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My celebrity boss is a lunatic I'm losing the plot

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Niceseasidetown · 01/05/2023 10:59

My boss is a celebrity in our industry. Think: 100s of 1000s of social media followers, his own podcast...and all the ego that goes with that.

He is also rude (telling people their ideas are fucking shit), a huge micromanager and a bully. Everyone at work says this, not just me. His adoring fans don't see this side of him.

When I took the job he wasn't my boss. He fired my boss publicly saying he wasn't up to the job and now I have to work much more closely with the celebrity boss. My stress and anxiety are through the roof. I am criticised for everything and publicly. Literally not one thing is right (even obvious achievements). I'm mocked and ridiculed. I'm very experienced and well paid and in my 40s. I'm good at my job.

I'm obviously looking for a new job.

Spoke to HR who just sighed and said he is like that. He owns the company.

How do I cope. I feel on the edge of a breakdown. I also have to manage a team who he undermines me in front of.

Literally every hour is miserable and terrifying.

I can't do anything legally or practically. I need emotional coping tips because I am a wreck. I worry what this is doing to my physical as well as mental health.

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AdamRyan · 02/05/2023 14:59

Niceseasidetown · 02/05/2023 14:42

Can I ask you guys though...could I find him so hard because I have an ego problem? He IS the multi-millionaire...do I have an attitude problem?

In general narcissists and psychopaths are over-represented in CEO level so him being a successful multimillionaire is no indicator of him being well adjusted and easy to work with

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackmccullough/2019/12/09/the-psychopathic-ceo/?sh=53b22e04791e

The Psychopathic CEO

When it comes to the corporate world, non-violent, corporate psychopaths are not running from the law, but instead, rushing to the executive suite.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackmccullough/2019/12/09/the-psychopathic-ceo?sh=53b22e04791e

singledadstu · 02/05/2023 17:53

If he’s as celebrity as it seems … contact sky news or bbc , seems to be their thing at the moment to out the bullying bosses .

LouLou198 · 02/05/2023 17:53

I probably would have put up with shit like this in my 20's, but definitely not in my 40's! Sounds horrendous op, plan your exit. In the meantime have a look at "quiet quitting".

MustWeDoThis · 02/05/2023 17:55

Niceseasidetown · 01/05/2023 10:59

My boss is a celebrity in our industry. Think: 100s of 1000s of social media followers, his own podcast...and all the ego that goes with that.

He is also rude (telling people their ideas are fucking shit), a huge micromanager and a bully. Everyone at work says this, not just me. His adoring fans don't see this side of him.

When I took the job he wasn't my boss. He fired my boss publicly saying he wasn't up to the job and now I have to work much more closely with the celebrity boss. My stress and anxiety are through the roof. I am criticised for everything and publicly. Literally not one thing is right (even obvious achievements). I'm mocked and ridiculed. I'm very experienced and well paid and in my 40s. I'm good at my job.

I'm obviously looking for a new job.

Spoke to HR who just sighed and said he is like that. He owns the company.

How do I cope. I feel on the edge of a breakdown. I also have to manage a team who he undermines me in front of.

Literally every hour is miserable and terrifying.

I can't do anything legally or practically. I need emotional coping tips because I am a wreck. I worry what this is doing to my physical as well as mental health.

As someone who works for the DWP, I have the following advice for you:

Refer yourself to occupational health and get to your GP for mental health help -instantly-.

Get a Union and report the behaviour to them

100% and most importantly - Report them to ACAS and the Ombudsmen. They might be famous, but they aren't exempt from the law. Get your local constituency involved, too.

Goodluck. Kick him where it hurts.

Mammajay · 02/05/2023 18:01

Sounds like Elon Musk. When I was in a bad work situation I used to write down what had happened and what was said. Very therapeutic. Good luck

Henrietta70 · 02/05/2023 18:01

Have set date written down of when you will leave, so every day you are counting down.

Record everything.

Remember Karma.

Revenge is a dish best served chilled, so wait to spill any sordid secrets, so as not to be linked to you.

You will get through this.
x

Sorrynotsorry22 · 02/05/2023 18:05

Put all your annual.leave in with minimal gaps as possible- failing that go long term sick and use some crefit- also mention to you next employer that you job made it ill and was untenable
The out the horrid boss anonymously !!

FantasticButtocks · 02/05/2023 18:05

Niceseasidetown · 02/05/2023 14:42

Can I ask you guys though...could I find him so hard because I have an ego problem? He IS the multi-millionaire...do I have an attitude problem?

You have a problem if you actually believe deep down that he is superior to you, just because he's a millionaire. Or for any other reason.

Behaving in the way he does is not a quality, it's a flaw in his character.

His lack of respect for others makes him inferior, not superior.

Can you think yourself into a 'role' of being a person who doesn't take any shit from anyone? Someone with supreme confidence in their own abilities... maybe do a Paul McKenna cd trance thing for confidence.

Staying an extra five hours to accommodate the fact he lives in another time zone is ridiculous. Is it possible to redo your hours so you start five hours later?

Best of luck with your job search, he sounds impossible.

EstherGreenwood19 · 02/05/2023 18:08

You absolutely need to say to him that the way he speaks to you is making you completely miserable. A bully only exists as long as we let them. Say you love your job and want to remain but ‘is there a way we could work on better communication?’ This sounds idealist but trust me I knew a bully like this and he said ‘why the fuck did nobody say?’ Explain that you’re frightened to say anything but you’ve tried everything. You’ve actually got nothing to lose as you’ll bin the job anyway if it doesn’t improve.

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · 02/05/2023 18:09

Niceseasidetown · 02/05/2023 14:42

Can I ask you guys though...could I find him so hard because I have an ego problem? He IS the multi-millionaire...do I have an attitude problem?

