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Ukraine Invasion: Part 39

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MagicFox · 25/03/2023 22:44

38 filled up quick. Welcome all to 39 🇺🇦

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Amispringy · 02/04/2023 18:38

Interesting

Message for Prigohzin perhaps?

MissConductUS · 02/04/2023 22:44

On the last thread I joked about the Russian deployment of T55 tanks meant that chariots would be next except for the lack of horses. The Russians are getting 3000 horses.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1642369190932754438

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 02/04/2023 23:07

I rather fear the horses will end up as dinner. How the hell can invaders look after 3k horses?

Surplus2requirements · 02/04/2023 23:08

That's going to have the Leopard crews worried

PerkingFaintly · 02/04/2023 23:11

Is April Fools Day running late this year?

L1ttledrummergirl · 02/04/2023 23:51

Those poor horses. That's so fucking cruel and unnecessary. They really have learned nothing from history.

MagicFox · 03/04/2023 07:15

Prigozhin statement on the cafe blast (Nexta): ""Indeed, I gave the cafe to the patriotic movement KIBER FRONT Z, and they held various seminars there. This tragedy most likely occurred at the seminar. As for the death of Daria Dugina - yes, everything is similar. But I wouldn't blame the Kyiv regime for these actions. I think a group of radicals who are unlikely to have any connections with the government are acting."

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MagicFox · 03/04/2023 07:21

Sanna Marin ousted in Finland? @Natsku

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Natsku · 03/04/2023 07:29

MagicFox · 03/04/2023 07:21

Sanna Marin ousted in Finland? @Natsku

Yeah :( right wing have got into power and mostly will team up with the far right to make their government. Its depressing. Just glad the government got the NATO stuff through just in time so the new government can't fuck that up at least but don't know what it'll mean for sending support to Ukraine.

Zuffe · 03/04/2023 07:39

@Natsku Alarmed by a change of Government in Finland I looked up the NCP. Nothing about its political leaning vis-a-vis Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, membership of the EU or desire for Nato membership gives me any concern, or am I missing something?

Natsku · 03/04/2023 07:43

NCP is pro-NATO, has always been the pro-NATO party so its not them I'm concerned about but the Basic Finns who are most likely to become their partners in government and are not keen on helping anyone outside of Finland (or letting anyone into Finland either, so refugees are another concern). Also anti-EU so I bet they will push for FEXIT, urgh.

Natsku · 03/04/2023 07:44

Plus bound to decimate benefits and suchlike. Basically the next 4 years are going to be pretty horrid and the only bright side I can see is if it's bad enough it'll put voters off them for some time in the future.

Igotjelly · 03/04/2023 07:47

But yet we're still voting for the Tories 13 years later despite the utter shit show they've brought down on our heads. Its literally like an act of self-harm.

Zuffe · 03/04/2023 07:47

The Russian invasion must have played a big part in voters’ decisions. Why do you thing they voted for change (albeit a narrow one)?

Zuffe · 03/04/2023 07:49

Igotjelly · 03/04/2023 07:47

But yet we're still voting for the Tories 13 years later despite the utter shit show they've brought down on our heads. Its literally like an act of self-harm.

Many people I know who have voted conservative apart from the Blair 97 election are adamant they are not voting conservative in 2024/25. They have no idea who else to vote for so our next election is going to be interesting.

MagicFox · 03/04/2023 08:38

Thanks for explaining re the different parties @Natsku

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Natsku · 03/04/2023 08:42

Zuffe · 03/04/2023 07:47

The Russian invasion must have played a big part in voters’ decisions. Why do you thing they voted for change (albeit a narrow one)?

I think its more to do with all the shit that has happened over the last 4 years, crisis after crisis, that people are upset with the situation now (cost of living etc.) and the right, especially the Finns, have been very good at persuading them it's the government's fault rather than looking at how the government actually handled each crisis. The Finns have been really prevalent on social media too, especially tiktok, getting the younger vote and also campaign effectively to older people by sending out pamphlets in the post. NCP have probably gained from the Centre's lost votes which helped them. The left alliance probably lost votes for being anti-NATO.

Natsku · 03/04/2023 08:44

Igotjelly · 03/04/2023 07:47

But yet we're still voting for the Tories 13 years later despite the utter shit show they've brought down on our heads. Its literally like an act of self-harm.

