What is going on at the BBC right now?

[LookItsMeAgain]

What with the news breaking today ( 10/03/23) that Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day and now Ian Wright is also not going to appear on the show in solidarity. They also have said that they will not air a David Attenborough (what the hell did he do/say that pushed their buttons) episode due to fears of a right-wing backlash. On top of that, Fiona Bruce has said that Stanley Johnson 'only' broke his wife's nose once (I mean just how many times is too many, I ask ye).

What the hell is going on at the BBC right now????

Sources:
David Attenborough being cancelled
Gary Lineker stepping back from MotD
Ian Wright standing by Gary
Fiona Bruce story

Just wondering if anyone can make sense of what is going on in the BBC at the moment.

I will repeat my question in the hope I get a sensible answer - if International Law on refugees/asylum seekers is the same all over Europe and even the world, how is it we took, in 2021 more Albanians than any other country apart from Canada?

www.worlddata.info/europe/albania/asylum.php

Trafficked women will be held in detention and deported to Rwanda/home country etc under Bravermans new 'bill, any asylum claims will be heard once they are out of the UK, trafficked children will be held in the UK until 18 and then deported to Rwanda.

I thought you supported all this?

I don't, it is utterly awful and i include trafficked men/boys in this too, one reason i support Linekers tweet, it is shining a light on some awful ideas.

But young men coming here to seek a better life? yes return back to Albania.

The UN convention on refugees is signed by countries, how that is put into law & and interpreted is up to the individual country.

I'd have thought that was obvious.

But young men coming here to seek a better life? yes return back to Albania.

So update is you want Albanian women to stay and men to be confined then returned.

Lucky the women didn’t get the chop as you knew a few people on holiday there.

If people want to stop the boats I don’t see any other way other than harsh measures.

All the safe routes as response sounds like magical thinking.

If you want boats to stop you need new law. If you don’t want them to stop just say.

No it's not obvious.

So you say other countries are choosing to interpret it differently?

If that is the case then we need to shift our interpretation.

Its good to know you now longer support Braverman's immigration bill & want trafficked women supported here in the UK & given asylum.

Economic migrants from Albania can, if they have relevant skills come to the UK via visa schemes.

I think we need harsh measures. So no point in being glad if you’re banking on that. I was amused by the I know people who holiday line, very mn.

I’ll ask those against

If it’s a choice between boats arriving and this new law which do you choose?

If that is the case then we need to shift our interpretation.

Is that a penny dropping ?

If it’s a choice between boats arriving and this new law which do you choose?
Those are not the only two choices though.
-changing lawful applications from overseas, or processing in France, for a start.

Ok but as soon as you put a limit on you will still get boats arriving. And I assume most do want a limit, do you?

If so what do you do when the next desperate person contacts a smuggler and arrives in the U.K.?

If I was a plumber in Albania say £10 a day why not work here for £100 cash undercutting every plumber in the land. If I was a sex worker and could earn 10 times as much I wouldn't need to be trafficked but if I get caught I say I've been trafficked - how does the home office sort out the wheat from the chaff?

@MarshaBradyo
Processing centres, etc, will certainly limit numbers of boats coming, making those numbers more manageable when they do come.
The government’s continued hardline is hardly working, is it? And then there’s a small matter of international law.
It’s all smoke and mirrors by the government. They’re burning down the house to stuff a likely Labour government and get back into power as quickly as possible.
If you choose to believe their scaremongering propaganda, that’s your call. Worked so well with their Brexit promises, didn’t it?

I’m afraid you’ve got the wrong audience wrt Brexit I voted remain.

Although I do think the world is becoming more volatile with climate change and citizens will pressure governments to secure borders more and more.

The hardline isn’t hardline when you have to process any boat on arrival. I can’t see anything that would work other than a change in law.

I’m fine with setting up safe routes, say 40k to 80k safely sounds like something voters would accept. I just don’t think it will solve the boats issue. There will always be people desperate to pay. So people need to decide which they want.

If it’s a choice between boats arriving and this new law which do you choose?

Boats arriving + proper processing and returns please. I want the UK to remain in line with international law.

I don't want a hideous Australian-style system.

Nauru is a disgrace, the Tories take far too much policy advice from the Australian right.

Aus Labor still do this afaik so it’s bi partisan now

but conscription for women should never be mandatory.

It was in 1942. The precedent is there.

It isn’t 1942 now.

Did anyone say it was?

They leave the hotels because they’re off to work in cannabis farms 🤷🏼‍♀️

It’s just you said it like it was relevant.

Confrontational aren't you? Is it possible for to make a point without being quite so acerbic?

If you can go on holiday there, it isn't a war zone, that was the point.

Harsh measures? like sending to Rwanda trafficked children when they reach 18? lovely.

How will these new laws reduce migration into the UK when France/EU has already said it will not take returned refugee's, there is no capacity in 3rd countries and the UK is not cracking down on UK based gangs.

I'm all for stopping the boats but i'd prefer measures that will work, not bones thrown to right wingers.

Right wingers 🙄 I mean, does ‘right wing’ mean anything any more bar ‘disagreeing in any form with an accepted leftist view’?

How will these new laws reduce migration into the UK

Well it says on the tin, because people arriving in the boats won’t be allowed to stay here permanently.

There are very few trafficked men. In any crime structure, you get the grunts, and the higher up players. Just because somebody is ‘low down’ in the chain, it doesn’t mean their role isn’t consensual or that they’ve been trafficked.

I’ll keep banging the drum about the safety of women around unchecked and uncontrolled male immigration from patriarchal countries because that’s the enormous elephant in the room that nobody wants to address. Just like Rotherham.