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CurlewKate · 19/04/2023 07:49

What do I think? I think making entertainment out of real life murder is despicable and shows the worst side of human nature. You did ask.

WhatNoRaisins · 19/04/2023 07:55

I'm not sure I see the point in rehashing these things without some new insight or evidence.

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Chateaulaohshit · 19/04/2023 07:57

MattTebbuttsDenimShirt · 18/04/2023 18:59

I think the thing is... Is that you have only just heard about the case.

Which means you were either very young or not born when it happened.

If you feel you have some evidence to bring, please do so. Otherwise you are just rehashing theories about a little girls death, that many have done before.

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Where an earth did you pull that narrative from?!

All I said in my OP was until watching the Netflix documentary I was unaware of some information regarding the case and murder…

There are 1,000’s of crime documentary’s, podcasts, articles discussing theories on historical cases, are you going to go an police them all?!

I’m sure The Casting of JonBeneét Ramsey is not the most informative doc out there but what I took from it is how many possibilities and people around her COULD have led to her murder, the contrast of the beautiful house, polished Jesus loving & beautiful beauty pageant image and that painted on smile I’m contrast to the darkness that was around her is so shocking.

Whatever happens I feel she was exploited and failed her whole little life.

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CurlewKate · 19/04/2023 08:03

@Chateaulaohshit "All I said in my OP was until watching the Netflix documentary I was unaware of some information regarding the case and murder…" Why should you be? Are you in any way connected with this child or her family?

EmilyGilmoresSass · 19/04/2023 08:16

SargentSagittarius · 19/04/2023 07:40

God, the tedious virtue signallers saying how goulish and inappropriate it is to speculate.

Clear off.

Like it or not, approve of it or not - true crime and cold cases are interesting to some people - the speculation boat has well and truly sailed in this genre with all the podcasts on just this sort of thing widely available.

Just scroll on by - you’re not going to stop people discussing something of interest to them on a public forum.

There is being interested and then there is sitting acting like a know it all and picking apart a young child's murder for entertainment 🙄

Princessfuckingpeach · 19/04/2023 08:20

The police were so overwhelmed with this Investigation and fucked up crime scene, its highly unlikely that anyone would have been convicted as there would be so much reasonable doubt.

I've always wondered with her being in the public eye so much did she have a stalker?

Also, pageants, they're just so grim. I don't care about it being a culture thing for southerners, they're gross. I imagine that in a time without the dark Web to access child abuse, there were certain people out there who became fixated on these little girls.

Her little life just seemed so crap.

SargentSagittarius · 19/04/2023 08:25

EmilyGilmoresSass · 19/04/2023 08:16

There is being interested and then there is sitting acting like a know it all and picking apart a young child's murder for entertainment 🙄

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So swerve the thread??

CurlewKate · 19/04/2023 08:32

gettingoldisshit · 19/04/2023 08:33

SargentSagittarius · 19/04/2023 07:40

God, the tedious virtue signallers saying how goulish and inappropriate it is to speculate.

Clear off.

Like it or not, approve of it or not - true crime and cold cases are interesting to some people - the speculation boat has well and truly sailed in this genre with all the podcasts on just this sort of thing widely available.

Just scroll on by - you’re not going to stop people discussing something of interest to them on a public forum.

Spot on

AndTheSurveySays · 19/04/2023 08:44

It's pretty implausible that anyone else could have come into the house to do it

Even though the Ramsey held an open house (as they did at Xmas every year) the day before?!
I believe it's likely that a pervert had his eye on JB for a while and used the open house as an opportunity to get in and hide until nighttime to carry out the crime.

Dilemma19 · 19/04/2023 08:47

NewtonsCradle · 18/04/2023 14:41

The Dr Phil interview with Burke Ramsey is worth a look, I think it makes him look less of a suspect albeit a bit of a shy and awkward man.

I thought he came across extremely creepy and weird.

Beezknees · 19/04/2023 08:57

AndTheSurveySays · 19/04/2023 08:44

It's pretty implausible that anyone else could have come into the house to do it

Even though the Ramsey held an open house (as they did at Xmas every year) the day before?!
I believe it's likely that a pervert had his eye on JB for a while and used the open house as an opportunity to get in and hide until nighttime to carry out the crime.

If a stranger did it, it would mean they were smart enough not to leave any fingerprints or evidence behind, but dumb enough to commit the crime in the house where they could be heard and waste time writing a long rambling ransom note for no reason? Doesn't seem plausible to me at all.

Nimbostratus100 · 19/04/2023 08:58

Chateaulaohshit · 18/04/2023 13:28

Im watching The Casting of JonBenét on Netflix and had no idea how much information I didn’t know about the case but also all the different set of scenarios that may have lead to her death.

It doesn’t seem that anyone was ever charged despite some really disturbing evidence and behaviours of people closed to her…

what does everyone else think happed?

nobody on mumsnet can possibly know, so why ask?

poor little girl

GeriKellmansUpdo · 19/04/2023 09:01

I won't speculate on who did it, but the ransom note was the wildest thing I have ever read, and no one can convince me it was real.