Oh absolutely - it's definitely not the batshit megalomaniac arsehole, it's you...

beaugaia · 02/05/2023 18:10

I'd record your boss on your phone and post it on tik tok.

Whochangedmynamec · 02/05/2023 18:12

I know someone in a similar situation who did have a breakdown
He controlled the narrative in which he was perfect and they were terrible
He enlisted support and had his cronies cause hell
Tried to wreck them professionally and personally
despite a campaign of harrassing them accused them of harrassment etc

For these reasons OP is best off sucking it up and running. I think any attempt at justice might backfire. If there’s any way you can go off sick, do it. Don’t rile them up. It’s all very well believing in justice but this is cancel culture, fake news society. Protect yourself OP.

Lolaandbehold · 02/05/2023 18:12

OP I don’t have a celeb boss but when I went through a similar phase of absolutely hating my then new job, a good friend told me to just take it one day at a time and never to look beyond it but just work on your exit plan ok the side . It’s simplistic and it worked for me.
Good luck, OP. The problem with slebs is that they surround themselves with Yes men and they develop this ego that transcends reality.

MMUmum · 02/05/2023 18:12

Once you are able to leave you would have a case for constructive dismissal, however as you say legal.action.can be costly if you don't win

HayMambo · 02/05/2023 18:15

I'm so sorry you are going through such a tough time OP. I was in a similar position myself recently - it is just horrible and a far more common situation than it should be. The course of action you take to get through the next couple of months until you can move to another job will depend on your personality, but I coped by keeping my head down and my powder dry until I got out. Making a principled stand against an ego-maniac whilst they have control over you and your livelihood and wellbeing could make things so much worse for you. Record the behaviour and whistle-blow to HR on your way out the door. Mentally detach until then and take care of your wellbeing. No job is worth your health and sanity. Sending you hugs and the best of luck

diningiswest · 02/05/2023 18:19

Oh you have all my sympathy - I'm in a really similar situation and for various different but complex reasons cannot leave.

You've had some really good advice so far - I'm a particular fan of writing it all down (and having a special folder for particularly stupid emails). And also grey rock.

But there's some really specific stuff to do with dealing with narcissists which has really helped me. One is not to reveal anything about your personal life or anything really that can be used against you; this makes things easier. The second is - and I hate this but it is the only way to survive - give up your own ego. Yes you are right, yes you know what you are doing, but you are never going to win. So get your exit ducks in a row, but in the meantime, let him think he is right, that every idea is his, and just get on with it. It's grim, but works.

I suspect from what you say that he is a fragile narcissist and is actually threatened by your competence. So by doing your job better, you will make things worse. (I am working with someone who is trying to remove everything I do from the company because I can do it and they can't. Really).

Mummybear2011 · 02/05/2023 18:22

Get some legal advice. Then quit and sue for constructive dismissal and bullying. They have made your position untenable. You don’t need to put up with that. Virtually all firms settle before they get to court, not least if they want to protect their celebrity status.

Mulhollandmagoo · 02/05/2023 18:24

I know it's not 100% ideal, but could you sign up to an agency? Lots of them can get you temp work in a factory or a supermarket type environment which will help you keep the lights on in the short term? So sorry you're going through this OP...some people are massive twats!!

Conky1975 · 02/05/2023 18:25

OP have you signed a NDA? If not, he stands to lose a lot (reputationally) if you do name and shame.

Chances are if you do it, others would. He’s probably not just being a c**t to you.

Document everything, write a work diary and start keeping records.

Bababette · 02/05/2023 18:27

Quitelikeacatslife · 01/05/2023 11:21

Collect evidence now that you are doing the job you are paid for, get evidence of your achievements etc stashed away and also of any unfair treatment, get him to put things in writing, and if he fires you then take him to tribunal for unfair dismissal. It sounds like someone needs to stand up to him. He won't want the publicity of that

This is exactly what I was coming to say. If you do nothing his behaviour will continue. Plus you’ll get tremendous satisfaction from it.

Mandyjack · 02/05/2023 18:27

Do you work for a non alcoholic gin company?

Namechange224422 · 02/05/2023 18:34

I worked for a boss who wasn’t a celebrity but who was well known and well liked in her sphere. She was utterly shit at her job.

It was only once I was completely out of the situation that I could see clearly how much of the situation sat with her - when in position I spent quite a lot of time trying to open her eyes to concerns. It felt like a car crash waiting to happen.

A number of my colleagues could also see the problems but chose to ignore them - I’m not someone who can do that.

sonearly · 02/05/2023 18:36

Record the behaviour and whistle-blow to HR on your way out the door.

Lol, whistle-blowing to HR about the owner of the company will achieve precisely nothing. You pay HR to deal with shit so the management doesn't have to and protect the company's interests. The only reason they won't throw this complaint in the bin is they'd have to print it out first.

@OP: You phoned Samaritans because of this job. Get another job. Honestly I'd tend to say go off sick. If you whistle-blow to anyone, make sure it is not one of his employees.

Seriously, fuck that guy and his miserable employment. NO JOB is worth torment.

Skodacool · 02/05/2023 18:39

HermioneWeasley · 01/05/2023 11:50

keep the evidence.

secretly record if you can. Write notes of every interaction in detail.

when you have enough you ask for a settlement, or if you’ve secured another job then resign and sue for constructive dismissal. He will not want this material in the public domain

This is the way to go if you’ve been there for at least 2 years. Also, put in a grievance through the proper channels, ie HR. You can then line yourself up for a constructive dismissal claim at an employment tribunal. You should not be trying to ‘manage’ this situation. Try ACAS for some sound advice. This boss needs to be hit in his pocket.

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