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Benefits of Brexit?

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NotAgainFrederick · 02/02/2023 17:09

Just interested to know what benefits have we had as a result of Brexit?

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LauraNicolaides · 02/02/2023 17:57

There are 23 very clear and specific benefits listed here:
Brexit benefits

For example:

Britain’s fishermen will increase their allowable catch from British waters

The UK will bring trading in Swiss shares back to London

Life will be harder for international bike thieves trying to move stolen machines through ports

Almost 1,500 EU-based financial services firms applied for permission to operate in the UK, with around 1,000 of these planning to establish their first UK office

The US food giant Kraft Heinz is investing £140mn in its Wigan plant to return production of tomato ketchup, salad cream and mayonnaise from its Dutch plant

UK shoppers will save 20 pence per bottle on Australian wine under the terms of Britain’s new free trade deal with Canberra

NotAgainFrederick · 02/02/2023 18:14

@LauraNicolaides Thanks for that. I particularly like this one.

Asylum claims: According to the BBC’s Lewis Goodall, successful asylum decisions are at their highest rate for many years attributed partly to Brexit. The UK is no longer part of The Dublin Agreement meaning we can no longer refuse a refugee’s application on basis they’ve already crossed into an EU country. Dr Peter Walsh, Senior Researcher at the Migration Observatory at Oxford: “The government has recognised three quarters of asylum applications as valid over the last year. This is a significant shift compared to a few years ago, when the majority of asylum applications were initially refused (even if many of these were later overturned on appeal). We now see majorities of positive decisions across a range of groups, from young men to older women…”

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LexMitior · 02/02/2023 18:16

Newspapers have stories. Michel Barnier has more leisure time. Lawyers making lots of money sorting through the effects.

PuttingDownRoots · 02/02/2023 18:17

DHgot a bottle of whisky for a great price at Edinburgh Airport in duty free.

Not sure if it quite compensates for the other travel restrictions....

NanaRant · 02/02/2023 18:42

Sovereignty, surely?

CiderWithLizzie · 02/02/2023 18:46

Blue passports 🤣

LexMitior · 02/02/2023 18:47

Nadine Dorries is a television personality

Nagado · 02/02/2023 18:48

NotAgainFrederick · 02/02/2023 18:14

@LauraNicolaides Thanks for that. I particularly like this one.

Asylum claims: According to the BBC’s Lewis Goodall, successful asylum decisions are at their highest rate for many years attributed partly to Brexit. The UK is no longer part of The Dublin Agreement meaning we can no longer refuse a refugee’s application on basis they’ve already crossed into an EU country. Dr Peter Walsh, Senior Researcher at the Migration Observatory at Oxford: “The government has recognised three quarters of asylum applications as valid over the last year. This is a significant shift compared to a few years ago, when the majority of asylum applications were initially refused (even if many of these were later overturned on appeal). We now see majorities of positive decisions across a range of groups, from young men to older women…”

I don’t know why anyone ever thought that Brexit would have the slightest effect on asylum seekers. It’s not as though those wanting to claim in the UK would get to Calais, only to find out that they’d fallen at the last hurdle because we’d voted to leave the EU, meaning they could go no further and would have to stay in France. I’d be interested to see the figures for Dublin refusals seeing as Dublin returns didn’t apply to the vast majority of clandestine travellers. It wasn’t just a case of picking a European country and popping them back on the ferry. And the increase in grants might coincide with Brexit but it also coincides with a deterioration in the country conditions of some unfortunate places and increases in migration due to poverty, crime, corruption and vawg. Plus, if asylum claims are repeatedly being overturned at appeal, then who is paying for that? We’re skint. I’d rather the money we do have was used sensibly, rather than trying to defend decisions at appeal that stand no chance of success.

The only benefit I can see to Brexit is that it has allowed a lot of people to enjoy saying ‘told you so’ for years and years and years.

DRS1970 · 02/02/2023 18:48

No longer in the common agricultural or common fisheries policies.

Able to set our own Vat rules, so no more tampon tax for example.

New trade deals...

GCWorkNightmare · 02/02/2023 18:51

Lifesyoungdream · 02/02/2023 17:26

I was just talking about this today
Has the National Health improved
Has it stopped illegal immigrants coming into the country.

It was never about Illegal immigrants. It was about all immigrants. So they painted a picture about immigration being bad despite so many industries being heavily reliant on it.

another shotgun to the face of Britain. <slow clap>

Riapia · 02/02/2023 19:23

People are risking their lives crossing the channel to get away from the shithole of the EU.

LauraNicolaides · 02/02/2023 19:26

Nagado · 02/02/2023 18:48

I don’t know why anyone ever thought that Brexit would have the slightest effect on asylum seekers. It’s not as though those wanting to claim in the UK would get to Calais, only to find out that they’d fallen at the last hurdle because we’d voted to leave the EU, meaning they could go no further and would have to stay in France. I’d be interested to see the figures for Dublin refusals seeing as Dublin returns didn’t apply to the vast majority of clandestine travellers. It wasn’t just a case of picking a European country and popping them back on the ferry. And the increase in grants might coincide with Brexit but it also coincides with a deterioration in the country conditions of some unfortunate places and increases in migration due to poverty, crime, corruption and vawg. Plus, if asylum claims are repeatedly being overturned at appeal, then who is paying for that? We’re skint. I’d rather the money we do have was used sensibly, rather than trying to defend decisions at appeal that stand no chance of success.

