DD Fucked Up - what will happen

[TheCakeDiet]

DD (17) called me last night sobbing. She has fucked up and all of her own making, but what I am trying to determine is what the consequences will be.

She went to her Boyfriend's house yesterday evening. It was quite late (as she had a day off school today) so they decided to sit in his mum's car to chat rather than risk waking her up.

DD sat in drivers seat for no particular reason. They put the engine on as it was cold and DD - for reasons that she can't really explain - moved the car forward about five feet. She has a provisional license only and her boyfriend the same. Meaning not qualified OR insured to be doing that. The only reason she can give is that she has only ever driven her lesson car and wanted to 'see how it felt'.

She knocked the car in front. Small scratch.

In the meantime, a 'concerned neighbour' noticed a boy in a black hoodie (boyfriend) getting into a car that she knows belongs to blond woman) his mum - and decided to report a possible 'live' car theft. Police arrived just as they were standing oven mouthed with horror and having dinked the car.

DD owned up straight away and gave her details and boyfriend's mum was woken and said she didn't want to pursue/press any charges (thank you thank you).

Police had initially searched DD and her BF thinking they were stealing the car but BF showed them the key and pointed to his house. Because they were searched (I believe?) the police had to bring dd home. They told me they wouldn't be pressing any charges and she has no record, but they do need to notify DVLA that she moved the car five feet. They have said they don't know exactly what will happen but she may get up to 6 points on her provisional license and a ban that will come into effect once she has passed her test.

We will also be contacted by Social Services.

I am livid. DD is hugely remorseful but tough shit.

I haven't even told DH yet as he will hit the roof and I didn't sleep all night and can't face it the ranting that will ensue.

I have told DD she must pay for any damage and write a letter of apology. I have also told her she will obviously now NOT get a car in the near future and we would have to wait and see what action DVLA take.

What I really want to know is what the DVLA consequences are likely to be. Police were vague - lots of 'might be this, might be that'... but also quite enjoying the fear they were putting into her - lot's of "you're lucky you aren't in a cell" etc. I have no problem with them giving her a scare, but it means it was hard to know what was the likely scenario so we don't know what to expect.

Anyone had anything similar?

Thank you

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@MrMarkham the op says it was on a public road?

Are you 100% sure your dd isn’t covering for her boyfriend?
Was she seen in the driving seat?

Don't they have to issue a Notice of Intended Prosecution within 14 days?

As someone who has just had the massive inconvenience of being without a car for a week because of some irresponsible twat driving into it at low speed in a car park I'm surprised so many are trying to minimise this and feel sorry for the daughter. She decided to drive a car on a public road without a license or insurance in a car that wasn't hers. It doesn't matter that she only drove it 5 feet the point is she drove it. And has then caused damage to someone else's vehicle who will now have to deal with getting it fixed.

And as to the comments saying it was good she owned up etc, she didn't have a choice - she was caught by the police. Who knows if she would have been so quick to be honest if they hadn't turned up.

@TheCakeDiet I hope your daughter has a job so she can pay to repair both cars and for the hire cars the owners may need in the interim.

I agree with @CantFindTheBeat I think she has probably learned her lesson.
The same thing happened to my very first boyfriend. I was no where near but he started the engine of his friends mother's car on the road. It lurched forward and hit the parked car in front. He had to pay for the damage to both and got grounded for two weeks. But that was it. He still learned to drive (he was also provisional).
Teens do silly things.

It sounds like she will be issued with a summons to court via post to go to court for driving without insurance and also driving without insurance. Both of which will incur 6 points and a fine. She will not be able to drive for 3 years as she will effectively be banned.

If she only gets 6 points she will still be able to drive if she passes her test but would be banned if she gets any more in the first 2 years of passing.

There will be no further action as the police have told you they won’t take action. The DVLA stuff was police bollocks to scare your DD so she won’t do it again. They should not do that but there you go.

so I would say forget about it and if your DH is such a wanker that he is likely to go mad at your DD, don’t tell him about any of it.

This is how I feel.

I currently have a no fault (my car was parked and was hit) to get sorted and it is a pain in the ass.

