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Ioan Gruffudd daughter in news

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HelenaBellena · 08/06/2023 06:43

Again this is in the news with him getting a restraining order. I always thought Alice was nuts but I've been reading that Ioan isn't as nice as he makes out. And those silly staged pics of him and his girlfriend.

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SkyandSurf · 08/06/2023 14:47

aSofaNearYou · 08/06/2023 14:36

@Malificent1 I'd question how blindsided they could have been given she lives with him. Them saying they don't want to meet her doesn't necessarily mean he agreed and said she wouldn't be there, in her house.

But regardless, I don't think her reaction, throwing food etc is a standard or remotely appropriate reaction to being blindsided by her being there.

It's the reaction of a child who is traumatised and confused, and regressing in her behaviour.

It's not the child's fault at all, she's clearly in a lot of distress.

tigger2022 · 08/06/2023 14:51

I knew A very distantly & Ioan really screwed her over. It’s horrible to suddenly realise your life is not what you thought it was, I can relate. The media coverage has been so misogynistic, portraying her as crazy. And he handled it all so badly.

They are living in the US as well, which is where people seem to use legal means to solve all their interpersonal problems.

Btw the concept of “parental alienation” is incredibly sketchy, and seems to be a way of abusive fathers using the children to punish mothers:
https://amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/jun/12/parental-alienation-and-the-unregulated-experts-shattering-childrens-lives
and
https://www.propublica.org/article/family-reunification-camps-kids-allege-more-abuse

aSofaNearYou · 08/06/2023 14:52

*It's the reaction of a child who is traumatised and confused, and regressing in her behaviour.

It's not the child's fault at all, she's clearly in a lot of distress.*

I'm not saying it's her fault. I'm saying her behaviour mirrors her mother's and it sounds way beyond a normal reaction to parental separation.

tigger2022 · 08/06/2023 14:56

Catsmere · 08/06/2023 12:57

My arsehole father left when I was nine to be with his latest affair. My mother never “poisoned” me against him, I figured out for myself he was a despicable jerk.

Exactly. I can still remember at age 11 being instructed to hug the person my dad was having an affair with and I honestly still feel sick thinking about her hands on me now. At the age of 13 a kid knows right and wrong. The fact a teenager (a teenager!!) is not jumping for joy and doing cartwheels because daddy has moved out and gone to live with a random woman in Australia is not because her mum has told her to be upset!

Malificent1 · 08/06/2023 14:56

aSofaNearYou · 08/06/2023 14:36

@Malificent1 I'd question how blindsided they could have been given she lives with him. Them saying they don't want to meet her doesn't necessarily mean he agreed and said she wouldn't be there, in her house.

But regardless, I don't think her reaction, throwing food etc is a standard or remotely appropriate reaction to being blindsided by her being there.

She says in her application for the restraining order that they weren’t expecting her to be there. And her behaviour is that of an extremely damaged child. Don’t blame the victim.

aSofaNearYou · 08/06/2023 15:02

She says in her application for the restraining order that they weren’t expecting her to be there. And her behaviour is that of an extremely damaged child. Don’t blame the victim.

Or you could not tell me what to do? I'm not blaming her. I'm blaming the people that "damaged" her and in my opinion, it comes across like witnessing her mum's reaction to the separation and taking cues from that has had a more profoundly negative affect than a run of the mill separation, new girlfriend situation.

And I don't think she comes across as a reliable narrator of events at all, understandably.

boobot1 · 08/06/2023 15:03

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 06:58

Well I can’t imagine she sits at home saying nice things about him and Bianca to the kids. So if she’s constantly slagging the pair of them off and possibly telling them stuff like if they don’t want to be there kick off and run away then I’d agree she has some culpability. She does come across as unhinged and that has affected how the daughters view their dad.

I agree, I think Alice is mad as a hatter. What he he did was very wrong but honestly I think she is deranged.

StormShadow · 08/06/2023 15:04

QueenieMe · 08/06/2023 11:17

^ This. In the court application – which is a public record, to all those citing privacy infringement – the DD13 says she told her dad she didn't want to meet B, but he forced the issue during an overnight stay knowing full well she couldn't call her mum to collect her because A isn't allowed near him. That's shitty behaviour from him and the fact B caught her in the door and bruised her would've made me go to the police as well. Plus the nanny and friend's dad who picked them up are corroborating her story and are prepared to appear in court.