What can I say? Brits are slow learners?
I jest. Just more tribal with the basically two party system i suppose. I think my dad might have finally been turned off voting Tory though, after a lifetime of voting for them.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/04/2023 10:59

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-2-2023

[Summary Abbreviated update in order to discuss the assassination of high-profile, heavily pro-Wagner Maksim Fomin, aka Vladlen Tatarsky by someone, and the implications that it's been a Russian governmental assassination due to his heavy criticism of the Kremlin]

[ Summary - a woman gave him a statue and 3 - 5 minutes later there was an explosions. He was killed, 30 audience members were wounded. It was an open-to-all presentation of Fomin's frontline experiences.

Naturally the Kremlin is blaming Ukraine.]

Prigozhin oddly stated on April 2 that he would not “blame the Kyiv regime” for the deaths of Fomin and Russian ultranationalist figure Daria Dugina, suggesting that Ukrainian agents were not in fact responsible

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/04/2023 11:00

arg, posted too soon sorry

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/04/2023 11:09

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-2-2023

[Summary Abbreviated update in order to discuss the assassination of high-profile, heavily pro-Wagner Maksim Fomin, aka Vladlen Tatarsky by someone, and the implications that it's been a Russian governmental assassination due to his heavy criticism of the Kremlin]

[ Summary - a woman gave him a statue and 3 - 5 minutes later there was an explosions. He was killed, 30 audience members were wounded. It was an open-to-all presentation of Fomin's frontline experiences.

Naturally the Kremlin is blaming Ukraine.]

"Prigozhin oddly stated on April 2 that he would not “blame the Kyiv regime” for the deaths of Fomin and Russian ultranationalist figure Daria Dugina, suggesting that Ukrainian agents were not in fact responsible"

Unknown actors killed Russian milblogger Maksim Fomin in a deliberate and targeted attack during an event in a St. Petersburg bar reportedly belonging to Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin on April 2.

Russian officials and propagandists have accused Ukraine of staging a “terrorist attack” to assassinate Fomin.

Fomin was a prominent figure in the Russian pro-war nationalist information space, although not more so than some others

Fomin’s assassination at Prigozhin’s bar is likely part of a larger pattern of escalating Russian internal conflicts involving Prigozhin and Wagner.

Russian officials may be intending to use Fomin’s assassination to drive the self-censorship of a growing Russian civil society questioning the progress of the war in bars.

The assassination is already deepening a divide within the Russian milblogger space, which may ultimately be beneficial to the Kremlin’s efforts to consolidate control of the information space.

Key inflections in ongoing military operations on April 2:

  • Russian forces continued limited ground attacks along the Svatove-Kreminna line.[27] Russian sources claimed that Russian forces made marginal gains northwest of Kreminna.[28]
  • Russian forces continued to attack Bakhmut and its environs.[29] Russian forces likely seized the AZOM plant in northern Bakhmut as ISW has previously assessed. Ukrainian forces conducted a missile strike on the plant on April 2.[30]
  • Russian forces continued to conduct ground attacks along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.[31] Ukrainian Tavriisk Direction Forces Joint Press Center Spokesperson Oleksiy Dmytrashkivskyi stated that Russian forces retreated from unspecified positions in the Donetsk direction.[32]
  • Ukrainian forces conducted a HIMARS strike against a rail depot in Melitopol, Zaporizhia Oblast, the third strike against the city in the past week.[33]
  • The UK Ministry of Defense assessed that a significant minority of Russia’s 200,000 casualties in Ukraine are due to poor discipline and training outside of combat, including due to excessive alcohol consumption and mishandling of small arms.[34]
  • Former Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) official Rodion Miroshnik denied ISW’s April 1 report citing Miroshnik that Russian authorities are deporting Ukrainian children to Russia under rest-and-rehabilitation schemes.[35] Miroshnik claimed that mothers and children from Horlivka, Donetsk Oblast went to Russian sanitoriums for medical treatment.[36] Miroshnik denied being closely affiliated with the current occupation regime, claiming that he has not served as advisor to the Head of the LNR for a year.[37] LNR People’s Militia Press Service called Miroshnik “advisor to the LNR Head” as recently as January 29, 2023, however.[38] Miroshnik claimed on his Telegram channel that he served as LNR Ambassador to Russia as recently as November 13, 2022.[39]
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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/04/2023 11:16

Kyiv Independent Telegram

⚡️ Russia's Wagner Group mercenary company now comparable (https://kyivindependent.com/military-wagner-group-boasts-army-size-equal-to-hungary-slovakia/) to armies of Hungary, Slovakia, according to Ukrainian military spokesman.
For context, Slovakia’s Armed Forces number 19,000 personnel, and Hungary’s have 40,000 troops, according to the World Bank 2019 data.

