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Nepmarthiturn · 04/04/2023 10:36

...only if and when you're not feeling antisocial and want the entire world to +%$¥ off, or course. 😉😆

A few of us were talking on another thread and thought it would be nice to have a support/ chat thread on here to share interests/ challenges/ parenting issues or whatever we feel like. A little community of autistic women on here that we can dip in and out of but will be supportive and friendly and people who actually get it.

Might also be a nice counterbalance to all of the horrific posts about autism that we find here so regularly!!

P.S. Have deliberately posted this in chat rather than in the ND Mumsnetters topic because it will hopefully reach more people who would like to join in. I didn't even realise that section existed for a long time and often miss threads there as they don't show in active and expect I'm not alone in that. However, in posting this here, we will be relying on the people with obnoxious and ignorant views about autism who so regularly post on Mumsnet, to demonstrate to us their allegedly superior empathy (ha!) and please just leave this thread alone: it's not for you. Many thanks!!

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Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 20:34

And I’m married to an undiagnosed but unmistakable AuDHD husband. DS is 5 and we’ve just started the autism assessment process for him (school has confirmed they treat him as autistic). DD is too young to tell.

amusedbush · 04/04/2023 20:38

I'm also late to the party but I'm glad I've found you all!

Late diagnosed AuDHD-er here 👋I started taking ADHD meds back in December 2021 and, just as I was warned, they have dampened my ADHD traits and given my autistic traits room to truly shine 😂between that and working from home for 2.5 years during the pandemic, my mask has slipped and I can no longer dismiss my own comfort for that of the NTs. It turns out my support needs are much higher than anyone would have guessed (including me!) but I can't un-ring the bell.

I'm typing this from my bed and I'm wearing my ear defenders because I'm so overstimulated from playing with my dog. He's very cute but bloody hell, he's persistent and has to be touching me at all times.

Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 20:42

amusedbush · 04/04/2023 20:38

I'm also late to the party but I'm glad I've found you all!

Late diagnosed AuDHD-er here 👋I started taking ADHD meds back in December 2021 and, just as I was warned, they have dampened my ADHD traits and given my autistic traits room to truly shine 😂between that and working from home for 2.5 years during the pandemic, my mask has slipped and I can no longer dismiss my own comfort for that of the NTs. It turns out my support needs are much higher than anyone would have guessed (including me!) but I can't un-ring the bell.

I'm typing this from my bed and I'm wearing my ear defenders because I'm so overstimulated from playing with my dog. He's very cute but bloody hell, he's persistent and has to be touching me at all times.

@amusedbush oh that’s interesting re meds… I suspect I’m also AuDHD, it would be great if meds could take the edge off the ADHD… I wouldn’t mind the autistic coming to the fore a bit more, I’m so sick of masking. And I sympathise with the dog, I have a terrier who squeaks constantly and I have to put him out because it literally physically grates on me sometimes.

Boopydoo · 04/04/2023 20:50

Nepmarthiturn · 04/04/2023 14:01

Not horrible at all. I totally get what you mean. I mamaged for so many years but am really reaching my limit now, so burned out, and not sure how much longer I can sustain things. It's scary. I don't know what the answer is. 😕

Just an insight and something I am currently trying to get my head around right now. Because I am burnt out I've called social services in to get my eldest into some assisted living. I've been his carer all his life and I can't do it any more. Nor can I make him do more himself and get him to be more independent. So yes, his money he gets has helped us pay private sector rent etc over the years, and I've received carers allowance for a good few years now whilst feeling guilty for claiming it when I'm actually just looking after my own son.
The other shocking side of this is the amount of rent that will be paid for him to house share, over a £1000 a month. Then my carers allowance stops but gets added on to his benefit and he will possibly have to pay a small amount to the care team. It's costing the system a fortune, but they pay us a pittance as parents and don't recognise the mental strain on us. As soon as this all happens, I can no longer afford my rent for myself and my youngest and will need to be out there working. Just wondering where I am going to find the mental capacity, let alone the physical energy to do this.

Needhelp101 · 04/04/2023 20:59

OP, I'd like to thank you for this thread.

It's honestly blowing my mind though. There are so many posts in here that resonate with me but half of me is thinking ' but doesn't EVERYONE think like this?'
But they clearly don't, hence the realisation of our 'otherness'.
I'm not expressing myself very well but it's really, really, eye-opening, in a good way!

