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What is going on at the BBC right now?

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LookItsMeAgain · 10/03/2023 17:42

What with the news breaking today ( 10/03/23) that Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day and now Ian Wright is also not going to appear on the show in solidarity. They also have said that they will not air a David Attenborough (what the hell did he do/say that pushed their buttons) episode due to fears of a right-wing backlash. On top of that, Fiona Bruce has said that Stanley Johnson 'only' broke his wife's nose once (I mean just how many times is too many, I ask ye).

What the hell is going on at the BBC right now????

Sources:
David Attenborough being cancelled
Gary Lineker stepping back from MotD
Ian Wright standing by Gary
Fiona Bruce story

Just wondering if anyone can make sense of what is going on in the BBC at the moment.

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MarshaBradyo · 12/03/2023 09:48

SerendipityJane · 12/03/2023 09:38

Generally, in Italian, feminine names end in "a" and masculine "o" or "i". Not a universal, but it does make Giorgio and Giorgia quite different.

Some foreign tongues have a built in immunity to this pronoun bollocks.

True o usually male

Re extreme yes the drownings are extreme, trafficking is extreme, so I’d like to see the boats stop

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 10:43

@GPTec1 Left, Right and centre are all acknowledged terms in politics, its not controversial.

I would say it is.

My MP is so far Left they are coming back on themselves and could do a good impersonation of a corkscrew.

The good people of Kegworth are protesting against the use of the only hotel in the area for asylum seekers, causing the loss of swimming pool facilities for the children, weddings and conferences cancelled, all the staff sacked etc.

My MP calls such people 'Far Right Extremists' ( ! )

So if you want to see a group of militant, ignorant, racist, knuckle-dragging Fascists see this link below (sarcasm)

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/live-kegworth-hotel-protest-over-8220895

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 10:50

@Moonicorn Right wingers 🙄 I mean, does ‘right wing’ mean anything any more bar ‘disagreeing in any form with an accepted leftist view’?

You got it.

Anyone whose political views are one compass degree right of Karl Marx are regarded as racist, homophobic, xenophobis, fascist, transphobic bigots.

And God help you if you are female because then you're a TERF as well !!

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 11:52

Latest news !

MOTD viewing figures up 2.5 million last night - so who needs Lineker?

My DH watched it for the first time in ages and said it was much better with no annoying music and just pure football, instead of pundits rambling on about who kicked what with what foot.

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-match-day-viewing-figures-29435870

woodhill · 12/03/2023 11:55

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 10:43

@GPTec1 Left, Right and centre are all acknowledged terms in politics, its not controversial.

I would say it is.

My MP is so far Left they are coming back on themselves and could do a good impersonation of a corkscrew.

The good people of Kegworth are protesting against the use of the only hotel in the area for asylum seekers, causing the loss of swimming pool facilities for the children, weddings and conferences cancelled, all the staff sacked etc.

My MP calls such people 'Far Right Extremists' ( ! )

So if you want to see a group of militant, ignorant, racist, knuckle-dragging Fascists see this link below (sarcasm)

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/live-kegworth-hotel-protest-over-8220895

Yes that is awful. Again at the expense of the people who live there and use the facilities

I don't think they should be put up in hotels in the first place perhaps army barracks or detention centres

Blossomtoes · 12/03/2023 12:11

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 10:43

@GPTec1 Left, Right and centre are all acknowledged terms in politics, its not controversial.

I would say it is.

My MP is so far Left they are coming back on themselves and could do a good impersonation of a corkscrew.

The good people of Kegworth are protesting against the use of the only hotel in the area for asylum seekers, causing the loss of swimming pool facilities for the children, weddings and conferences cancelled, all the staff sacked etc.

My MP calls such people 'Far Right Extremists' ( ! )

So if you want to see a group of militant, ignorant, racist, knuckle-dragging Fascists see this link below (sarcasm)

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/live-kegworth-hotel-protest-over-8220895

According to that link there were 100 fewer protesters than last week. And their MP is Andrew Bridgen who’s so off the wall that the Conservative Party booted him out. Bear in mind that the apparently diminishing number of protesters undoubtedly voted for him.

