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Magnoliainbloom · 07/06/2023 22:01

@Polew just wondered why you are so invested in the Fogles? You seem to know a lot about them, their companies etc. It’s a little creepy.

ApiratesaysYarrr · 07/06/2023 22:12

Polew · 07/06/2023 21:58

I'm too used to hearing storys of over worked doctors/nhs staff, I think!

Always suprised when they dont fit the bill

Also, many people may not realise that "part-time" GPs may be doing almost as much work as most full time workers. For example a GP may work "only" 3 days per week, but those days are 12 hour days, so is working 36hrs/week - pretty close to FT hours.

Polew · 07/06/2023 23:49

Magnoliainbloom · 07/06/2023 22:01

@Polew just wondered why you are so invested in the Fogles? You seem to know a lot about them, their companies etc. It’s a little creepy.

Read back the original post this thread is about the house photos & pricing

All the infomation I've gotten about them is via interviews they've done & googling things posted here on this thread 😄

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Moonandstarz · 07/06/2023 23:52

@Magnoliainbloom in fairness all information can be got by quick google, he's a tv personality & gives loads of interviews.

SummerLovingDays · 08/06/2023 03:29

The government really needs to start put rent caps in place in London.

Doingmybest12 · 08/06/2023 05:55

I like it,it looks interesting and well loved. The amount of rent in staggering. I would remove the umbrellas and mix up the books.

Moonandstarz · 08/06/2023 08:14

@Doingmybest12 i love the house too but 26k a month.. That's an annual salary for many many people in the UK..

Madcats · 08/06/2023 09:14

DH and I are both hoarders (think double-depth bookshelves), but I think even we would struggle to live with all that stuff/pattern.

I might re-organise my travel guides to colour-coordinate them, though!

Do people really pay £26k/month rent?

I am guessing that dogs and kids soon trash any grass in a shady garden.

Polew · 08/06/2023 10:25

SummerLovingDays · 08/06/2023 03:29

The government really needs to start put rent caps in place in London.

It is fundamentally a small/medium family home Isn't it.

I was suprised upthread that some people thought the oligarchy / uber wealthy would be interested in the place regardless of how close it is to london its not giving aspirational vibes is it ?

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Polew · 08/06/2023 10:28

Madcats · 08/06/2023 09:14

DH and I are both hoarders (think double-depth bookshelves), but I think even we would struggle to live with all that stuff/pattern.

I might re-organise my travel guides to colour-coordinate them, though!

Do people really pay £26k/month rent?

I am guessing that dogs and kids soon trash any grass in a shady garden.

Yh. I was suprised how strong the feelings were towards the grass to be honest but just guess its more fogles 'character' of being very different to astro-turf london living

& yh the £26k price was three quarters+ half the shock I was having

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Polew · 08/06/2023 10:32

Moonandstarz · 07/06/2023 23:52

@Magnoliainbloom in fairness all information can be got by quick google, he's a tv personality & gives loads of interviews.

😁 exactly. Though I feel like I've learnt more about them from this thread & looking up old interviews then from the original house ad

As for the anual salary needed to afford it 😰 I just can't imagine any 'stereotypical' wealthy people (bar celebs/influencers/TV company's) who would be able to justify it

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Clymene · 08/06/2023 10:55

This is from his wiki bio:

Fogle is the UN Patron of the Wilderness, a role that sees him highlight the pressure and impact on the earth's wildest corners. His aim is to focus more attention on the conservation cause and inspire greater global action to ensure our actions do not damage the environment.[24]
He is the President of the Campaign for National Parks.[25] Fogle is also: an ambassador for the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and Tusk; a supporter of the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme, and Hearing Dogs for Deaf People. He is a fellow of the Royal Geographical Society.[26] He is also a patron for the British Hedgehog Preservation Society,

Plastic grass is environmentally awful. It's terrible for wildlife and the soil. The fact that Fogle's back garden is covered in the stuff just says to me that he's a performative nimby about the environment.

TheMurderousGoose · 08/06/2023 11:05

I don't know why but the whole 'inheriting a big wodge of cash from an elderly colleague' is giving me Patricia Highsmith vibes. I'm sure it was all very wholesome!

Moonandstarz · 08/06/2023 11:09

I wonder if Marina is a mumsnetter & might discreetly put us out of our misery about their grass🤔

Polew · 08/06/2023 11:40

Clymene · 08/06/2023 10:55

This is from his wiki bio:

Fogle is the UN Patron of the Wilderness, a role that sees him highlight the pressure and impact on the earth's wildest corners. His aim is to focus more attention on the conservation cause and inspire greater global action to ensure our actions do not damage the environment.[24]
He is the President of the Campaign for National Parks.[25] Fogle is also: an ambassador for the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and Tusk; a supporter of the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme, and Hearing Dogs for Deaf People. He is a fellow of the Royal Geographical Society.[26] He is also a patron for the British Hedgehog Preservation Society,

Plastic grass is environmentally awful. It's terrible for wildlife and the soil. The fact that Fogle's back garden is covered in the stuff just says to me that he's a performative nimby about the environment.

I get what your saying but I'm imagining his wife was the one left in charge of maintaining, mowing ect. The back garden (with the kids & pets) due to his travel work & probably didn't have a leg to stand on trying to stop it from happening unless he was going to keep on top of it 🤔

Maybe they just preferred the look of it though ?

