JonBenét Ramsey.

[Chateaulaohshit]

Im watching The Casting of JonBenét on Netflix and had no idea how much information I didn’t know about the case but also all the different set of scenarios that may have lead to her death.

It doesn’t seem that anyone was ever charged despite some really disturbing evidence and behaviours of people closed to her…

what does everyone else think happed?

I was thinking of the similarities with Jeffrey Macdonald's case because his description of the hippies who allegedly broke into the house and killed his wife and kids leaving him as the sole survivor was as implausible as the ransom note in JonBenet's case. He said they were saying "Acid is groovey" 🤦‍♀️. It's like a very posh person's fantasy of what hippies would say and do.

It sad thing is that if the parents actually told the truth in the very beginning, this case would not have actually received the incredible publicity it did over the years. JonBenet's death was most likely an accident and if it was the son who did it, he wouldn't have been charged due to his age.

@XelaM acid is groovy 😂😂 wtf 😂

Also, I once witnessed a very strange incident of an owl viciously attacking a woman in a park and since then I cannot shake the owl theory, when I say it was a vicious attack, I mean absolutely hideously vicious! So I think that changed my opinion with the Michael Peterson case. Because unless I'd seen that I'd think it was bat shit crazy to even consider it but this owl went at this woman hard!

Jonbenet’s cause of death was asphyxiation. So if Burke did cause her skull injuries, that wasn’t what killed her. Which means she was still alive when someone made a tourniquet out of Patsy’s paintbrush using a very specific type of knot.

Not sure if many 9 year olds are capable of that.

Burke was about to turn ten the following month, I think. It is not unheard of for ten year old children to commit murder (eg Venables and Thompson). I also think Burke was a scout, so it would not be an impossible knot for him to tie. However, the Boulder police investigating the case do not believe he was involved at all, in any way.

The saddest thing about this sad case was that JonBenet was deeply unconscious after the blow to her head, not dead, and if someone in the house had called an ambulance then she may well have survived, possibly impaired, possibly not.

I think the only person who probably knows what happened was the detective Linda Arndt, she was there there that morning alone observing everyone , her interviews pinpoints two people , and it’s not patsy or Burke,

The problem with this case all told is that there was huge muddying of the waters by the parents, possibly they each thought the other did it or they thought Burke did it or whatever.....

The ransom note was almost certainly fake, but it really is hard to work out what happened when people involved are not being open/behaving strangely/law enforcement are misled or even themselves are just wrong....

You have other incidences like this such as with Madeline McCann, Meredith Kercher, and many others - law enforcement following the "wrong" trail, suspects behaving in non-standard ways....makes it very difficult to decipher.

Occam's razor.

Burke, or the parents.

My money is on Burke, and they covered it up so as to not lose a second child.

I know she felt strongly about John Ramsey. But who is the second person?

Haven't read what Linda Arndt said, but why would John Ramsey kill her? I don't think there was any evidence of any history of abuse and it's not like the usual men who kill their whole families. Why only JonBenet? What would be the motive?

Haven't read what Linda Arndt said, but why would John Ramsey kill her? I don't think there was any evidence of any history of abuse and it's not like the usual men who kill their whole families. Why only JonBenet? What would be the motive?

In this scenario, a likely motive would be covering up for someone else in your family and to preserve image.

There was a suspicion of prior sexual abuse. Poor JB was sexually assaulted on the night of her death, but the Ramseys denied this. It is a fact though.

She was a chronic bed wetter and went to the doctor for frequent urine infections.

Because he didn't. The brother did, and the parents didn't want to lose him too.

It isn't that easy, Linda Arndt can be mistaken like anyone else. My husband was a detective, the first murder he worked on the senior detective leading the enquiry "knew" who did it. Other more junior detectives, like my husband, didn't agree but he was the one with experience, he was in charge and he "knew." He couldn't prove it though and it was difficult as there was no body.

So months passed and the actual murderer, not the one the senior detective "knew" did it, had a row with his girlfriend and she went to the police station to report him for the murder. Unsurprisingly the senior detective refused to believe it, a woman scorned and all that. Bit awkward when she took them to where the body was buried and they got forensic evidence.

People can "know" all sorts of things but that doesn't always make it true.

I know she felt strongly about John Ramsey. But who is the second person?
there were 4 friends of the Ramsay’s and their pastor at the house ,
linda was called to be there when the kidnappers call between 8-10 , she said many things stood out , but what struck her the most is when the time passed and no one mentions anything ,
when she tells John that the house needs to be searched top to bottom John and his friend Fleet white go straight to the basement , and find Jean Benét
but the basement was searched earlier by several people including Fleet white that morning and they’ve said it was too dark to see anything but when John and Fleet go there a second time the find her straight away.

Fleet White later said that John flung open the cellar door and immediately yelled out that he’d found her. Fleet thought it was strange because the room was pitch black until they turned the light on. How did he see her?

Linda Arndt got such a bad feeling off of John that she checked how many bullets she had in her gun.

But these people all went on to write books about the case, so who knows?

John was also trying to still go ahead with his flight on the private plane he’d chartered for a family holiday. The police told him to cancel it.

Extremely odd to want to press ahead if you think your child is missing. Of course, he knew full well that she wasn’t.

I don't think Arndt had any sense Fleet White was involved.

The whole point of that comment was when Fleet opened that door (that the officer first alerted to the scene never looked inside, because they were searching the house for entry and exit points of an intruder and it was latched from inside the house) he could see nothing as it was pitch dark, with no window, and there was a light switch in an odd position he didn't know about.

But when he returned with John, John opened the door and immediately sighted the body, without turning first on the light. Plus many other things about John's demeanour that day.

Fleet distanced himself from the Ramseys as he was so disgusted by how they were blocking the investigation, and I also think he had his suspicions.

not only that but after "the intruder" finished the ransom note, they kindly returned the notepad and pen back to its correct drawer, in the dark
and they also threw away the practice paper into the bin

I think someone in the family murdered her. I can't see why someone would bother writing a randsom note, when she was already dead. I think Burke is a very strange person and shows no emotion. However, it's seems unlikely that a nine year old would have the ability to murder. Wa s there any sign of a break in?