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 13:18

Blossomtoes · 12/03/2023 12:11

According to that link there were 100 fewer protesters than last week. And their MP is Andrew Bridgen who’s so off the wall that the Conservative Party booted him out. Bear in mind that the apparently diminishing number of protesters undoubtedly voted for him.

I don't know what you mean by "off the wall" but Mr Bridgen isn't a 'yes man' and speaks his mind on various issues.

His constituents no doubt respect him for that, however, the Government find this incompatible with Tory Policy, so it's right he should go and be independent.
He lost the Tory Whip over some Covid comments - nothing to do with immigration.

I can remember one Tory MP years ago, who was tipped to be the next Chancellor of the Exchequer voting against Maggie on one issue. That resulted in his career going down the khazi. Dissenting takes courage.

How many protesters are there is really irrelevant - once you've made your protest and got the media coverage for the issue, you've really achieved your objective.

countrygirl99 · 12/03/2023 13:25

The Andrew Bridgen who compared covid vaccines to the holocaust?
The Andrew Bridgen who breached rules about lobbying and declaring interests?
The Andrew Bridgen who lied under oath about his family business?

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2023 13:32

There is an army barracks in my region that's been earmarked. Literally everyone thinks its a shit idea. The nearest shop is several miles down an A road. There are no bus routes . The nearest village is small with a tiny GP, no dentist and a full primary school. The nearest supermarket is 9 miles away . No transport.

And to top it all off, they have now discovered the land is probably contaminated.

ancientgran · 12/03/2023 13:33

NiceHotCuppaCoffee · 11/03/2023 13:45

I think it's just over 70% of the US population is unfit for combat.

It's mostly men who can win a war.

Women suffer sexism from society and the NHS (charhing women via tax yet blocking them access via Anbexe B) so are often unanle or unfit to fight, the (uterus havers and chest feeders) are often pregnant and feeding another human so can't fight, they are also likely abandoned by almost everyone if they or a child is sick, so have disproportionate care responsibilities. Not many women compared to men will be able to fight in many countries with worse healthcare.

I shall leave the inhumane male supremacy Foucault fans like Lineker, who don't want to take responsibility for the damage they cause, to it, their hurt ego matters more than the collateral damage they inflict on others.

Well that's a bit of a mix. I'm in the UK but I thought the asylum seekers who "should" be home fighting for freedom weren't from the US so not sure what the relevance of that is.

Again with the NHS, are many asylum seekers are coming from countries where they are cared for by the NHS? Not sure how that is relevant either, I don't think any women in war torn countries are worried about sexism in the NHS.

Women are often pregnant? How often is often? There are women fighting in the Ukraine but I haven't seen any in maternity fatigues.

Regardless of any of that why is the expectation that men should fight, what if they aren't fit either, what if they are a singe parent or responsible for elderly parents, what if they are a pacifist - I suppose you'd be out handing them white feathers.

ancientgran · 12/03/2023 13:38

Moonicorn · 11/03/2023 14:15

Oh please.

Who accompanies the children/elderly? Who is the safer demographic to send to other countries as refugees? Which sex is most likely to be raped by members of their own army? Of course if women wish to enlist they should be able to, but conscription for women should never be mandatory. You’re being so incredibly naive.

So why should it be mandatory for men? Do you think men all want to fight or is it just that women should have a right to tell them to fight?

Do you think women will be safe on the current routes to Britain? I wonder how many end up raped and trafficked and are even more at risk if their male partner/father/brother can't travel with them.

ancientgran · 12/03/2023 13:42

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/03/2023 14:54

The best way to reduce the number of Asylum Seekers in hotels is to process their claims in an efficient and timely way so they can work and contribute to UK society.