The only benefit I can see to Brexit is that it has allowed a lot of people to enjoy saying ‘told you so’ for years and years and years.

Exactly, but your 150-word analysis of the asylum process is 140 words more than the average brexit voter could muster on anything to do with immigration.

Asylum = foreigners = scroungers= immigrants = criminals = Mogadishu

Send 'em back

NotAgainFrederick · 02/02/2023 19:31

Riapia · 02/02/2023 19:23

People are risking their lives crossing the channel to get away from the shithole of the EU.

No they come here to join family. If DH or my adult kids were in the UK, I would want to be with them.

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Testng123 · 02/02/2023 19:39

You can be in the EU and have no tampon though....Ireland manages it.

Knoblauch · 02/02/2023 19:39

stbrandonsboat · 02/02/2023 17:34

I think we'll be going back to a more authentic way of living, like we did after the Romans left 🤔 living in wattle and daub huts, sleeping next to animals to keep warm, pulling our own teeth out and living on turnips whilst the rich folks demand we hand over any produce we've grown and taking our daughters off us.

I expect it will be a learning experience and character building.

#thriving

JocelynBurnell · 02/02/2023 19:45

The UK is on course to be the world’s worst-performing big economy this year and even lag behind sanctions-hit Russia.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-economic-woes-worse-than-russias-predicts-imf-lmplh5jmq

Somebody, somewhere, seemed to think Brexit was a good idea.

Maybe that somebody was Putin. After all, he seems to have financed it.
www.csis.org/blogs/brexit-bits-bobs-and-blogs/did-russia-influence-brexit

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/02/2023 20:55

MarshaBradyo · 02/02/2023 17:57

I mean in England where Brexit was voted for at higher rate - effectively meaning it won

I think the main parties - especially Labour - are fearful of opening up that divisive debate again. There is a grudging acceptance amongst many that we made the stupid decision to leave and we're stuck with it now. We don't even know if the EU would have us back now, or on what terms.

The polls show that most people now realise that it was the wrong decision to leave - except for around 3 constituencies in Lincolnshire, I believe. However, I don't know how many of those people would actively want to apply to rejoin. That's a different question and I don't know if it has been asked.

Personally, I would absolutely vote for a party that promised to take us back into the single market, to address the Northern Ireland issue if nothing else. However, I think most people think that the EU ship has sailed now. We've made our bed and we've got to lie in it... however uncomfortable it might be.

DomesticShortHair · 02/02/2023 20:59

The type and amount of people it’s wound up. Worth doing just for that alone.

MotherofPearl · 02/02/2023 21:10

DomesticShortHair · 02/02/2023 20:59

The type and amount of people it’s wound up. Worth doing just for that alone.

The economic blow that Brexit has dealt to the whole economy means that you too have been negatively impacted by it, though it sounds like you're too stupid to realise it.

DomesticShortHair · 02/02/2023 21:34

No, not you. I didn’t mean you. You’re an absolute delight. I meant the others.

LauraNicolaides · 02/02/2023 22:02

However, I think most people think that the EU ship has sailed now. We've made our bed and we've got to lie in it... however uncomfortable it might be.

I think a long, slow (rather humiliating) crawl back is inevitable. Geography, demographics and economics will drive it. The xenophobes will "move on", younger people will fill their shoes, and we will look at what, by then, will be our substantially wealthier neighbours and want to be like them.

With a bit of rational reform to our political system so that something so stupid and damaging won't happen again and a bit of probation we'll be readmitted (to a considerably different EU). And finally the delusions of grandeur will be dispelled!

(If the UK breaks up beforehand it will take considerably longer, the disease has progressed much further in England and Wales.)

ichundich · 02/02/2023 22:04

NotAgainFrederick · 02/02/2023 17:09

Just interested to know what benefits have we had as a result of Brexit?

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Andrelaxzz · 02/02/2023 22:08

Brexit has been beneficial in highlighting how easy some people are to trick into voting for bollocks.

JoonT · 02/02/2023 22:33

It upset all the sneering, sanctimonious, bullying Guardian-readers.

JocelynBurnell · 02/02/2023 22:37

The UK is now a poor society with some very rich people.

The top-earning 3 per cent of UK households each took home about £84,000 after tax last year. This puts Britain’s highest earners narrowly behind the wealthiest Germans and Norwegians and better off than the rest of the global elite.

The weathiest 3 per cent in the UK can continue to sneer at our European neighbours.

It is a different story for the average UK household.

The average UK household is now 20 per cent worse off than its peers in north-western Europe. In 2007, that figure was just 7 per cent.

The average British household is £8,800 poorer than its equivalent in five comparable countries, research has found.

On present trends, the average Slovenian household will be better off than its UK counterpart by 2024, and the average Polish family will move ahead before the end of the decade.

It is worse still for the lowest earning households in the UK/

Our lowest earning households are far poorer that any of our peers in in north-western Europe. The poorest in Ireland have a standard of living almost 63% higher than the poorest in the UK.

Far from simply losing touch with their western European peers, the poorest people in the UK are closer to the poorest in former Eastern bloc countries Slovenia and the Czech Republic.

The lowest-earning bracket of British households has a standard of living that was 20 per cent weaker than their counterparts in Slovenia.