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Thread 21. Sunak. How many more will be deserting the sinking ship?

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Roussette · 08/03/2023 09:10

Here we go. Previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4735780-thread-21-sunak-return-of-the-numpties?page=20&reply=124466839

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Roussette · 13/03/2023 09:01

DuncinToffee · 13/03/2023 08:57

Rishi Sunak distances himself from Richard Sharp(BBC Chairman) saying his appointment "had nothing to do with me."

He's very good with the 'Not me, Guv' on all manner of things. Given the number of PMs we've had, it isn't likely that much will have happened during for instance Sunak's and Truss's tenureship.
So it's a very easy excuse.

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IClaudine · 13/03/2023 09:11

Interesting. Is Sharp toast, as suggested by Gina Miller yesterday?

DuncinToffee · 13/03/2023 09:12

The Express Front page

Braverman orders 'woke' police to protect free speech

Oh the irony

Cornettoninja · 13/03/2023 09:36

DuncinToffee · 13/03/2023 09:12

The Express Front page

Braverman orders 'woke' police to protect free speech

Oh the irony

Exactly what I thought!

Snowflake Suella chucking her toys out the pram over comparisons to 30’s Germany (when anyone confident of their motivations would have dismissed it as Godwins - she’s not the first nor last to face that comparison)but making sure anyone else taking offence on twitter doesn’t get to make a similar drama out of it.

'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.'

L1ttledrummergirl · 13/03/2023 09:40

Teachers are striking Wednesday and Thursday as well.

DuncinToffee · 13/03/2023 09:53

Breaking: Gary Lineker to return to presenting on the BBC, @SkyNews understands.
Some form of apology expected from the BBC.

DuncinToffee · 13/03/2023 09:54

Tobias Ellwood(Tory MP) calls for the govt to provide a "viable alternative for asylum seekers to be able to apply for asylum safely here in the UK... France & Germany actually take more asylum seekers than us, but there needs to be a collective effort"

#KayBurley #BBCBreakfast

Roussette · 13/03/2023 09:54

Quite right too. They cocked it up big time. No consistency and no impartiality with other well known faces.

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IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:09

Oh, here we go. Time for a spot of othering of disabled people and other vulnerable groups.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/universal-credit-sanctions-hunt-budget-b2298836.html

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2023 10:13

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:09

Oh, here we go. Time for a spot of othering of disabled people and other vulnerable groups.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/universal-credit-sanctions-hunt-budget-b2298836.html

I’m preparing for the blows to rain down on my head but I’m not particularly outraged by that. The increase in childcare payments and making them upfront is surely a good thing? It’s a shame it’s not accompanied by a drive to make employers pay decent wages so people don’t need subsidies.

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:17

Some of it seems reasonable, @Blossomtoes , but I worry about what is not being mentioned.

Scrapping the work capability assessment for example. That is a good thing, but what will replace it? Who will decide whether a disabled person is fit enough to work and how will they decide that.

DuncinToffee · 13/03/2023 10:19

NEW: BBC confirms Gary Lineker to return to Match of the Day this week. Also announces a social media guidelines review.
BBC Director General Tim Davie: “Everyone recognised this has been a difficult period for staff, contributors, presenters and, most importantly, our audiences. I apologise for this.“

Basically Lineker has entirely won. Nothing changes in terms of social media in the short term.

Lewis Goodall

Notonthestairs · 13/03/2023 10:20

It's difficult to trust a Government that has spent years making life so much harder than necessary for disabled people. There isnt a lot of detail released as yet so I can't tell whether the plans are a positive move or whether they'll just introduce a fresh range of problems.

Notonthestairs · 13/03/2023 10:22

Good.
Now the BBC need to acknowledge that having a Chairman that is so compromised he's had to be kept out of sight for a week is ridiculous and replace him.
I'm sure Sunak can drum up another crony from somewhere.

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:26

Notonthestairs · 13/03/2023 10:20

It's difficult to trust a Government that has spent years making life so much harder than necessary for disabled people. There isnt a lot of detail released as yet so I can't tell whether the plans are a positive move or whether they'll just introduce a fresh range of problems.

Exactly. When has this government made life easier for disabled people.