I say that as a poor, working class woman who lives in the inner city, close to a number of Asylum hotels housing men, women and children.

Absolutely this, we have a labour shortage but we refuse to allow these people to work. Most of them are found to have a right to claim asylum but they are spending years waiting for permission to work and are then demonised for not working and taking benefits. Talk about Catch 22.

User135644 · 12/03/2023 13:51

VenAqui · 10/03/2023 17:52

They’re so scared about upsetting their Tory crones.
won’t show the final Attenborough episode because it’s about water pollution, want to slap Lineker’s wrist but Fiona Bruce is allowed to say whatever she wants to every week.

i fucking hate the beeb right now.

The BBC lost me with the way they treated Corbyn. Not that i'm a big fan of his but he was given far more scrutiny than they have the government for 13 years and that Panorama was an absolute stitch up and much of it absolute lies.

GoodChat · 12/03/2023 13:59

Oh shit they got half a million more views with no host apple.news/Ahdc8sxBVRAmX3PYwnq5AaQ

🤣🤣🤣

borntobequiet · 12/03/2023 14:09

countrygirl99 · 12/03/2023 13:25

The Andrew Bridgen who compared covid vaccines to the holocaust?
The Andrew Bridgen who breached rules about lobbying and declaring interests?
The Andrew Bridgen who lied under oath about his family business?

The Andrew Bridgen who said that as a U.K. citizen he was entitled to an Irish passport?

BaconAndAvocado · 12/03/2023 14:59

I think this was pure curiosity because of the current goings on.
I wouldn’t usually watch it but did last night.

GPTec1 · 12/03/2023 15:05

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 10:43

@GPTec1 Left, Right and centre are all acknowledged terms in politics, its not controversial.

I would say it is.

My MP is so far Left they are coming back on themselves and could do a good impersonation of a corkscrew.

The good people of Kegworth are protesting against the use of the only hotel in the area for asylum seekers, causing the loss of swimming pool facilities for the children, weddings and conferences cancelled, all the staff sacked etc.

My MP calls such people 'Far Right Extremists' ( ! )

So if you want to see a group of militant, ignorant, racist, knuckle-dragging Fascists see this link below (sarcasm)

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/live-kegworth-hotel-protest-over-8220895

Of course the flaw in your argument is that all of this is happening under the most right wing Government we ve ever had.

Even Priti Patel is lobbying against Braverman's 'bill in regard to abused and trafficked refugees.

The Tories have years to build better detention centres but the one they did build was riddled with disease and abuse, hence the totally inappropriate use of Hotels.

They of course they gave us Brexit, so understandably the EU aren't interested in our problems.

GPTec1 · 12/03/2023 15:09

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 11:52

Latest news !

MOTD viewing figures up 2.5 million last night - so who needs Lineker?

My DH watched it for the first time in ages and said it was much better with no annoying music and just pure football, instead of pundits rambling on about who kicked what with what foot.

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-match-day-viewing-figures-29435870

Wasn't MOTD just 20 mins long last night? and the viewing figures, last night, were the same as just 3 months ago.

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 16:10

@GPTec1 Of course the flaw in your argument is that all of this is happening under the most right wing Government we ve ever had.

Did you just copy that ^ out of The Guardian?
Obviously you don't remember Maggie Thatcher?

I don't know what part of Priti Pate's lobbying you refer to. If she was lobbying then that's her right if she doesn't agree. Do you think MPs should be 'sheeple ?'

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 16:24

GPTec1 · 12/03/2023 15:09

Wasn't MOTD just 20 mins long last night? and the viewing figures, last night, were the same as just 3 months ago.

  1. Yes, possibly.
  2. Nov 5th 2022 the figures were 2.63 million.
  3. March 4th 2023 the viewing figures were 2.09 million
  4. March 11th 2023 viewing figures were 2.58 million.

I don't know what point you're trying to make 🤔

GPTec1 · 12/03/2023 16:29

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 16:10

@GPTec1 Of course the flaw in your argument is that all of this is happening under the most right wing Government we ve ever had.

