Ioan Gruffudd daughter in news

[HelenaBellena]

Again this is in the news with him getting a restraining order. I always thought Alice was nuts but I've been reading that Ioan isn't as nice as he makes out. And those silly staged pics of him and his girlfriend.

Of course I’m serious. He’s fearful of what accusations his children may accuse him of and not having a witness to dispute them- I don’t blame the children for that though, their role model is a mother who verbally said she would do an ‘Amber Heard’ to him (in case you don’t believe that, she sent him actual emails where she threatened him that she would tell everyone he was abusive etc.). She also repeatedly asked this children during visitation if daddy was being weird or hurting them, entirely normal behaviour isn’t it?! 🙄

Of course when it came to court papers she thought better of lying and did a 180 and she testified he was a wonderful husband AND father (such a rational woman 🤔

That said, I’ll happily be schooled by you on the valid reasons you can suggest as to why he would want or feel he needs a chaperone for the visits? Unless of course you don’t have any but you think it’s fun to ridicule other posters (it’s not by the way, you look really foolish for doing so)

I have a lying narcissist in the family and Alice completely reminds me of her. She is a walking red flag. I am sure there is massive ongoing parental alienation going on here as part of that.

Not trying to protect Ioan as I have no idea one way or the other what he is like, but I know what it's like to live with a narcissist and it is grim, and you get accused of all sorts if you don't toe their line, give them praise, do what they want, etc. Just my totally uninformed opinion but he's probably been on the end of a lot of that, and the poor kids are getting totally messed up because of it.

They are dangerous and capable of incredible cruelty too aren’t they? The lengths that they are prepared to go to for a ‘win’ are psychotic, no one is sacred (including their children) since everyone is really just a pawn in a game which is why we live in a world where parents take the lives of their own children to punish the other parent. It’s heartbreaking.

You have just made up a whole story about Alice Evans when you have no idea if what you assume is correct. It just might be the case that the child just doesn’t want to have anything to do with her dad’s new girlfriend.

But there is evidence that she’s saying stuff like this to them, evidence about saying to the girls “does your dad ever do anything weird or creepy to you”. Evidence that she’s told the girls she doesn’t want to see them if they want to go to their dads. Evidence that she said she’d do an Amber Herd on him.

Yuck, how revolting!

Of course I’m serious. He’s fearful of what accusations his children may accuse him of and not having a witness to dispute them

Okay, but that’s not what you said. You said he was scared of his children. Which is not the same as him being scared of his children making an accusation against him.

I don’t really want to get into an argument over semantics, and I’m certainly not trying to ridicule you, but I’ve read posts here by people who genuinely believe that Ioan is a victim of abuse by his young daughters, so a poster believing that Ioan is scared of his children (not simply scared of his children making an accusation against him) isn’t outwith the realms of possibility.

That said, I’ll happily be schooled by you on the valid reasons you can suggest as to why he would want or feel he needs a chaperone for the visits?

Not wishing to school anyone, but my opinion on that is that the chaperone is over the top and I can understand why his daughters feel uncomfortable with it. It’s a barrier to helping them reconnect. It sends a clear message to his daughters that he doesn’t trust them.

Ella says she doesn’t like it. Ella says she doesn’t wish to meet Bianca. Ella also says her father doesn’t allow her to have her own thoughts or feelings. Seems Ioan has a real issue with listening to and taking his daughter’s feelings into consideration.

I think, as bad as Alice is, Ioan has created and continues to create his own barriers to having a relationship with his children.

These days you can’t coerce a 13 year old into doing anything. Especially not a 13 year old who is the daughter of Hollywood actors. I have met kids with that sort of pedigree. They are incredibly precocious and know their own minds.

Same here I hate what my dad did to us, not just to my mum.

Evans is far from a perfect victim but that doesn’t mean she isn’t a victim. The fact that he has given himself this status tells me everything I need to know about the cunt tThere are many abusive men who have accused their poor partners of behaviours they themselves were responsible for. And the courts believe them.

He just has to bat his long eyelashes and all the laydeez swoon! I don’t like him. Never have.

This is the first time I’ve read anything about him - I only know him in his Hornblower role. Typical, isn’t it - yet another actor who played a really decent character but who’s the polar opposite in real life (like Craig McLachlan playing Dr Blake). Arseholes.

He sounds an absolute dick.
Parental Alienation has been thoroughly debunked by credible psychologists, doesn't stop abusive men claiming it.

I truly hope he and his abusive gf aren't allowed anywhere near those girls.