Oh and I'm all about the notebooks, lists, rats and guinea pigs ❤️

amusedbush · 04/04/2023 21:03

Itsonlyagame · 04/04/2023 18:02

Can anyone else hear electricity? I remember being very surprised that not everyone can hear it. I also hear things like ultrasonic animal deterants.

Yep, I can hear both of those! I have to sleep with brown noise playing because there is no such thing as silence for me - if it's too quiet, I can hear electricity buzzing in the walls.

DH was recently like Confused because I was freaking out about the neighbour's washing machine. He said he couldn't hear a thing but the spin cycle through the wall makes me feel like my brain is vibrating in my skull.

I don't know if you're a Still Game fan but he jokingly calls me Shug: (that link should take you to the scene I'm referring to but if not, it's 09:43 - 10:20) Grin

episode 2 Faimly

https://youtu.be/jJuclZERPWg?t=583

Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 21:05

It amazes me that other people can’t hear electricity. The silence in a power cut is just bliss.

amusedbush · 04/04/2023 21:10

Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 20:42

@amusedbush oh that’s interesting re meds… I suspect I’m also AuDHD, it would be great if meds could take the edge off the ADHD… I wouldn’t mind the autistic coming to the fore a bit more, I’m so sick of masking. And I sympathise with the dog, I have a terrier who squeaks constantly and I have to put him out because it literally physically grates on me sometimes.

Mine is a terrier too! A Jack Russell (maybe crossed with a chihuahua; he's very small and has a "jack-chi" shaped head). He'll be 10 in August and shows no sign of slowing down... or shutting up... Grin

Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 21:21

amusedbush · 04/04/2023 21:10

Mine is a terrier too! A Jack Russell (maybe crossed with a chihuahua; he's very small and has a "jack-chi" shaped head). He'll be 10 in August and shows no sign of slowing down... or shutting up... Grin

Ha! Ours is a JRT x Border. He squeaks at ultrasonic frequency and DH can’t hear him 😂

Shirtyllama · 04/04/2023 21:29

Collaborate · 04/04/2023 12:13

Hope I can add to this thread. I'm not autistic but my 18yr old daughter was recently diagnosed. She's away at University in her first year and has spent most of her time cooped up in her room. Choosing modules that don't have exams, stuff like that.

The worry I have for her is that doing anything that involves new interactions is incredibly tough. I wonder how she'll cope applying for kobs and when in work, and worry about her vulnerability in any relationships she has (not aware of any yet).

Yet the people posting here seem to have jobs and families, so I suspect I'm catastrophising somewhat. Can anyone put my mind at rest?

I was like your daughter at university, and it was so hard, never considered autism (the 90s...) but I did get a diagnosis of "social phobia" which was apparently quite cutting edge back then! After that I learnt lots of coping techniques to deal with my "shyness" and did actually make a really nice reasonably social life for myself!
Diagnosed with ADHD many years later and suspect perhaps autism too but have had enough jumping through diagnostic hoops.
I wish your daughter many good things, finding ways to cope whether there or back home doing something different, and being able to find the things she can fit into her life and great like minded people to spend a lot or a little time with.

Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 21:34

JarByTheDoor · 04/04/2023 19:54

My mum is undiagnosed but every ASD box I tick, she could tick twice, plus a few others on top. I am very sure she would be diagnosed, were she assessed.

And she said to me that she did try taking me to toddler groups, but since neither I nor she enjoyed it very much, it didn't become a regular thing — she'd go back and try a few sessions every so often, to see if I still hated it 🤣

But the good thing about having a (still undiagnosed) autistic mum as a (then undiagnosed) autistic kid was that, at least within my family, I wasn't weird, and she was on my side and had a good idea what I needed without even having to think about it.

Didn't like toddler group? Okay, neither did she, we'll do something else.

Starting to read at two and an obsessive reader from that point? Aw, just like her mum 😊 isn't it cute? We'd better go to the library so she's got plenty of new stuff to read.

Can't tie her hair back/do up her shoelaces/tell the time/brush her own teeth, despite many attempts to learn, until years after most other kids manage it? She'll get there at some point, no fuss made, keep trying but make adjustments in the meantime.

Can't bear tight shoes on her unusually wide feet? Okay, we'll get her the same shoes as last time, or spend two hours in the shop again finding bearable ones, and school will be informed that she'll be wearing trainers for PE instead of the regulation black plimsolls. (Not asked, informed. With things like that, my quiet, polite, unassuming, gentle mum would simply and confidently inform the school of the exceptions they'd be making for me. Same goes for my -6D prescription goggles for school swimming, when goggles weren't allowed, and my digital watch when only analogue were permitted. And the school just accepted it! I'm not sure how she did it… maybe it's your "mama bear" energy.)

