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I feel a bit shit about giving birth now - I missed the 'golden hour'

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Silverlog · 15/03/2023 18:58

I've just been reading in the news about how important the golden hour is for your newborn. To have it laid on your chest skin-to-skin for the first hour. I was absolutely pie-faced on drugs giving birth and I was hallucinating too. It took me 3 days to come down to earth again afterwards, I was zombied-out. I'm actually really unhappy about the amount of drugs I was given. (The reason was that nothing gave pain-relief, all 8 epidurals were like water, no effect). I was given a lot of different stuff.

Having given birth, baby was wrapped up, shown to me & handed to dad, where she stayed whilst I was stitched. Very soon I was fast asleep after a 3 day labour.

I know it doesn't matter now as she's grown, but how I wish it'd been different.

OP posts:
Mandyjack · 16/03/2023 19:17

I think there are lots of Mum who didn't get it. My daughter was put into a crib and left over the other side of the room whilst I lay there waiting to be stitched up. My husband decided to dash off the minute she came out (still not forgiven him for that!) but he did come back later. Things were different then though and there wasn't really birth plans like you have now etc

RosieFoxRox · 16/03/2023 19:44

I had “golden hour” in an exhausted state and still developed severe post partum depression and rejected my baby… (I received specialist in patient treatment in a mum and baby unit and did bond with my son eventually… so whilst I got golden hour, I didn’t get the first 6months of his life properly - including missing his first Christmas. He’s now 13 and the absolute light of my life!) it’s taken a lot of counselling to be ok with this not being my fault… my point is… it’s not everything - and instagram lies!

incywincyspidery · 16/03/2023 20:41

Well they didn't overly prioritise that years ago and parents and babies bonded just fine.

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Morgysmum · 16/03/2023 20:49

Don't beat yourself up. There is a lot of stuff thrown at new mums which isn't all true.
First, if you bottle feed, they will end up wearing glasses and have bad skin. However my partner was breastfeed and he has both glasses and bad skin.
Then there's, you fail your child if you have a C-section. They will end up fat and thick.
My son was born by C-section, he has got his mock results. He is in line for 1A 4b's so not thick.
I stressed over stuff like this and I had a miserable few months after I gave birth.
So don't dwell on it.

BluesandClues · 16/03/2023 20:54

Honestly, these days if you so much as glance in the direction of something odd looking the child will be doomed.

Didn’t do the golden hour with either of mine, they had a cuddle and a feed and had I had my bits sewn up. Neither seem to have suffered from lack of it.

Feelridiculous · 16/03/2023 21:12

I missed the golden hour as I was😒ill with sepsis. I then threw up in recovery, felt well enough to hold my baby and feed him for a bit. He was then whipped away to Nicu for bloods. He's a fine chap, took me a long time to come to terms with it but ultimately I grew him, then squeezed him out, whilst very ill and that's the important thing 🤣

There's so much pressure on women, there's too many variables in life to be "perfect" and someone else who held their baby for the golden hour will be fretting about something else. Be kind to yourself and tell that pressure to bog off! It'll do far more harm than not holding your baby for that hour. The sleep will have also done far more good to you being able to parent x

Babooshka1990 · 16/03/2023 21:32

I understand as my birth didn’t go how I wanted either. To be honest I cry about it regularly 5 months on. Have you looked at the service where you go over birth notes?

I had a prolonged labour and was in lots of pain, they offered me pethidine after 15 hours saying I ‘needed a rest’. I didn’t want anything that crossed the barrier which was in birth plan but they didn’t look at this, and I wasn’t understanding what it was when they injected me. It didn’t even help with the pain but made me throw up and become incoherent, and basically hysterical and scared. I also have so much guilt as it went through to my baby, who slept for ages after birth. And I’m pissed off as it didn’t help.

The midwife was horrible no regard for what I was asking or trying to communicate, she kept telling me
off (for things like changing position).

Everything I planned for in hypnobirthing class seemed to go out of the window, the calm water birth I wanted turned into being shouted at, then eventually surgery, forceps and episiotomy.