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2023 10:28

Notonthestairs · 13/03/2023 10:20

It's difficult to trust a Government that has spent years making life so much harder than necessary for disabled people. There isnt a lot of detail released as yet so I can't tell whether the plans are a positive move or whether they'll just introduce a fresh range of problems.

I completely agree. I’m the last one to trust anything they say but this - so far - isn’t in shouting at the radio territory for me.

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:32

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2023 10:28

I completely agree. I’m the last one to trust anything they say but this - so far - isn’t in shouting at the radio territory for me.

I admit that for personal reasons I get a bit anxious when they start fiddling about with the disability benefits system. So possibly I am too suspicious.

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2023 10:34

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:32

I admit that for personal reasons I get a bit anxious when they start fiddling about with the disability benefits system. So possibly I am too suspicious.

That’s entirely understandable. And I’ll be linking arms with you at the barricades if they pull one of their all too familiar stunts.

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:37

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2023 10:34

That’s entirely understandable. And I’ll be linking arms with you at the barricades if they pull one of their all too familiar stunts.

Thanks. I am a full time carer for my very disabled husband. He would work if he could and so would I (and we both did all our lives until he became too disabled).

Piggywaspushed · 13/03/2023 10:49

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 10:17

Some of it seems reasonable, @Blossomtoes , but I worry about what is not being mentioned.

Scrapping the work capability assessment for example. That is a good thing, but what will replace it? Who will decide whether a disabled person is fit enough to work and how will they decide that.

On LK yesterday, Hunt spoke about ow many people with disabilities and chronic illnesses wanted to work, that they could now WFH. He mentioned Zoom. And how empowering this would be to so many.

Because all businesses are set up this way. All businesses will employ someone who WFH . Yes, that will happen. People wo want to work at home and at all stigmatised or demonised by the media and the government, are they?

N, what will happen is people with disabilities will be steered towards a narrow range of careers and give a 'right to request hybrid working'. Call centres manned entirely remotely by people with disabilities and chronic illness, perhaps? At the NMW , natch.

Piggywaspushed · 13/03/2023 10:52

L1ttledrummergirl · 13/03/2023 09:40

Teachers are striking Wednesday and Thursday as well.

And OFSTED office staff. No one mentions this funnily.

They are striking Mon - Weds for something like 10 weeks.

A result of this is Ofsted now have them making loads of calls to hapless schools on Friday saying 'see you on Monday'. This did not used to be allowed.

Fladdermus · 13/03/2023 11:04

The UK system for disabled people is horrendous. I've been through it. I'm having a panic attack just thinking about it now. I'm autistic. I can get a job, I can work, but I can't maintain it. I might manage a day or two or even a month but sure as night follows day, complete breakdown follows work.

The system simple cannot comprehend a disability like that. That someone is alert, intelligent, fully capable one day and a completely useless, gibbering wreck the next. And the questionnaires I had to fill out asking me to explain why people don't like me or think I'm rude or whatever. How the fuck do I know? If I knew what I was getting wrong I wouldn't be autistic, I'd just be an arsehole.

Here in Sweden I was assessed, found to have 50% capacity (they wanted to sign me off 100% but I wouldn't let them), so I am now early retired due to disability 50%. That means they will never ask me about that 50% again. It's done, I'm permanently signed off sick 50%. If I'm unemployed I only have to search for work for 50%. I can work 50% and earn as much as I like and it won't affect my 50% disability benefits. I'm probably making it sound like a rights dog's dinner but it's so much easier and disability friendly.

Moonicorn · 13/03/2023 11:11

And the questionnaires I had to fill out asking me to explain why people don't like me or think I'm rude or whatever.

Do they? In those exact words?

Cornettoninja · 13/03/2023 11:15

I’m interested to see if they go any further down the line of getting early retirees back into work to tackle staffing shortages. That was an interesting thread for a Tory to pull.

As for capability assessments I wonder if they’re going to hint at redesigning Remploy? It’s not a bad idea but, like so much, relies on and will mirror the talent of those involved in its creation.

IClaudine · 13/03/2023 11:16

It is horrible Fladdermouse The DWP leave us alone as my husband has been deemed too disabled ever to work again. The thought of going through all that again makes me feel really sick.

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