Where did she learn to pour milk in someone's bed and throw food around the house?

More negativity against women who have been treated badly by men and dare I say their followers. There is so much negativity from women against women not believng what each other says. I despair. It irks me is the politest thing I can say

The DM article ‘exclusive’ was written by Alison Boshoff who is one of Alice’s good friends. And Alice and her inner circle are known to find threads like these and fill them with anti Ioan and pro Alice posts. This thread seems to have fallen victim too.

This whole sorry story has been played out by Alice in the media and through the courts. It has all been documented for public viewing and it makes for a distressing read. Alice has a restraining order against her. She has been posting continually on Twitter and Instagram. Those poor poor girls.

Why is it, when women are just reacting to whatever s- their husband has decided to dump upon them with anything other than a Stepford Wives smile, they’re mad or abusive or controlling or alienating the other parent (apparently the girls wouldn’t have noticed daddy’s not there because he’d rather be with his girlfriend unless mummy pointed it out). But the amount of gaslighting and control and manipulation and deceit it takes to keep an affair secret is apparently completely reasonable, and if we can’t quite convince ourselves of that well we can try to convince ourselves she must have deserved it. IG made his relationship public, and as many cheating husbands do, he expected his wife to “go quietly”. Why should she pretend that she’s happy? If he wants to play happy families in public, why can’t she play unhappy families? My mum pretended everything was fine in front of me when my dad left, which is the advice she was given, and I grew up to accept a lot of appalling treatment from men that left me feeling like s- just like she did. At the end of the day, she is the parent that never left - you can lie to kids as much as you want but they recognise that above everything else.

Have you actually read the evidence? It clearly shows Alice is a malignant narcissist who is emotionally abusive to Ioan and to their daughters. Fed up with people thinking only men can be abusive..

I honestly beg anyone who thinks Alice is the victim here to actually read the court documents and see the evidence of her behaviour. You can find them all on tattle if you have any trouble.

You mean the evidence from Ioan? Cause no divorcing husband has EVER made a counter-claim before…

Love that people call whatever the man says “evidence” though haha… really says it all

There are receipts of text conversations and it’s not pretty. Go read the documents.

Well it’s as good a level of anything she has said. You can get hung up on semantics if you want. However it’s stuff he’s said in court papers, not just on Twitter, etc. I’ve never had to give a statement to a court but I assume there’s some sort of onus on you to swear you’re telling the truth.

Obviously people do lie in court and if she denies it (which I don’t believe she has) then one of them is lying. But I believe when he accused her to a court of this behaviour she hasn’t defended herself…..which speaks volumes.

But yes if I’d been talking about a statement she had given to a court I would have termed it “evidence”, albeit her evidence

Absolutely spot on.

So far the only one who has a court order against anyone is Ioan Gruffudd against Alice Evans. A life long domestic violence order due to her PROVEN campaign of abuse against her former husband and his girlfriend.

This latest stunt ... hmmm - how many 13 year olds know how to engage their own lawyer.. ?? This has ALL the hallmarks of Alice Evans attempting to alienate him from his daughters.

A 13 year old, tips milk and oatmeal all over their fathers bed because his girlfriend of nearly two years is in HER OWN HOME ! and father is permitted by ANOTHER court order to do this. ?

The child should have had her phone removed and been sent to her room - not pandered to by the mother who is obviously the one who is really pursuing a 'court order' .

My husband left me for another woman when they were young. I was blindsided, heartbroken and completely debilitated for months. However - there is NO WAY I would bring my thoughts and feeling as a wife into the relationship they had with their father. As hard as it was to pack them off to 'happy families' EOW - I did it with a smile and a wave (and had a massive bitch fest with friends when they were gone. To me it was incredibly important they never had to feel 'disloyal' for enjoying time with Dad and new gf . (Or little miss plastic tits as we liked to call her in less charitable moments) it was hard. Sometimes worthy of an Oscar performance but worth every bit of it ..

23 years later Ex and LMPT have been married two decades. I have been remarried 17 years. Best of all we all get on - which has made it all so much better for all the children than this appalling shit show.

There is a very very clear - unhinged and abusive party in this appalling travesty . It is Alice Evans. .

She is skating on very very thin ice and is in serious danger of losing custody if she carries on. She needs to sort herself out. Get some serious psychological help.. and start keeping her feelings as an ex wife away from her kids.

Put some of those acting skills to use and plaster on a smile and give these kids permission to enjoy dads company with his partner without being made to feel bad or disloyal to mum for doing so.