I did also have major behavioural issues that they really tried hard to tackle, without any modern knowledge of ASD (though my mum did have a special interest in child development in general and autism in particular in the 80s Hmm), and primary school did eventually go completely tits-up for me, but for "weird" things that weren't that weird within my family, where adjustments could be made without impacting others, my parents just kinda went with whatever kind of developmental paths I seemed to be trundling along.

If it's at all possible for her (I don't know what her difficulties are), I'm sure your DD either massively appreciates you, or will come to do so.

@JarByTheDoor your mum sounds amazing. I’m an autistic mum of an autistic DS. I make those adjustments where I see the need but your lovely post has reminded me why I need to be patient with him. You sound just like me at school. It’s so strange reading this coming together of people who resonate with me after years of feeling odd.

Afonavon · 04/04/2023 21:48

I am self diagnosed and am so happy for this thread. I mask all day and am mentally exhausted. I am happy to be somewhere I can be myself.

OdeToBarney · 04/04/2023 22:14

Tentatively saying hello and hoping I'm not too late to the thread.

I'm a 30 something mum to one DD who is just shy of her first birthday. It didn't really cross my mind I might be autistic until a couple of years ago, but since DD was born it couldn't have been any clearer. The noise, the mess, I find it all physically painful. I was diagnosed with late onset PND and then PTSD due to some medical trauma relating to DD's health. However, my psychiatrist has written a report that says I'm autistic and I'm having a formal assessment next week. I'm dreading going back to work next month as I have a demanding job which I would ordinarily cope with by taking a lot of down time but obviously that won't be happening now. I genuinely have no idea how I'll cope with working and parenting!

There's a lot I could say about how autism affects me but I'm too scared to blether on and make it all about me 😬 (something I've realised I do a lot!)

JarByTheDoor · 04/04/2023 22:27

Ichosetheredpill · 04/04/2023 21:34

@JarByTheDoor your mum sounds amazing. I’m an autistic mum of an autistic DS. I make those adjustments where I see the need but your lovely post has reminded me why I need to be patient with him. You sound just like me at school. It’s so strange reading this coming together of people who resonate with me after years of feeling odd.

Ah my mum's fantastic (IMHO).

Though, to be fair, her autistic traits were slightly less convenient when she was required to fill out questionnaires for my ASD diagnostic process 🤣

I read her the questionnaires and transcribed answers she gave me over the phone, and much of the time her initial answer was that, as a child, I seemed quite normal to her in whatever domain they were asking about (which I transcribed). But when asked for more details, she described fairly clear indicators of autism (which I also transcribed — must've been a fun form to read). And when asked something like, "Did Jar respond with appropriate facial expressions between the ages of x and y," her response was along the lines of "I don't understand what they mean by this question". I ended up just having to faithfully transcribe her bafflement, as we couldn't work out a way for her to meaningfully answer.

Thing is, she essentially can't read facial expressions, unless they're very, very obvious (nor get any information from tone of voice — she's operating on a tiny percentage of the info the average person has at their disposal, and far less than I'm able to interpret, yet somehow she's still one of the kindest, nicest, most considerate people I know).

I can only assume assessors are somewhat used to the odd misleadingly reassuring parent report, when the parent has a frame of reference in which their child's idiosyncrasies are perfectly normal Grin

It's funny when it turns out there were lots of us dotted around the country going through the same sort of thing at more or less the same time, when I suspect each of us probably felt as though we were the only kid who was like this.

Boopydoo · 04/04/2023 22:36

I hear the animal deterrent things, but not electricity all the time. My eldest son can hear the electric and has always gone round switching off sockets and light switches. I have a strong sense of smell too and issues with certain textures, like onions -yuck, I can cope with jelly, but none of my children can, I'm not keen on lumpy sauces either.
I wish I could speed read, well I can, but I don't retain the information any more, I used to.

RockhoppersLovePoppers · 04/04/2023 22:43

BrightWater · 04/04/2023 13:50

I feel terrible I've managed to upset people on here already. I won't post again so please don't anyone leave Flowers

Don't feel terrible. I'm not at the end of the thread yet, but why not start a thread focused on parenting children with autism?