Yeah, that's a twat thing to do. Alice is an abuser, doesn't mean the person she abused treats his DC well.

QueenieMe · 08/06/2023 15:10

BlondeFool · 08/06/2023 13:51

This.

I find it baffling he's skint and 'unemployed'. He's worked for years. Very dodgy. I bet he gets a big job once the financial settlement is confirmed 🙄

Same. He might've only had one gig last year - the risible The Reunion - but he's currently filming Bad Boys 4 with Will Smith.

Gowlett · 08/06/2023 15:14

I think Bianca will regret the day she ever met him. It’s their actions that started all of this. For all of the LTB on MN, not that many actually side with Alice. 100% I believe her. Is she a damaged person? Yes. So are the kids now. But it’s down to Ioan.

diddl · 08/06/2023 15:17

I find it baffling he's skint and 'unemployed'. He's worked for years. Very dodgy.

Perhaps depends how much money is tied up in the family home & has been spent on sustaining a certain lifestyle?

Did he ever afford to live alone after leaving?

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 08/06/2023 15:24

diddl · 08/06/2023 15:17

I find it baffling he's skint and 'unemployed'. He's worked for years. Very dodgy.

Perhaps depends how much money is tied up in the family home & has been spent on sustaining a certain lifestyle?

Did he ever afford to live alone after leaving?

If think I remember an article from the time where he blamed Alice for this. Said her comments on their relationship and since had damaged his rep so no one would hire him so it was her own fault he had to kick them out the house and pull kids out of school.

Whole thing is just a mess and no one is coming out unscathed. They're both behaving horrifically surrounding each other and the kids.

MiddleAgedAndExhausted · 08/06/2023 15:30

Some of this reminds me of my DDs and their dad. He has remarried and from when he first met his now wife, he was desperate for her to be part of the kids lives. He gave them no time to accept things or for a relationship to naturally develop between her and the kids. He doesn't see them unless she is there.
Ioan Gruffud seemed to move on very quickly, if not before his marriage ended. Why wouldn't he wait until the kids were ready and comfortable to meet his new gf?! I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

HelenaBellena · 08/06/2023 15:38

This is the thing, I think the media coverage has been very misogynistic and painted her as awful. Maybe she is, but he's no saint

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diddl · 08/06/2023 15:54

Said her comments on their relationship and since had damaged his rep so no one would hire him

Hmm!

I mean it's possible, but then also also possible that work would dry up & the house & school fees would no longer be affordable?

garlicandsapphires · 08/06/2023 16:30

I feel desperately sorry for the children, and I think Alice has serious MH issues. This is based on her own words and actions on Twitter and Instagram. I don’t know either of them but feel strongly that she has been abusive.

Stalkedbyzombies · 08/06/2023 16:31

It is possible to be abused and abusive at the same time.

darisdet · 08/06/2023 16:38

HelenaBellena · 08/06/2023 15:38

This is the thing, I think the media coverage has been very misogynistic and painted her as awful. Maybe she is, but he's no saint

They have. All those comments mocking Alice's appearance, it's just so unnecessary.

The poor girls caught in the middle of it. Badly done to have introduced the girlfriend in that way, on their overnight stay.

MarciaMolerat · 08/06/2023 16:54

She's been planning this since he left...
More than 2 years of this in the poor kids ear 😔

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JoeyRamonesHair · 08/06/2023 17:07

The journalist writing all these exclusives is a friend of Alice's. Until yesterday, a picture of them drinking wine together was on her Instagram (now removed).

From the sound of the court evidence, Alice undermined her husband for a good while before he decided to leave. If the name calling etc was towards a woman, everyone on here would be saying LTB - he's an emotional abuser. It has been 2+ years since the marriage ended, surely enough time for everyone to calm down a bit and think of the kids.

midsomermurderess · 08/06/2023 17:11

I don’t think anyone should be surprised that Ioan Gruffudd is not an entirely reliable narrator. Of course he’s been presenting himself in the best possible light through all this. Who wouldn’t?

Lovethatforyou · 08/06/2023 17:12

I follow both on social media, have followed the case, read all the court docs. Seen evidence of Alice’s many sock accounts.