BanoffeeBoat · 16/03/2023 21:38

@ladygindiva Romanian orphans were left alone tied up in cots from birth up to their teen years. Their hideous experience and outcome was to emotional and physical neglect that went on for their entire childhood. Bugger all to do with the golden hour. I agree with pp it is more shite to beat women up with and I refuse to engage with it.

Yes, that's my point. I was responding to a PP who had said a person's initial or early experience of the world does impact the way they perceive the world later in life. I was saying: yes, maybe, in extreme cases like the Romanian orphans, but certainly NOT in the case described in the OP, nor in the cases throughout the thread where babies spend their early hours being resuscitated and spend the rest of their childhood in loving families.
Apologies if it seemed like I was equating missing out on the 'Golden Hour' with the experiences of the Romanian orphans; my intention was the opposite!

DrSK2 · 16/03/2023 22:00

Sorry to say but I cannot understand the point in insisting on normal birth for 3 days while there is an easier and less painful option (c section).

Blossomtoes · 16/03/2023 22:32

DrSK2 · 16/03/2023 22:00

Sorry to say but I cannot understand the point in insisting on normal birth for 3 days while there is an easier and less painful option (c section).

You don’t need to understand other people’s choices.

Boysgrownbutstillathome · 16/03/2023 22:49

Nimbostratus100 · 15/03/2023 19:05

WHo says the golden hour has to be at birth? The first time you were with it enough to hold and love your new baby was your golden hour

Thank you for this ❤

lordloveadog · 16/03/2023 23:09

My DS2 was blue lighted to hospital with my DH moments after he was born. I was stitched up, had a shower, a good night's sleep, and went to collect them in the morning. It wasn't textbook, but it was also fine. Now I've had nearly 12.5 years with the lovely little person he is.

But with both my children I sometimes have moments of thinking why didn't I do more skin to skin, more cuddling.

So I cuddle them now. They're big, but they still like to know their mother loves them, just as much as when they were tiddly.

Now is the time we have.

sussexpud · 17/03/2023 00:03

please don't worry about this. Golden hour 🙄.... this sounds a lot like the ole breast is best propaganda. The damage done by this messaging...

pollymere · 17/03/2023 00:19

It sounds like total pants to me. However, my husband took pics of me when I was in my post-op sleep out on morphine...and there are several of me with my baby asleep on my chest. I suspect you may have been given the opportunity but been too off your face to notice...

adriftinadenofvipers · 17/03/2023 00:46

Please ladies, don't let this utter shite upset you in any way!! I'm sorry but I think it's total bollocks.

Nearly 26 years since I had my first baby and nearly 20 since I had my last. All 3 elective c/sections for medical reasons (it appeared I had an inadequate pelvis to push out babies ranging from 8lbs 5, to 9lbs 7.5. I briefly felt, with my first, that I hadn't actually given birth but someone had 'done it for me' and then I realised that it didn't matter if your baby was extracted via your ear.

No skin to skin at all - they'd had a wipe down and wrapped up in a blanket before I held them and they were all taken away while I was in recovery. I may or may not have said that DC2 wasn't actually a baby, but a small turkey...😅

I am so fortunate, I could not have a closer relationship with my children. The elder two went off into the world for study/work but both have drifted back home temporarily, and will always be welcome. Youngest now in uni. They hug me every day and we express our love for each other verbally too. They are there for me and they know I am always there for them.

So, get stuffed 'golden hour'!! It's meaningless crap!!

Longdarkteatimeofthesoul · 17/03/2023 01:02

I too had a bit of a traumatic time during the birth of DS who was overdue and induced but didnt want to make any kind of entrance and then after much intervention was born not breathing and the midwife put him on my chest. I knew from the blueish tinge and the general panic in the room he wasnt breathing and remembering yelling at them to do something. He was whisked away for an indeterminate length of time and eventually given back breathing but to this day I remember the panic of being handed a baby not breathing as this shite about first skin to skin contact is so heavily promoted. It was actually in my birth plan for my second child (not that that went to plan either Lol) that if baby was born not breathing to not give to me until they were!!!