Exibstudent · 04/04/2023 22:51

@OdeToBarney
Can I ask how your PTSD has impacted on your autism and vice versa? My PTSD is due to childhood trauma and I've been told it will be difficult to get a diagnosis as it will be harder to unpick what is trauma based and what is autism based, but i am not sure how true that is (and would probably not be true for someone who's PTSD is later onset). I have found that as I have had PTSD treatment my autism symptoms are less masked, I think because I am safer and happier and therefore more comfortable unmasking. Also things that were ascribed to PTSD are still there and actually probably autistic traits.

OdeToBarney · 04/04/2023 22:58

@Exibstudent I think the biggest crossover for me is I suffer with hypervigilence. That is part of my autism generally, but it's really my worst PTSD symptom. Other than that, I couldn't really say. I'm still at very early stages with both "issues" to be honest. I've got my first therapy assessment for the PTSD tomorrow with a psychologist chosen by my psychiatrist as someone who can deliver therapy appropriately for PTSD to an autistic individual. I think also in my case it's to do with a very specific issue with my daughter so I'm probably not much help to you unfortunately! [Flowers]

EdwinsActsOfKindness · 05/04/2023 07:32

I found this thread last night and spent ages reading, only just got up the courage to post now though.

I’m not diagnosed but have 2 autistic teens (diagnosed at 6 and at 13) and score highly on the various tests I have done. I keep thinking about assessment but don’t quite know how to get started and then my mind goes round in circles. I don’t live in the UK (although am British) and the advice in this country seems a bit conflicting (whether to ask your GP or go private).

I did actually once get up the courage to go to my GP (as was also feeling on an emotional rollercoaster, constantly tired and burnt out) but prepared a sheet beforehand with everything I could think of (I can’t ‘do’ official things otherwise). I listed both physical and mental but the Dr only really focused on the physical. Did a blood test (came back normal) and just focused on the fact that I was about 10kg overweight.

I really resonate with a lot of the posts here. (😂 at Shrug. Love Still Game. This is me too, in fact, we often eat supper with some music on or the telly because it distracts from the sound of chewing and cutlery on plates. The sound of DH and DD cutting something is like nails down a blackboard 😣)

Drumminganimal · 05/04/2023 09:02

Exibstudent · 04/04/2023 22:51

@OdeToBarney
Can I ask how your PTSD has impacted on your autism and vice versa? My PTSD is due to childhood trauma and I've been told it will be difficult to get a diagnosis as it will be harder to unpick what is trauma based and what is autism based, but i am not sure how true that is (and would probably not be true for someone who's PTSD is later onset). I have found that as I have had PTSD treatment my autism symptoms are less masked, I think because I am safer and happier and therefore more comfortable unmasking. Also things that were ascribed to PTSD are still there and actually probably autistic traits.

When I had my autism assessment I mentioned my childhood trauma and said I didn't know whether it was that or ND that was creating anxiety/difficulty with relationships etc, they had no problem unpicking it all and diagnosing autism/ADHD so I think a good assessor would be able to help you.

lsanny · 05/04/2023 09:27

I have c-PTSD. I didn't my autism assessment first, I am very good at compartmentalising but when I then spoke to a psychiatrist about potential PTSD one of the things she asked I replied with 'yes but I don't know if that could be PTSD or just autism' - she responded with 'it can be both' which absolutely opened my eyes. I kept things so separated and some of the PTSD things, in particular hyper vigilance, I did think were just autism. I had no idea that things were not as clear cut as one or the other, but the psychiatrist was excellent and working it all out.

lsanny · 05/04/2023 09:28

I DID my autism assessment first Blush

lsanny · 05/04/2023 09:29

I have since been diagnosed with ADHD as well. The amount of 'crossover' symptoms is surprising but the experts really do know what they are looking for.

SouthCountryGirl · 05/04/2023 09:44

Itsonlyagame · 04/04/2023 18:02

Can anyone else hear electricity? I remember being very surprised that not everyone can hear it. I also hear things like ultrasonic animal deterants.

Thankfully not. I had to get a digital clock because the constant ticking was too loud.

You can buy silent wall clocks as opposed to digital ones.

countingallthseconds · 05/04/2023 11:15

It's occurred to me I may need to change my name to use this thread to its fullest as I will def be posting identifying stuff. So I am going to bow out now and pop up later as someone else. Maybe you can figure out who, maybe not. 😉

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