BlackBarbies · 19/04/2023 09:04

SparkyBlue · 18/04/2023 15:58

It really isn't an odd thing to do. I've known Shaunas with dads who were Sean, a Phillip called after a grandmother called Phillipa, Gemma called after Jim, Michelle for Michael. It might not be something you'd do but it's not weird or unusual.

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That’s literally not the same thing. Like AT ALL. Maybe read the posters post again?

Iwasafool · 19/04/2023 09:07

BertieBotts · 18/04/2023 19:02

I'm glad that you are happy about being named after your father. Don't let some random on the internet bother you about that!

However, also not what I'm saying, unless your name is DaveSmiff or something, which I'm guessing it's not.

I am married to someone who is named after his father and finds it really annoying so that might have coloured my view, sorry!

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My first and 2nd name were my father's names, both names can be used for a man or a woman although my first name tends to be assumed to be male in the UK but in other countries it tends to be assumed to be female. It isn't weird though, I was very close to my father who died while I was still a child and I love that I have his name. The fact that someone finds it annoying does not make it weird.

Viviennemary · 19/04/2023 09:09

I don't think it was a stranger who broke into the house.

Enko · 19/04/2023 09:09

Beezknees · 19/04/2023 08:57

If a stranger did it, it would mean they were smart enough not to leave any fingerprints or evidence behind, but dumb enough to commit the crime in the house where they could be heard and waste time writing a long rambling ransom note for no reason? Doesn't seem plausible to me at all.

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There is unknown male dna under her nails. The police didn't section off the house so friends came over and stuff was tidied up and washed up. So there may have been finger prints its just part of how badly the case was handled to begin with that made it so they don't know.

Another example is when she was found they didn't tell them to leave her If they found her so she was picked up and carried upstairs.

Iwasafool · 19/04/2023 09:12

ThisNameIsNotAvailable · 19/04/2023 06:53

Of all the judgement on here, saying that naming a female child after their father is the least offensive, although I get that it affects you personally whereas the rest doesn’t.

I hate to break it to you all but reading a book or watching a documentary doesn’t make you a detective. Surely it’s possible to discuss the case without making wild accusations of which at least some of them are going to be wrong, because some journalists have presented information in a particular way to make you draw a certain conclusion.

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Actually reading that my father was "weirdly narcissistic" is offensive. Maybe it wouldn't bother you but it bothers me as he was anything but narcissistic, just a very loving man who was too ill live long enough to see his children grow up due to things that happened during his service in WWII.

I think it is weird to judge people for what they call their child and there are many weirder names around than JonBenet.

Iwasafool · 19/04/2023 09:15

Dilemma19 · 19/04/2023 08:47

I thought he came across extremely creepy and weird.

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Probably being accused of killing your sister from age 9 onwards for years would make you a bit weird, shy and awkward. I feel sorry for him if he is innocent as what happened to his sister has also ruined his life.

memoire · 19/04/2023 09:21

I have to agree that "true crime" is such a pervasive and prolific thing that the ship has truly sailed.

While I don't personally, so many of my – nice and normal! not the weirdo sort – friends and family (all in their 20s like me though) consume true crime podcasts, documentaries, videos, etc.

Iamtheonwandlonely · 19/04/2023 09:23

I fe l sorry for the poor girl murdered,the police fucked up the crime scene.
That poor child will be er get justice.

Enko · 19/04/2023 09:25

lavagal · 18/04/2023 18:54

Can anyone reccomend a documentary to watch on this that is insiteful ?

They are you tube/podcast
Stephanie Harlowe and Mile higher have both done good cases on this. I believe that Stephanie intends to revisit with her crime weekly podcast too.

Earlier in the thread @SnapchatJustForTheFilters. Recommended Favourite Murder and Sinisterhood have both done excellent episodes on Jonbenet.
And @CometCupidDonnerBlitzen. Recommended Matt Orchard on YouTube did a
really good (and surprisingly tasteful) job of looking at the case recently. .

I haven't seen either but intend to as I watch a lot of true crime and neither are familiar for me. Always interesting to find new good ones.

Also some years ago DrPhill did a interview with Bourke I don't find it that great personally but it is interesting to watch after having seen other information about the case.

AndTheSurveySays · 19/04/2023 09:28

If a stranger did it, it would mean they were smart enough not to leave any fingerprints or evidence behind, but dumb enough to commit the crime in the house where they could be heard and waste time writing a long rambling ransom note for no reason? Doesn't seem plausible to me at all

It's not uncommon for sexual offfenders to commit crimes in a victims home, it's part of their fetish, turns them on.

The friends of the Ramseys had been in the house and cleaned. It's very likely that evidence had been wiped away unknowingly.

Burke probably comes across as a bit weird because he's been accused by randoms of murdering his sister. He then had to watch as his mother slowly died of cancer and wasn't able to afford treatment.

thewinterwitch · 19/04/2023 09:46

There is unknown male dna under her nails.

No, there wasn't.