JonBenét Ramsey.

[Chateaulaohshit]

Im watching The Casting of JonBenét on Netflix and had no idea how much information I didn’t know about the case but also all the different set of scenarios that may have lead to her death.

It doesn’t seem that anyone was ever charged despite some really disturbing evidence and behaviours of people closed to her…

what does everyone else think happed?

The most compelling reason I don't believe it was the family is because saying she'd been kidnapped and then putting her in the basement makes no sense.

The very least you'd expect from the police when you report a child missing is that they'd secure the scene and search the entire property, therefore your kidnapping story would immediately go to shit so it's a non-starter. There's no way the family could have predicted how badly the police would gave fucked up that investigation from the beginning, so why would they have risked it?

It would have made more sense for them to remove her from the property and stage a kidnapping, or not have staged a kidnapping at all and just say she's missing.

Well that made me feel great. I am named after my father and it has always made me feel special. I'm also the second child so there you go something I've always loved is apparently odd.

Judgement on here is great isn't it.

Or what it would be like if he is innocent but people on the internet are saying it was him.

I read the book by James Kolar, who was an investigator on the case. It left me pretty convinced it was the son.

Can anyone reccomend a documentary to watch on this that is insiteful ?

I think the thing is... Is that you have only just heard about the case.

Which means you were either very young or not born when it happened.

If you feel you have some evidence to bring, please do so. Otherwise you are just rehashing theories about a little girls death, that many have done before.

I think people who are accusing her brother need to remember he sued one documentary producer and received a $6mil settlement because it was false.

I'm glad that you are happy about being named after your father. Don't let some random on the internet bother you about that!

However, also not what I'm saying, unless your name is DaveSmiff or something, which I'm guessing it's not.

I am married to someone who is named after his father and finds it really annoying so that might have coloured my view, sorry!

Sorry not the right amount but he originally sued for $750 mil.

I haven't watched/read anything about this sad case in quite a while so my memory might be a bit fuzzy, but I don't think the family had anything at all to do with it. I think it was the person living nearby with the same boots that matched the boot print at the home and that the police grossly mishandled the investigation.

How is it possible that the family had nothing to do with it when there was THAT ransom note?! It's just not possible that note was real and not written by the mother

@XelaM I don't know.

I’ve watched quite a lot on it, I’ve been inclined to think it was one of the family

It's just not possible that note was real and not written by the mother.

It's quite possible the note was written by the father, and made to look like the mother's handwriting. He had hours to work on it, after all. The note would have bought him time to dispose of the body of poor JonBenet, if she'd acted according to its instructions and not called the police. Why would she write that note and then call the police?

Every theory can be made to fit the known facts, ie.

This.

i saw something ages ago, was either FBI doing cold cases outside statute of limitations or retired FBI team doing it, can’t recall. Same group that reanalysed Lizzie Borden case with a modern lens with evidence available. Was interesting. They did things like clean up phone calls that were made so they could more clearly hear background noise etc. FBI didn’t have the case at the time, it was local jurisdiction. If they did there would likely have been an outcome at the time as they are a lot more sophisticated and suited to these crimes. Anyway, they did come out with a ‘strong hypothesis’ based on evidence. Meant nothing as was not prosecutable for several reasons. They were threatened with being sued but that went nowhere as they had done nothing wrong as such. It basically gives you the answer though.

So disrespectful to the victim. You find it funny?

Of all the judgement on here, saying that naming a female child after their father is the least offensive, although I get that it affects you personally whereas the rest doesn’t.

I hate to break it to you all but reading a book or watching a documentary doesn’t make you a detective. Surely it’s possible to discuss the case without making wild accusations of which at least some of them are going to be wrong, because some journalists have presented information in a particular way to make you draw a certain conclusion.

I thought it was ruled out there was historical sexual abuse?

Judge Carnes: "No evidence, however, suggests that she was the victim of chronic sexual abuse. (SMF P 50; PSMF P 50.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).

Autopsy evidence concluded that sexual injuries were acquired post death.

The allegations of sexual abuse materialised from previous doctors visits where the poor little girl had visited due to inflammation in the vulva. Medical professionals agreed that this was likely due to harsh soaps or washing powder.

That is what is in the court transcripts that are in the public domain. I know various documentaries have suggested otherwise, but isn’t that hear say?

This thread is in very poor taste. There's a little girl at the centre and you're sensationalising it.
If this was about MM the thread would have been pulled already.

Completely agree. I can understand why documentaries or programmes are made to raise awareness of missing people etc. That i understand. But I have no idea why these dramatised true crime shows are made for 'entertainment' and for people to become armchair detectives. Did people learn nothing from the death of poor Nicola Bulley and the amount of muppets walking round acting Sherlock? I recall a similar documentary being newly made and overheard someone in a cafe saying 'how boring' it was and couldn't believe my ears

I'm absolutely convinced it was someone in the family. The mother, father or brother. Most likely the brother. It's pretty implausible that anyone else could have come into the house to do it.

God, the tedious virtue signallers saying how goulish and inappropriate it is to speculate.

Clear off.

Like it or not, approve of it or not - true crime and cold cases are interesting to some people - the speculation boat has well and truly sailed in this genre with all the podcasts on just this sort of thing widely available.

Just scroll on by - you’re not going to stop people discussing something of interest to them on a public forum.

Oh the irony 🙄

And look at you refreshing the thread, and replying and replying.

Leave the thread if you find it so distasteful. You won’t.