He apparently does have quite the reputation as being a bit of celebrity eco-warrior so was probably going to be called out on it quite quickly

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Polew · 08/06/2023 11:42

Moonandstarz · 08/06/2023 11:09

I wonder if Marina is a mumsnetter & might discreetly put us out of our misery about their grass🤔

It says in the link it's fake. Somebody already read through it when it was being commented on

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Clymene · 08/06/2023 11:44

Preferring the look of it is not an adequate reason if you're making a living out of being an environmentalist @Polew

Polew · 08/06/2023 11:47

Clymene · 08/06/2023 11:44

Preferring the look of it is not an adequate reason if you're making a living out of being an environmentalist @Polew

100% I don't think he's ever been called out for it (outside of the discovery of it on this thread) because people just assumed he didnt/wouldn't have it

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Polew · 08/06/2023 11:49

Clymene · 08/06/2023 11:44

Preferring the look of it is not an adequate reason if you're making a living out of being an environmentalist @Polew

*Given his career/history as a eco promotor

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Florissante · 08/06/2023 12:34

Moonandstarz · 07/06/2023 18:18

I think it's quite aristo umc style.. I'd say Ben & Marina are quite umc especially with a house to rent out at 26k a month...

No, it's really not.

I've lived in genuine aristo style houses. The style there is organic and has evolved over time. It is comprised of furniture that was inherited and gifted and picked up somewhere. The rugs are often worn in places. There are proper paintings - generally ancestral portraits, paintings of dogs and horses and landscapes. Items are worn by the patina of hundreds of years and may be a bit dusty but are clearly valuable.

The Fogles' house is expensively decorated but has no personal style or soul. It is clearly a house where the interior designer aimed for the old money aristo style looked but failed because this can't be bought. (Remember the insult about Michael Heseltine: He is a man who buys his own furniture.)

And that odd room where he keeps his mementoes from his travels would appeal only to those who have a fetish for dressing up as Paddington Bear. It is the television presenter's version of a big game hunter's trophy room.

I suspect that Fogle is renting out his house at such an outrageous price (which I'm sure is negotiable) because he: has tremendous outgoings, an unpredictable income, no sizeable family inheritance to count on, is hoping to rent it short-term to film companies and magazines for interior shots and is aiming at the foreign market (particularly the Russians and Far Easterners) who want to experience an Olde Worlde Upper Class English environment. I wouldn't be surprised if Fogle is hoping his status as a relatively minor celebrity will help sell this to the foreign market. He might even throw in a meet-and-greet as a sweetener.

Polew · 08/06/2023 13:55

Florissante · 08/06/2023 12:34

No, it's really not.

I've lived in genuine aristo style houses. The style there is organic and has evolved over time. It is comprised of furniture that was inherited and gifted and picked up somewhere. The rugs are often worn in places. There are proper paintings - generally ancestral portraits, paintings of dogs and horses and landscapes. Items are worn by the patina of hundreds of years and may be a bit dusty but are clearly valuable.

The Fogles' house is expensively decorated but has no personal style or soul. It is clearly a house where the interior designer aimed for the old money aristo style looked but failed because this can't be bought. (Remember the insult about Michael Heseltine: He is a man who buys his own furniture.)

And that odd room where he keeps his mementoes from his travels would appeal only to those who have a fetish for dressing up as Paddington Bear. It is the television presenter's version of a big game hunter's trophy room.

I suspect that Fogle is renting out his house at such an outrageous price (which I'm sure is negotiable) because he: has tremendous outgoings, an unpredictable income, no sizeable family inheritance to count on, is hoping to rent it short-term to film companies and magazines for interior shots and is aiming at the foreign market (particularly the Russians and Far Easterners) who want to experience an Olde Worlde Upper Class English environment. I wouldn't be surprised if Fogle is hoping his status as a relatively minor celebrity will help sell this to the foreign market. He might even throw in a meet-and-greet as a sweetener.

is hoping to rent it short-term to film companies and magazines for interior shots and is aiming at the foreign market (particularly the Russians and Far Easterners)

this was my first thought (though it's actually available as a long-term rental = television series? ) * *

How would they clear it out if somebody wanted unfurnished but theres a wall colour that isn't simple to just patch & sand/ how could they 'leave it furnished by discussion' when they dont seem to own any professional or homely furniture (let's face it 90% of what this place is is wall art/holiday moments & colour schemes not furniture suites & storage units)

I'm sure in that price range negotiations are verry verry common too but I doubt they need the money (more then covering the bills/insurance)
Theyre alot wealthier then some on here seem to think & have 'upgraded' to a country home'

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explainthistomeplease · 08/06/2023 14:37

It looks a bit professionally curated tbh. Rather than a real haphazard collection of actual finds

AIBUpossibly · 08/06/2023 17:11

It's got a whiff of Oka about it Viscountess Astor ( mother of Samantha Cameron) about it.
Wooden ducks on the table, lamps with patterned shades and painted tin bases.

Madcats · 08/06/2023 17:14

I'm supposed to be tidying up. Instead I've embarked on a colour coordinated travel-book bookshelf. It does look rather good (think of huge boxes of well used coloured pencils). It's brought back some lovely memories.

Mirabai · 08/06/2023 17:20

Gotta love MN for its myths about umc life. @Florissante

They could have got a mad interior designer to indulge their whims but, while they would have had an architect for the structural work and a kitchen designer, I think the rest is quite possibly their own quirky, eclectic taste.