Two dogs shot in London by police

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I’m usually very empathetic and recently even posted on an animal testing post but I just can’t find any compassion in my heart for out of control and dangerous animals at the moment, it’s just getting ridiculous. I obviously feel for the owner who I hope gets some kind of mental support/ counselling.

It’s so confusing as I’m usually so compassionate, I guess having a small child and the number of dog attacks does something to your brain? I hate walking past Bullies with my baby in the pram. Even normal dogs I’m starting to get very hesitant about. For context I usually cry if I step on a silver worm in the bathroom so this is a very strange reaction for me.

Interested to hear what other dog owning/ non dog owning people think. Also the government are going to have to step in at some point right?

How so? I'm a responsible owner. My dogs are trained, exercised, kept on lead, fed well. Taught not to approach others, either human or animal.

My eldest dog is 9, youngest 12 months. They all still receive regular training.

Incidentally - in case anyone picks up on me owning one of each sex. The bitch was spayed, the dog castrated. But he still feels she's his....

genuine question - why keep those dogs? Are there not other, safer and more straightforward dogs you could have bought?

Maybe the video will help show the situation https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22284777/woman-mauled-dog-attack-east-london-euthanised-police/. (The dogs being shot isn’t shown)

I live near there, and it’s also near the area where a dog recently attacked a police horse. So the police will rightly be on high alert for this sort of thing.

No, you’re not a responsible owner, because you’re keeping a dangerous breed of dog that should be banned.

All of them need rounding up and PTS, then we can reset by banning the breed.

I’m a lifelong dog lover but things have been getting really out of hand recently. A woman’s little dog was killed in my village this week by a 50kg mastiff cross and a smaller similar type. I see two teenage girls walking them off lead regularly around here. The teenage girl blamed the other woman for having her dog off lead and just left the scene. What with that kind of thing and professional dog walkers not having control over their groups, dog walking is not the stress reliever it used to be.

Their loving nature, athleticism and fact they are not working dogs met my requirements.

To be honest, if he had been shot too, it would have been a result.

I'm not always the biggest fan of the police. But if you are thick enough to wander the streets with a lethal weapon - be it a gun a sword or a dog - then I can never applaud the police enough for protecting us.

My dogs are not on the dangerous dogs list. You are projecting your fear on my dogs. Not all dogs are the same, or act the same. Like not all humans are the same, or act so.

What you're proposing is genocide of a certain breed of dog because of your fear.

They attacked a woman, they were out of control. Why are the police always criticised by press/some/many, no matter what they do? The owner should be prosecuted.

Sure....

I can't my head around why people think these dogs are good looking (not the pp, just people in general). They are literally the ugliest dogs around and, for good reason evolutionarily, they are absolutely not 'cute'. Their physical appearance just screams 'keep away from me'. When I was a child, my neighbours had an EBT and you just knew to avoid it. It went on the rampage one day killing some pet rabbits and my father had to force then to put it to sleep given the number of young children in the area.

People go on about bully breeds - in my line of work I see the reports of dog bites particularly on children and strangers unknown to the dog - the majority of dogs who bite are collies and French bulldogs. Staffies are some of the softest dogs you can get.

They were out of control and mauled a woman and therefore had to be destroyed. As harsh as it is. People are always the priority. There are some dreadfully irresponsible dog owners out there and we hear so many tragic stories of children and others being mauled with devastating consequences.

I was sat at the park yesterday watching my children play when a dog (no idea of breed - looked expensive mongrol poodle cross type) came bounding over to me and jumped up at me. I pushed him down and he did it 2 more times before the owner caught up with him. He just said 'he's a bit over friendly'. No, he's out of your control! No more harm done than muddy paw prints on my leggings but I was pissed off at his attitude. He had two young children with him and once more let the dog off the lead around the park as he seemed incapable of mango g small children and a dog. I did say to him we were leaving because he had no control over his dog and he just stared at me with a blank look. No apology, no attempt to gain control of the situation.

Professionally, I've seen horrific injuries to children from dog bites from 'over friendly' dogs or the 'softest' family pet.

My youngest was terrified of dogs for years after ex MIL let her under walked and overly daft Labrador jump up at him when he was a toddler and knock him over. I'd nipped to the loo and ex H was meant to be supervising but he was as daft as the dog. Ex MIL said 'she was just saying hello'. We hardly visited again after that (not just due to the dog). My youngest would physically shake if he saw one in the street. It took years to build his confidence up.

Also through my job I see households who have these aggressive powerful dogs to create fear amongst their communities, to enforce drug debts and to give the owner status of being untouchable and intimidate people.

In this case the Met have absolutely done the right thing and I hope the owner is fully prosecuted and punished.

Yeah but a collie or French bulldog isn’t likely to kill the person it attacks is it?

I’ve seen some really, really nasty injuries from both. A French bulldog is quite capable of doing serious damage to a child particularly and collies can be downright vicious. Can’t actually remember the last time I saw a report of a bully breed biting and most have been nips or small puncture wounds.

All dogs can cause damage to a child … Christ a cat could cause damage to a child!

But if a frenchie attacked a child it’s likely to cause nasty injury. If a bully attacks a child … well you only need to look at the dog fatality list by breed to see the results

You can play bingo with this comment on every single dog related thread. Why some people want to play down how dangerous these dogs can be is deeply questionable. The amount of damage these dogs can do is in a different league.

I think certain breeds should be on a register so the owners could be traced (even on a local basis by process of elimination).
I was attacked in my early 20’s by a boxer (dog, not person!). He lived in a tiny flat and saw the chance to run free so did, but I was in the way. Had 2 puncture wounds and was in shock. I spoke to the Police, but was adamant that I didn’t want the dog put down, I wanted the owners to be given a very stern warning that they were very lucky it wasn’t a child that it attacked.
I have a dog but she is always on a lead (not a danger about from licking someone to death). There are a few dogs near me that look like they would kill you, but luckily, they are always on a lead. If they are managed properly, then it’s not too bad, but the second there’s a moment of doubt, then they should be destroyed. I think the Police did what they are trained to do.

Isn’t this what happens with dangerous dogs that maul people? They get put down

Obviously the scene was dramatic as the man was yelling and resisting but I did think that the outcome was always pts after an attack

I think the thing to consider is it isn’t the breed that dictates whether a dog will attack or not. It’s the upbringing. People who own frenchies, collies, etc as family pets because they’re cute and don’t consider the implication of having any dog around small, unpredictable children (or anyone for that matter) and then don’t train them properly because it’s just a Frenchie or just a collie act surprised when they bite. On the whole people who own staffies, bully breeds, German shepherds etc are aware of a dog’s capabilities and put in the necessary leg work. It’s more about the type of owner a breed attracts than the breed itself. I stand by what I said and I’d sooner have my child around a staffy than a frenchie

I just can't get past the silver worm or silver fish or whatever in the bathroom. Why would there be anything like that in your bathroom?

I thought that was the premise behind microchipping? I mean surely if they wanted to they could make a register of all dog owners.

And they should be PTS under those circumstances.