DS turned 18 a couple of days ago and our bond has always been super close - no different to DD who was born breathing and got more skin to skin contact with! Interestingly the ward was super busy that day and I waited hours for coffee and toast as they sort of forgot I was there and all I could think about was getting my toast (not DD)!

Hatscats · 17/03/2023 01:13

It’s an ideal - not always possible in an emergency. I’ve plastered it all over my birth preferences though - do not clean it wrap my baby even if I’m in theatre, I want them straight to me, dad can do skin to skin etc.
And if it doesn’t happen then it’s not too late to do it even weeks and months down the line, have a bath with them, skin to skin can be used for months after, just in bed feeding and cuddling. I did it on the post natal ward too - helps breastfeeding and helps regulate temperature. Was suggested by midwife when she went a bit sleepy after birth.

BarnacleNora · 17/03/2023 03:40

My first birth was horrendous. Really truly awful. To the point where when they finally got me to my emergency c section we weren't actually sure if they were going to be getting out a live baby his heartbeat had become so erratic and difficult to find. Thankfully he was alive but I literally saw a tiny bit of his nose as he was flashed in my general direction and then rushed to NICU. We nearly lost him his second night here as well and had to be taken to the dreaded side room for the most awful conversation I've ever had.

Anyway, whilst they were busy trying to medicate him and insert tubes and lines and all sorts I was on another floor of the hospital waiting for my spinal block to wear off. My sole contribution to his first day on earth was a midwife grabbing my breasts and hand expressing some colostrum to put into his nasal feeding tube. I didn't even get to see him until 24 hours had passed and I was told I wasn't allowed to touch him by the most callous HCA I've ever come across. Holding him took another 12 hours. For the rest of the week he stayed hooked up to tubes and monitors on the floor below me. I would be fetched every time he cried and have to make my way as quick as I could down the stairs, wait to be let into the secure NICU (there never seemed to be anyone manning the buzzer either) and pray that he hadn't been getting too distressed in the time it had taken me. There was definitely no 'golden hour' for him!

By contrast, my second baby (an ELCS) was brought straight from my stomach and onto my chest. I had my gown on backwards so there was no barrier between my skin and his. All monitoring equipment was placed out of the way, oximeter on my big toe etc so there was nothing to get tangled up or impede our contact. He stayed tucked into my chest throughout my being sewn up and whilst I was wheeled into recovery. After maybe half an hour/forty minutes he adjusted himself and performed the 'newborn breast crawl' (this is a real thing, search for it on YouTube, my mum who was my birth partner was amazed!) and latched himself on and started feeding before falling asleep. He stayed in my arms for most of that night until exhaustion took over and I had to put him down (still asleep) so I could get some sleep myself.

Now....that second experience was certainly very healing for me. I can empathise completely with the feelings of distress and upset from a traumatic first birth. I had nightmares about it for so long and really really struggled to see photos of friends post birth or hear their birth stories. It is a very real thing to suffer from the lingering effects of not having your baby with you having gone through all the struggle of birth. The guilt stayed with me too even though it wasn't my fault and it certainly wasn't yours!

However.....I PROMISE you. My two babies, born into very different situations, have not had any lingering effects as to whether they had that golden hour or not. Honestly! They're not really 'conscious' straight after birth. They are tiny little balls of sensation and sound, they can't even see properly. Your baby may not have been with you but she WAS with someone. She was looked after. She was kept warm and dry and fed and comfortable and had soothing sounds murmured to her, all the things she needed. And then, once you were better she had you! And I bet you were fabulous! And you grew her for nine months, she would have instinctively recognised your smell, your voice, your heartbeat.

