Page 4 | Benefits of Brexit?

NotAgainFrederick · 2023-02-02T17:09:33+00:00

Just interested to know what benefits have we had as a result of Brexit?

jgw1 · 04/02/2023 19:43

AnuSTart · 04/02/2023 19:36

With faith, soverignity and control of OUR borders then Brexit will be a huge success.......

But @jgw1 when? WHEN???

Believe and the unicorns will graze on sunlit uplands.

Daphodils · 04/02/2023 19:48

jgw1 · 04/02/2023 19:32

Just another remoaner thinking the UKs best days are behind us. With faith, soverignity and control of OUR borders then Brexit will be a huge success.

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You are clearly a disgraceful remoaner troll. True brexit voters want to protect "are boarders".

jgw1 · 04/02/2023 19:49

Daphodils · 04/02/2023 19:48

You are clearly a disgraceful remoaner troll. True brexit voters want to protect "are boarders".

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You've got me there.

Mum97540 · 04/02/2023 19:49

dangerrabbit · 02/02/2023 22:54

We hear less from Nigel Farage?

He's apparently sending out emails now advising people on how to make a fortune!

Daphodils · 04/02/2023 19:51

Mum97540 · 04/02/2023 19:49

He's apparently sending out emails now advising people on how to make a fortune!

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To be fair, this is something he IS actually qualified to advise on.

juggleit · 05/02/2023 11:43

We havnt had to contribute to the covid recovery fund to the tune of 100 billion pound ( this is obviously paid over some years)
i don’t see why our country should prop up Italian and Greek economies that’s re failing due to terrible miss management and corruption.

As with all contributions to the EU coffers we were paying in more than we took out of the pot to boost evolving economies from the Eastern Europe. I work in an industry where EU regulations have a massive impact to the cost of production which the UK government gold plated.

I had many a discussion with European colleagues over the years who would laugh when discussing certain EU regs - and I quote ‘ oh we just ignore that silly rule’
But oh no - not the UK because we are regulated and inspected and standards are maintained at great cost while your counterparts flounce the rules and therefore not have the additional costs. That is not a level playing field - never has been and never will be.

By all means remain an economic Union for trade purposes but we don’t need to the rest of the corrupt bureaucracy that is Brussels.

I suspect a lot of remainers feel emotional about not being ‘in the EU’ like we have turned our backs on them.
I have just imported thousands of pounds of equipment from France so trade still happens and very straightforward from the uk side £45 paid to the very efficient UK customs company - the French side on the other hand £300 for the very same customs paperwork their end! Go figure?

FrenchandSaunders · 05/02/2023 11:52

It highlighted how thick and easily led many of the population are.

Which isn’t a good thing obv!

jgw1 · 05/02/2023 11:52

juggleit · 05/02/2023 11:43

We havnt had to contribute to the covid recovery fund to the tune of 100 billion pound ( this is obviously paid over some years)
i don’t see why our country should prop up Italian and Greek economies that’s re failing due to terrible miss management and corruption.

As with all contributions to the EU coffers we were paying in more than we took out of the pot to boost evolving economies from the Eastern Europe. I work in an industry where EU regulations have a massive impact to the cost of production which the UK government gold plated.

I had many a discussion with European colleagues over the years who would laugh when discussing certain EU regs - and I quote ‘ oh we just ignore that silly rule’
But oh no - not the UK because we are regulated and inspected and standards are maintained at great cost while your counterparts flounce the rules and therefore not have the additional costs. That is not a level playing field - never has been and never will be.

By all means remain an economic Union for trade purposes but we don’t need to the rest of the corrupt bureaucracy that is Brussels.

I suspect a lot of remainers feel emotional about not being ‘in the EU’ like we have turned our backs on them.
I have just imported thousands of pounds of equipment from France so trade still happens and very straightforward from the uk side £45 paid to the very efficient UK customs company - the French side on the other hand £300 for the very same customs paperwork their end! Go figure?

Perhaps you could explain to us what those regulations are, and how they have changed since we left the EU?

jgw1 · 05/02/2023 15:27

jgw1 · 05/02/2023 11:52

Perhaps you could explain to us what those regulations are, and how they have changed since we left the EU?