Did you just copy that ^ out of The Guardian?
Obviously you don't remember Maggie Thatcher?

I don't know what part of Priti Pate's lobbying you refer to. If she was lobbying then that's her right if she doesn't agree. Do you think MPs should be 'sheeple ?'

I don't recall Thatcher taking us out of the EU ?, let alone refusing to join the SM or deporting trafficked women and children.
Real terms benefit payouts were way higher under the Tories in the 80s.

Or Thatcher denying climate change, she actually did a very good speech on the subject, people like Baker, ReesMogg would never have been in the party under her.
Ex Ministers under Major and Thatcher despise the direction of the Cons, Stephen Dorrell, Ken Clark, Heseltine, most moderate MPs are not even in the party now, kicked out after Brexit.

Or promising 40 new hospitals and building none (at least under Thatcher we got a brand new district hospital)

Thatcher wouldn't even get selected as a candidate in a byelection today.

If even someone like Patel is against Braverman's plans, that should tell us all something shouldn't it?

But the point still stands, all what you hate about migration isn't happening under Corbyn or Starmer, its happening under your lot.

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 16:29

Notaflippinclue · 11/03/2023 16:20

Nobody will explain why we use hotels and the French, Italians Greeks etc use tents

Because the weather is better in those countries?

Seventytwosunsetstrip · 12/03/2023 16:31

@GPTec1 But the point still stands, all what you hate about migration isn't happening under Corbyn or Starmer, its happening under your lot

Why do you assume they are "my lot" ?

dimorphism · 12/03/2023 16:42

I don't necessarily think these things are related nor that they've been accurately reported.

It seems with the David Attenborough thing there was a series commissioned and then an additional 'episode'/ film was produced with a number of charities which was not part of the series but intended to be released alongside via iplayer. And there has been no change to that plan. Given most people don't watch live any more anyway, I'm not sure really what difference it makes. If they were trying to 'silence' debate surely the easiest thing would have been not to platform this film at all?

Fiona Bruce - her comment was badly worded but it was live, not scripted and I think she was trying to clarify what had happened rather than pass a value judgement. It wasn't good but It seems a bit harsh to 'kill the witch' over a one off, live remark. Has she clarified what she said at all? I highly doubt she would have intended to minimise male violence. I also think, given it was a live show, that it was more likely to be her getting it wrong rather than a command from on high from the Beeb management to minimise male violence.

With refugees - there is no nuance in the debate and local people are being ignored. If GL really wants to support the refugees how about he builds a centre for them where they can be properly housed while being processed near his home? He has enough money to do so several times over. But no, he'd rather say not do (unlike other footballers who actually DO things with their wealth). I don't think the government are getting it right but I think the extreme polarisation of the debate so that schoolgirls who say male refugees have sexually assaulted them are cast as right wing bigots doesn't really help anyone (including the refugees) much.

Having said all this, I gave up on the BBC ages ago (their choice not to safeguard children from Savile - despite very many people speaking up- sealed the deal for me once I became informed about it) and haven't paid my licence for years - you just sign a declaration and it just means you can't watch live tv (which I didn't anyway) or iplayer. Anything I want to see on iplayer is usually available on another paid platform eventually.

If you don't like the BBC, just don't pay for it or watch it anymore. Many other methods of obtaining news and entertainment are available. Alongside other sources, I quite like Al Jazeera for news - provides a different perspective which I think can be very beneficial.

Blossomtoes · 12/03/2023 16:46

countrygirl99 · 12/03/2023 13:25

The Andrew Bridgen who compared covid vaccines to the holocaust?
The Andrew Bridgen who breached rules about lobbying and declaring interests?
The Andrew Bridgen who lied under oath about his family business?

Yeah, that Andrew Bridgen but he’s never said anything about immigration (allegedly) so he’s obviously an all round good guy.

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