OP, I don't know the answers to your question but I didn't want to read and run. What a horribly stressful situation for you. Teens can do inexplicable things - I am much older now but can still cringe at some of the daft stuff I did and what I put my poor parents through, plus all the accompanying drama. Just hope there are not too many repercussions beyond having to pay for the mark on the other car, and that you and DD will be OK.

6 penalty points on her provisional won't make her lose her licence when she passes. But if she gets any more points within two years after passing, she will lose it. Her car insurance will definitely increase. I wouldn't like to guess.

I think the police meant bf mum won’t press charges for them “ taking” the car a few feet.
The owner of the scratched car can claim from bf mum’s insurance. I’d suggest your daughter apologises profusely and offers to pay for scratch repair.
Teenagers mess up, no one died, she’ll learn from it. I thought the police via a court had to put points on licence, I don’t think the dvla will do anything as no action is being pursued.

Op, unless your dd has been charged with driving whilst disqualified and no insurance she can’t be given any points, and it will not affect her license or insurance going forward.

It is six points for driving whilst disqualified, with a fine usually and no separate penalty for the lack of insurance- usually.

The police said they are not charging her, so it sounds like she was lucky.

I would visit the owners of the damaged car with an apology, card and full payment for the repairs and relax. It’s going to be fine.

And flowers!

I’ve got a feeling the police were scaring her with the DVLA thing and won’t do anything about it now they’ve given her a fright.

Nobody died, she and BF made a daft error of judgement. Cars can be mended, points will expire. It seems she already knows she has made a mistake that will have consequences, all of which she will be the one to suffer from. You've told her she did an idiotic thing, the police frightened her, now just give her a hug and reassure her it's not the end of the world and you will help her deal with the consequences as they arise. And give thanks she is alive and well.

Points collected as a learner driver are not counted as points towards revokation of your driving licence. So it's possible to have up to 11 points as a learner and still be allowed legally to drive, but good luck getting insurance (or an instructor who will teach her).

I would absolutely go mad at any of my children who broke the law and caused damage to someone else's property.

That could have been a child.

She wasn't insured and she doesn't have a driving licence. SHE KNOWS THIS.

And it's all well and good saying she owned up but she was caught by the police. How many other times has she done similar and got away with it?

How many of you would be so understanding if it was your car she had hit and you'd a handling to get sorted? Who is going to pay to get it sorted? The op? Plus a hire car whilst the repair is done? It could be thousands (my small dink is).

Some of these replys. 🙄

Just wait until your kids are teenagers ...all kids fuck up at sometime.

It's not like she's killed anyone. Perspective is needed here.

Ensure the damage to the cars is paid for make her apologise to all parties.

Get on with life

Haven’t read full thread so forgive me I someone else has mentioned this but why would SS be involved? From recent experience they aren’t interested in a small child who is being neglected and probably exposed to some pretty inappropriate stuff.School have notified but apparently this doesn’t warrant intervention.

That is sooo naughty.

But clearly a teachable moment. She needs to learn that the theatrics won't change the consequences this time. She really does need to think twice. I wouldn't comfort or condemn, just make sure the natural consequences play out.

Her dad ranting will obscure the opportunity for growth by burning her out emotionally. Tell him to shut up.

My daughter and her 14 year old pals took my car along a single track but public road for a good mile and back on a spontaneous teenage evening joy ride. Not a busy road and Im fairly sure they would have kangarooed their way there and back but still... Your daughter's 'crime' is so much less. Their brains are immature and they are still learning to control their impulses. No real harm done in either case. Be careful with her if she is fragile, no one will beat her up as much as she will be doing to herself.

I've had three teens. None of them drove on the public road uninsured and without a valid driving licence.

I get the impression that police have tried to scare your daughter so she does not do it again. If she hadn't been charged or given a notice of intended prosecution or similar then no further action. I would not phone cop shop as you may put your daughters neck in the noose. I would wait and see what happens. Its no good talking yourself into a prosecution. I certainly would not involve dvla.

Sorry I’m brand new to this site I thought I had started new post apologies