Please don't beat yourself up over something you couldn't have changed or done differently. I do think stuff like this is just another thing for people to beat themselves up with. What are people going to do with this 'golden hour' knowledge? Say 'god I'm glad I know about this now. I was going to pop the baby in the corner as soon as I'd given birth and have a look at them once I'd caught up on my book. Labour really cut into my reading time'. Obviously people are going to hold and cuddle their babies as soon as they've birthed them unless exceptional circumstances mean they can't!

FrenchFancie · 17/03/2023 07:39

I’m not massively bothered by this - I was trying my hardest to die during golden hour, haemorrhaging all over the place and then being rushed into emergency surgery - I think I finally got to hold her about 4 hours after she was born.she is now a happy confident 10 year old. Not sure what difference it would have made TBH (slightly less stroppy would be good, but hormones are a wonderful thing lol…)

SillyOldBucket · 17/03/2023 08:21

In the long term, it really doesn't matter. I'd never heard of the golden hour. I gave birth to twins; one was whisked straight down into NICU as barely alive and although I was given the other to hold, she also was taken down to neo-natal after a couple of hours and I didn't see them again until the next afternoon. It was days before I was able to hold them. Heartbreaking at the time but I certainly don't feel guilty about it. Going straight down to NICU saved their lives and I have very strong bonds with two gorgeous 15-year-olds.

Scorpiothistle · 17/03/2023 08:55

Thank you for this thread.
I have been dealing with mum guilt for the last 10yrs; After a very long & complicated journey ttc, we took photos of the pregnancy every week, but all but 1 photo got lost :'-( Then, after an emergency section and 3 days of labour, I was so tired that when he was put on my chest I complained that he was too heavy. I didn't get any photos of me with him in hospital - it's almost like someone else gave birth to him. After all this time, I've finally realised that it doesn't matter. I have my memories and he is growing into a wonderful young man.

RavenofEngland · 17/03/2023 10:09

My son was born in the middle of the night. I suddenly woke up in my pyjamas and he was on his way. we didn’t do skin to skin straight away either. I was still wearing my T-shirt when he was placed on me, but that didn’t stop me from bonding with him. I did however have trouble breastfeeding because he kept refusing to latch onto me and ended up having to give him a bottle. On top of that I was exhausted from lack of sleep, so all I wanted to do was go back to bed. My daughter was born around 5:30 in the morning and it was so quick. With her I did attempt to breastfeed straight away so we did have skin to skin quite soon after she was born. Again, she pretty much refused my boob and I had to give her a bottle so that I could take her home. Both my kids have grown to be wonderful, caring, young people, and I certainly don’t think that the lack of this so-called golden hour has affected them in the slightest.

Happyjoyjoy · 17/03/2023 17:56

I think skin to skin is great for those mothers that are physically up for it but for a huge number of mothers it's a dreadful idea. With ds1 following 3 solid days of intense labour induced via drip, multiple epidurals, gas and air and a cocktail of drugs to then have your baby landed on top of you when you are beyond knackered is potentially dangerous for the baby and unfair on the mother. I was left in a side room on a 5ft high bed with no access to a buzzer on my own covered in blood for hours. It's overwhelming and not a pleasant memory. My experiences with my other two children weren't much better but in different ways.

mumofone1809 · 17/03/2023 23:06

I wouldn’t worry about it too much, I think it’s just another unrealistic expectation pushed onto mums!

My delivery was quite the opposite in regards to pain relief, being I had none and even then the second they put her on me, I kindly asked for her to be taken off and given to my partner, I was so pre occupied I don’t think I even held her for the first hour (it sounds terrible now, but I’m certain I was actually shoved in the shower by DP before I even held her!!) it’s all such a blur at the time I don’t think it makes any real difference in the grand scheme of things x

Stewball01 · 18/03/2023 07:26

I feel uncomfortable saying this. I had relatively easy births. He came 2 hours after I got to the hospital. She 15 minutes. The actual business wasn't pleasant. Here they tied your legs up .20 to a room with curtains between us. Any Tom, dick or Harry could walk through with us showing our beauty spots. No holding of baby. But 4 days in hospital with just feeding them and then peace.
But that was over 50 years ago. A lot different now.

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