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Thank you for those examples. Compelling

BitOutOfPractice · 05/02/2023 15:29

Marchitectmummy · 02/02/2023 17:21

The speed of covid vaccination roll out was one mentioned at the time?

The EU overtook us after about 6 weeks.

jgw1 · 05/02/2023 15:32

BitOutOfPractice · 05/02/2023 15:29

The EU overtook us after about 6 weeks.

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But Boris was the first person ever to vacinnate someone in the world and that is all that really matters.

EarthlyNightshade · 05/02/2023 15:38

JoonT · 02/02/2023 22:33

It upset all the sneering, sanctimonious, bullying Guardian-readers.

For a lot of people, this is enough.
They are not interested enough in the country as a whole to care about any damage being done by brexit, or indeed seeing if there are any other benefits.
There must be some benefits, the media is still saying how great it all is, someone must be feeling these benefits.

LauraNicolaides · 05/02/2023 15:42

juggleit · 05/02/2023 11:43

We havnt had to contribute to the covid recovery fund to the tune of 100 billion pound ( this is obviously paid over some years)
i don’t see why our country should prop up Italian and Greek economies that’s re failing due to terrible miss management and corruption.

As with all contributions to the EU coffers we were paying in more than we took out of the pot to boost evolving economies from the Eastern Europe. I work in an industry where EU regulations have a massive impact to the cost of production which the UK government gold plated.

I had many a discussion with European colleagues over the years who would laugh when discussing certain EU regs - and I quote ‘ oh we just ignore that silly rule’
But oh no - not the UK because we are regulated and inspected and standards are maintained at great cost while your counterparts flounce the rules and therefore not have the additional costs. That is not a level playing field - never has been and never will be.

By all means remain an economic Union for trade purposes but we don’t need to the rest of the corrupt bureaucracy that is Brussels.

I suspect a lot of remainers feel emotional about not being ‘in the EU’ like we have turned our backs on them.
I have just imported thousands of pounds of equipment from France so trade still happens and very straightforward from the uk side £45 paid to the very efficient UK customs company - the French side on the other hand £300 for the very same customs paperwork their end! Go figure?

From beginning to end (especially "only the UK sticks to the rules, other countries laugh at us" and "we can be in the UK for the bits we like but not the other bits") this post is some sort of Daily Express fantasy!

BitOutOfPractice · 05/02/2023 15:45

jgw1 · 05/02/2023 15:32

But Boris was the first person ever to vacinnate someone in the world and that is all that really matters.

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Well quite apart from the fact that he didn’t do it personally, the uk wasn’t even the first country to approve the vaccine.

Also, no it really really isn’t all that matters. Getting the maximum number if people vaccinated as quickly as possible is what matters, not the first one. And we failed at that!

darjeelingrose · 05/02/2023 15:54

Riapia · 02/02/2023 19:23

People are risking their lives crossing the channel to get away from the shithole of the EU.

Are you sure about that? I thought it was because once you are in the UK it is easier to get work illegally than it is in, say, France, where there are more checks. France takes loads more refugees than Britain, so it can't be that they think the legal route in the UK will be easier.

DuesToTheDirt · 05/02/2023 16:08

Blue passports, so much better obviously.

The photo in it is much clearer than in my old EU passport. I don't know whether this is specific to the new UK passports, or whether newer EU passports would also have clearer photos, but I can definitely say it is a downside - it shows the wrinkles much better, and if I'd realised I'd have taken more trouble to get a flattering photo.

notprincehamlet · 05/02/2023 16:22

More bureaucracy and delay at borders giving Brits abroad the opportunity to indulge their love for queueing

wackamole · 05/02/2023 18:46

DuesToTheDirt · 05/02/2023 16:08

Blue passports, so much better obviously.

The photo in it is much clearer than in my old EU passport. I don't know whether this is specific to the new UK passports, or whether newer EU passports would also have clearer photos, but I can definitely say it is a downside - it shows the wrinkles much better, and if I'd realised I'd have taken more trouble to get a flattering photo.