⚡️Defense Ministry: Russia lost 4,000 soldiers (https://kyivindependent.com/defense-ministry-russia-lost-4000-soldiers-over-past-week/) in Ukraine over the past week.

⚡️UK Defense Ministry: Second group of Ukrainian soldiers completes training (https://kyivindependent.com/uk-defense-ministry-second-group-of-ukrainian-soldiers-completes-training-on-as90-howitzers/) on AS-90 howitzers.

⚡️Blinken demands ‘immediate release’ (https://kyivindependent.com/blinken-demands-immediate-release-of-detained-us-reporter-in-a-phone-call-with-lavrov/) of detained US reporter in a phone call with Lavrov.

High-profile Russian propagandist killed in in St Petersburg cafe.
(https://kyivindependent.com/high-profile-russian-propagandist-killed-in-explosion/)
An explosion in a cafe in the center of St. Petersburg killed Russian propagandist and war correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky and injured 15 others on April 2, Russian media reported.
The number of injuries as a result of the explosion at a cafe in central St. Petersburg on April 2 has risen to 30, CNN reported, citing Russian media.

⚡️Minority rights concerns rebuked (https://kyivindependent.com/hungarian-official-visits-ukraine-told-there-is-no-oppression-of-hungarian-minorities/) as Hungarian deputy foreign minister visits Ukraine.
Ukrainian officials in Zakarpattia Oblast told (https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/news/2023/04/2/7159074/?ref=kyivindependent.com) visiting Hungarian deputy foreign minister, Levente Magyar, that the Hungarian minority in Ukraine is not being oppressed.

⚡️Moscow Patriarchate church (https://kyivindependent.com/moscow-patriarchate-church-where-ukrainian-soldier-was-attacked-holds-first-religious-service-in-ukrainian/) where Ukrainian soldier was attacked holds first religious service in Ukrainian.

Russia will place the tactical nuclear weapons that it plans to deploy in Belarus closer to Belarus's western borders, Russian ambassador in Minsk, Boris Gryzlov, told Belarusian TV on April 2.

⚡️Polish minister: Decision (https://kyivindependent.com/polish-minister-decision-to-send-fighter-jets-to-ukraine-an-example-for-other-countries/) to send fighter jets to Ukraine 'an example for other countries.'
The minister singled out Germany, arguing that Berlin is often preoccupied with formality and procedures over practical action that would help Ukraine.

⚡️Zelensky to visit (https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-to-visit-poland-on-april-5/) Poland on April 5.

⚡️12 killed, 32 injured as Russia attacks (https://kyivindependent.com/12-killed-32-injured-as-russia-attacks-7-ukrainian-regions-over-past-24-hours/) 7 Ukrainian regions over past 24 hours

⚡️Official: Poland delivers (https://kyivindependent.com/official-poland-delivers-first-mig-29-jets-to-ukraine/) first MiG-29 jets to Ukraine.

⚡️Mayor: Explosion in Melitopol injures (https://kyivindependent.com/mayor-explosion-in-melitopol-injures-collaborator/) collaborator.
A car was blown up in the Russian-occupied city of Melitopol, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, on the morning of April 3, wounding local collaborator Maksym Zubariev, reported exiled Mayor Ivan Fedorov.

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Igotjelly · 03/04/2023 13:17

Jens Stoltenberg has confirmed that Finland will officially join NATO tomorrow. 🇫🇮

Zuffe · 03/04/2023 13:32

It looks as if the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade may well follow in the footsteps of the Roman Legion IX, simply disappear through continual defeat in a foreign land.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/04/2023 13:43

"Gerasimov, give me back my legions!"

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