Ioan Gruffudd daughter in news

[HelenaBellena]

Again this is in the news with him getting a restraining order. I always thought Alice was nuts but I've been reading that Ioan isn't as nice as he makes out. And those silly staged pics of him and his girlfriend.

She’s not abusive… I hate the idea wives are expected to “go quietly”. Can you imagine the amount of gaslighting, deceit, and manipulation that goes into concealing a secret relationship from your family? Or actually evicting your family from their home? Why would you be polite to someone who screwed you over that badly? Of course he’s “moved on” he was the one having the affair. And the suggestion it’s somehow the wife’s job to do a bit of positive PR for him with the kids? No. Manage your own relationship with your kids. If the restraining order is granted I’m sure you will all be condemning Ioan as an abuser and in no way suggesting it’s actually quite easy to get them in California & indicative of nothing…

Have you even read about some of the things she's said and done to her children? As in things that are evidenced, not hearsay. She is abusive. A malignant abusive narcissist.

Yes have read transcripts. It’s vile how she has spoken to them.

There is no evidence that he was having an affair. He left a toxic and abusive marriage.

Of course she doesn't have to take it quietly, but if doing what she does irreparably damages your children?

At the moment it is looking like the hate and desire for revenge is overriding everything, even her children's wellbeing.

How would you square your dad, the adult saving himself but not you, the child?

She (Ella) may never be able too. I don't know what else he could have done though.

It seems he has been fighting for custody ever since despite what A says.

I recognise a few of the names on this thread as "Jonny Depp fans" also.
Telling.

In what way is Ioan anything like Johnnny Depp? There was LOADS of evidence JD is a wrongun. Where is the evidence IG is? Have you seen the evidence on how Alice abused Ioan and her daughters?

The situations aren't even a little bit similar. If IG had behaved how AE did absolutely no one would even be hesitating about calling him abusive for one second.

There was LOADS of evidence JD is a wrongun.

Rubbish

Which trial were you watching @uonika

There was a thread under AIBU started by
a user called Lifeswhatyoumakeit73

Seems like many posters think it’s Alice herself (does fit in with her MO, starts out nicely but quickly descends into swearing at other users when she’s met with criticism of Alice and support is limited to one other poster)

It seems he has been fighting for custody ever since despite what A says.

That’s not quite true.

When he came home from his work trip with his new live in girlfriend Bianca, it took him almost a year to initiate contact/custody proceedings. He did however, manage to go to court for a restraining order against Alice. He also managed to go on multiple holidays with Bianca, photos of which were plastered all over her social media alongside comments of how happy they both were.

As soon as contact was ordered to begin by the court, he cancelled his first two sessions to go on yet another holiday with Bianca. He hadn’t seen his children in over a year.

I’m not going to dispute anything said about Alice, but Ioan is hardly in the running for Parent of the Year Award either.

I don't think that is accurate. He was seeing the children on a regular basis after the separation despite A making it all but impossible. I think that he did leave getting the courts involved too late because he wanted to try the softly softly approach to avoid the absolute toxicity that the whole situation has now decided into. So yes I do think he is guilty of not going in hard enough in the belief that it was the best option.

As for missing visitations, he has to take what work is offered him. Alice wants him to pay for everything.

Where does @tigger2022 say that abuse by women is ok?

I can’t wait for this case to be over.

And I can’t wait to see if what I suspect about IG proves to be true.

As for missing visitations, he has to take what work is offered him. Alice wants him to pay for everything.

He didn’t miss those visitations for work. He missed those visitations to go on holiday with Bianca. It was absolutely not a work trip.

But what exactly was he escaping from? He was hardly ever at home. Apart from her breakdown when he left, the only abuse he said he got from Alice was that she said he had baggy vag eyes. If he thinks that is abuse I hate to see how he would have coped if he’d been through what I and others survivors of do have been through.

it is disgusting to describe him as having to flee from violence the way that some of us had to flee. And many of us were so damaged by the abuse that we weren’t even thinking about falling into new relationships for years after. Abused women with kids would have been thinking first and foremost about how to get their kids out. Their first priority would not be chasing young skirt. Far from it.

I didn’t, just a bizarre straw man…

If that was the holiday to Wales to see his family, I think A was preventing visitation after visitation at this stage. Maybe he selfishly wanted a holiday, I expect he would have loved to take the girls.

I am sure he is not perfect but I think he has behaved with massive restraint.

@Shhhquirrel

I did not think Amber heard a likeable victim.
But
It was very very clear she’d been abused by Depp.

I know many people including men who have been angered by an ex but I don’t know any that have

fantasised about murdering their ex, setting her on fire & raping her deaf body.

“I’ll fuck her burnt corpse to make sure she’s dead”

I know there are many men can crudr language but I don’t know any who use the phrase “cum bucket”

“Cum guzzler”

“I hope she’s decomposing in the back of a trunk”

“Cunt”
“Whore”

“overused flappy fish market”

“I’ll make sure the fifty cen stripper hits the wall hard”

“I hope the slimy whore gets the gift of breath taken from her”

“The slippery whore I donated my jizz too”

“The worthless hooker is gonna get total
Global humiliation”

“ I head butted you in the fucking forehead”

This language is the VERY definition of violence and
misogynistic abuse.

Jonny Depp said all those things. Proven.

We live in a patriarchal society and the fact remains that

He wins, he’s a hero and vindicated
If he had lost he’s a victim of an unfair verdict, and will be supported

If she won she’s a hysterical liar and abuser
When she lost she’s a hysterical liar and abuser

Now tell me again how men are silenced and not believed

Fucking bullshit.

The court documents in this IG case are his words. He didn't see his kids but had time to go on holiday with the new bird.

His texts prioritising his gf over his disturbed 13 year old are telling.

Alice evans seems like a broken angry woman pushed to her limit to me. Yes even to the point of craziness.
If he really thought her so bad he should have not left his kids with her.
Frankly I don't believe a word of his shit.

I do also think being deceived to that extent does things to you. So many changes in such a short period of time, all against her will. He expected her to just vanish after she was dismissed.

It was the holiday to Australia with Bianca. And no one was preventing visitation. In fact, the court had just awarded him visitation to begin immediately. He hadn’t seen the girls in over a year at that point. But he cancelled the first two sessions of contact with the girls to go to Australia with Bianca.

You can try and make that Alice’s fault somehow, but that was down to Ioan. That was solely his decision.

I am sure that he has behaved with some selfishness. It pales into insignificance compared to the damage that she has inflicted on those poor girls.

Why would any parent choose not to see their child for an entire year?

I agree about Johnny Depp, all blind items say he's an alcoholic and a nasty one at that yet Amber Heard is slated

I’m not sure it does pale into insignificance, actually. Certainly not from the perspective of his daughters.

Both parents have caused the children pain and distress. Both of them are selfish and not putting the needs of the children first.

It really doesn’t matter who the bigger culprit is, neither of their parents are prioritising them.

This is an arranged pap walk of Ioan and Bianca the day after the incident with Ella. Do you honestly think seeing this is in Ella’s best interests? Do you honestly think this is an acceptable response to putting a child in a situation which she has repeatedly said she didn’t want to be in, and which Ioan knew had a high risk of ending badly?

What a fucking shit show.

I mean the one where he joked about burning her and fucking her corpse, that was a pretty dead giveaway no?

All the abuse in this case has come from Alice.