And at the risk of being pedantic - passport colour still isn't mandated by the EU. Croatia, which joined in 2013, did a big passport design rehaul in 2015. The colour? Still dark blue. But the cover? They added "European Union" - but only IN Croatian (Europska Unija). The prior version had English and French text in additon to Croatian; that's been removed.

Lead, not leave!!! 😇

Iceland and Liechtenstein (not EU, but EFTA and therefore single market) have dark blue passports, too.

I suspect that the problem for Brexiteers is that they didn't really want the standard dark blue soft passport booklet - which is carried by all manner of foreigners - but rather the old so-blue-it's-almost-black hardbacked passport. For that, the UK would have to flout the standards of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) - resulting in a magnificent, nostalgic novelty document which would be useless to travel anywhere.

RumandSpinach · 05/02/2023 18:55

Industry can pollute our beaches as much as it likes

AnuSTart · 05/02/2023 18:58

Well I live in Europe and constantly hear my parents and family in the UK telling me how it's all going to shit. Meanwhile on the mainland we are doing just fine so there is that and as Michel Barnier so sensibly said, in Europe we've moved on and don't even talk about Brexit. Meanwhile your emergency services are on strike, your teachers are on strike, food banks are booming and a lot of people are suffering. Well done Brexiteers!

Alexandra2001 · 05/02/2023 19:02

@juggleit The 100bn euro recovery fund would benefit us all, especially the UK and yes helping other countries boosts trade.

No Horizon access, huge blow to UK life sciences.

ReesMogg said (on the R4 debate on Brexit 3years in) we have saved around £190bn in fees to the EU... well if thats the case, surely we can afford to pay Nurses etc 10%, that would around 5% of that amount & the rest spent on levelling up, NHS reform, education, its a bonanza of ready cash!

Or is he lying?

Non tariff trade barriers to/from EU are very significant, so i think you probably made up how cheap n easy it is.... because it is not, no one involved in import export says this.

We have also lost EU pricing ...so a specific item i'm looking at buying is £1400 cheaper in EU than in UK, £12000 vs 12000 euros, pre brexit, it was priced in euros in the UK .... subject to exchange rate.

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/02/2023 19:02

NI terrorists are loving Brexit, the rest of us not so much.😒

MarshaBradyo · 05/02/2023 19:03

AnuSTart · 05/02/2023 18:58

Well I live in Europe and constantly hear my parents and family in the UK telling me how it's all going to shit. Meanwhile on the mainland we are doing just fine so there is that and as Michel Barnier so sensibly said, in Europe we've moved on and don't even talk about Brexit. Meanwhile your emergency services are on strike, your teachers are on strike, food banks are booming and a lot of people are suffering. Well done Brexiteers!

and don't even talk about Brexit

tbf I only see people talk about it constantly on mn. Irl it’s just normal life, every day chat. Brexit doesn’t come up.

DuesToTheDirt · 05/02/2023 19:14

wackamole · 05/02/2023 18:46

And at the risk of being pedantic - passport colour still isn't mandated by the EU. Croatia, which joined in 2013, did a big passport design rehaul in 2015. The colour? Still dark blue. But the cover? They added "European Union" - but only IN Croatian (Europska Unija). The prior version had English and French text in additon to Croatian; that's been removed.

Lead, not leave!!! 😇

Iceland and Liechtenstein (not EU, but EFTA and therefore single market) have dark blue passports, too.

I suspect that the problem for Brexiteers is that they didn't really want the standard dark blue soft passport booklet - which is carried by all manner of foreigners - but rather the old so-blue-it's-almost-black hardbacked passport. For that, the UK would have to flout the standards of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) - resulting in a magnificent, nostalgic novelty document which would be useless to travel anywhere.

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The old one was always a silly design, regardless of regulations. Mine got bent and sweaty from being carried in a moneybelt for ages.

On the other hand, I did like having the name on the front rather than a couple of pages inside, it avoided the mistake that some idiots might make of taking the wrong passport to the airport...

cstaff · 05/02/2023 19:29

The population of british people (holding irish passports (but living/ born in Britain) has escalated something fierce. I work near the passport office in dublin and the queues a few years ago was something else.