IMO Ioan Gruffudd was a bloody saint to stay in the marriage as long as he did. He is a clear victim of domestic abuse - physical but mainly emotional. Once he got the courage to leave, whether that decision involved his current partner or not, Alice has been on the warpath since. She’s a very dangerous woman. She is also the common denominator in her failed relationships with her family, Ioan’s family, former friends and she now has a deserved five year restraining order against her.

Read the court documents, read the financial paperwork THEN form an opinion.

From what I see, IG is someone who escaped an abuser (who still continues to abuse him constantly and his partner) is fighting for his children and has been doing everything right - paying for everything, got them into therapy, meeting them on neutral ground, making sure they get home safely when they’ve walked out of visitation etc…

Also he has been with his partner for over 2 years… they live together.

The misconceptions on here are astounding and sickening.

The girls AND Ioan are the victims in this mess. And Bianca to an extent. However, she has the choice to leave it all behind her.

Also, if Ioan was the woman and Alice the man in all of this, it would be perceived very differently.

NotSoBigCrocodile · 08/06/2023 17:32

Also, if Ioan was the woman and Alice the man in all of this, it would be perceived very differently.

That is bullshit.

If a woman:

• left the family home, citing abuse, but leaving the children behind
• leaves the children with her abusive, drunken ex to go to work on another continent for a few months
• announces a new partner on social media whilst on that work trip
• brings said partner back from work trip to immediately move in with them
• doesn’t pursue contact with the children via the courts for an entire year, but manages to (1) go to court for a restraining order and (2) manages to go on multiple holidays with their new partner (which is plastered all over their partner’s social media)
• when they finally decide to seek contact, cancelled the first two contact sessions to go on holiday with their partner
• despite the children not wishing to meet the new partner, ignores their wishes and forces them into a volatile situation with new partner

If a woman did all of that, she would be crucified.

Stalkedbyzombies · 08/06/2023 17:32

But she is the parent whom the girls feel comfortable to live with and be with full-time even if she was a bad spouse to IG. I think that they are both prone to OTT behaviour but he knows how to drive her up the wall without making a lot of noise whereas she is all exaggerated emotion, probably not helped by being jilted for a younger woman and being in peri.

Merlin69 · 08/06/2023 17:37

I think the most important thing for Alice is how others perceive her and in this instance (where the separation/divorce is concerned), the majority of the public don’t support or even like her if the comments across multiple sites are anything to go by.

She hasn’t achieved what she so badly craves (to get the public to see her as the wronged party) and it’s at the point where many people even excuse the possibility of Ioan having an affair because they think she’s that vile that he was right to leave in ANY circumstance.

The public opinion of Alice as a parent isn’t much more favourable either (whichever opinion you hold for how/why this teenager is reacting).
In the period that Alice has claimed to be the sole parent/biggest parental influence, we have seen her daughter commit theft, computer hacking and now she has damaged property.

You could excuse these criminal acts because of the upset this teenager has through her parents divorcing, but you could alternatively say the latest behaviour is ‘bratty’ and is a consequence of Alice failing to instil boundaries and morality in her child (Ioan shares that responsibility too but if he is barely seeing the children than Alice can’t blame him if she claims the badge of raising her children alone).

The other reason could be that the daughter is doing it because of parental alienation and will do anything to please her mum for reasons unknown ;which could be fear and/or abuse from Alice if she doesn’t.

At the end of the day we don’t know why the daughter did what she did but it’s evident that the current influences she has in her life are negatively influencing her since she’s committed three crimes now.

Alice can’t claim to be the majority sole parent/influence (which is true since Alice said she doesn’t go to school and rarely spends any length of time with her dad) whilst pretending that she’s not at any fault for how her daughter is behaving (She can’t have her cake and eat it).

The daughter aside, Alice should be absolutely disgusted with herself that an independent judge has defined her as an abuser/someone who poses abusive risk to the father of her children (a label she didn’t even bother to contest in court).

As a result of Alice’s abusive behaviour during the separation (judge’s opinion), her daughter’s reputation and claims are now in question. Alice doesn’t seem to feel bad or take any responsibility whatsoever for how her behaviour has consequences for her child (as a parent, even if thought it was unfair, I would be sickened if my actions led to a negative opinion of my child). Through her brother and friends online, Alice is making it clear that she feels no guilt for opinion of her daughter and it’s a ‘them’ problem rather than a ‘her’ problem. That detachment from her daughter’s feeling comes across highly narcissistic sadly, her daughter deserves more.

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