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Rich in law's ruin Xmas spirit with stinginess: Coping strategies please.

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ChristmasJoysuckers · 03/12/2022 08:14

Growing up we were not poor but certainly cash poor for many years and yet DP decorated the house beautifully, good music, a feast of food and some presents. Nothing excessive or wow but it was all wonderful.
Eg a book about insects, monopoly game and a Barbie and some chocolate and a basic stocking with pencils etc.

It all felt different, special and grand. Since then I've had very frugal xmasses in all sorts of reduced circumstance places with no gift's, basic food etc but the feeling was cheery and happy.

I can't get my head around in law's version of Xmas and my dp are overseas and we see them at other times of the year but not Xmas.

In law's are v v comfortably off and I actually find going there depressing.
They seem to want everything they do to be "better" and we have to admire mils tree like it's the best ( it isn't).
She will serve Sainsbury's canapés but makes out like she's really spoiling us ( I've seen her really pull stop's out for business clients and she would make stuff or buy Waitrose/ m and s).
I'm very happy with Sainsbury's or Tesco party food and serve it to my guest mixed in with homemade or something higher end but I don't sort of serve it as if I'm doing my guests a massive favour.

She keeps to a very strict budget of I reckon between 20 / 50 pounds. I'm very grateful for anyone buying me a gift but it sort of ruins it when she proudly states how she got our gifts reduced from x or 3 for 2 Argos etc.

She always refers back to how she saved money on them , eg one year a shaving travel kit for DH and a similar set from boots for me and she proudly tells us how it was buy one get one half price.

For the DC one was given a sticker book with some sticker sheets missing and she says she got a reduction because of that.

She spends far more on her own parents and sister and I'm sure her nieces and nephews.

When we eat there she will again look sad and say how she had to buy us food from a wholesaler or how she got it reduced.

I've seen her spend on herself though and buys the finest clothes and food for herself.

Of course it's her business what she does with her money but what I mean she she can splurge where she wants too.

When we give her and fil gift's they are very comfortable to say what they don't like but we are on a truly tight budget.

It's the tone and atmosphere that gets me ,there is no music I'm very easy to please actually and have spent very lean xmasses for many years. I would be very happy at in law's if I didn't feel I had to profusely thank mil for gift's she's literally brought straining every sinew to save money on. Praise her to the high heaven's for basic supermarket party food?
The spirit of Xmas doesn't seem to be there at all. I think money is a huge theme with them anyway, but it feels like they are always modelling how to save money?
DH and I have a tight budget all year, we have too and at Xmas I like to feel comfortable, we save for Xmas and I don't want to talk about saving money or be made to feel guilty because we went for a nicer turkey etc?

How do I get through it? It feels totally against Xmas?

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ChristmasJoysuckers · 04/12/2022 13:40

@Chocolatemonster12 it wasn't Gucci but brand's or boutique bags and the contents for us is like boot's, super drug.

Or DH a Sainsbury's Tu jumper in a bag from saville row?? .

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Calphurnia88 · 04/12/2022 15:54

You've provided a multitude of reasons why you don't like spending time with them (and not only at Christmas) but still seem intent on going and having a terrible time.

It's a bit like that friend who constantly moans about their boyfriend but won't leave them.

I'm not quite sure what it is you're looking for, other than people to validate how awful your PIL are?

ChristmasJoysuckers · 04/12/2022 17:14

@Calphurnia88

Others people's pov.
Ideas on how to handle them,why they do it and hopefully something humorous to give me a raft to cling too whilst in hostile rapids. I like laughing at my problems where I can.

All of which people have kindly provided me with and I guess somewhere to vent!

Is that enough for you 🤣

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ChristmasJoysuckers · 04/12/2022 17:16

And no I struggle to think of a single good reason to go or what's good to go for really but these things are a process.
Society definitely conditions us to conform with family and "grandparents" as if all grandparents are equal.

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Newbie999 · 04/12/2022 17:39

Yes it’s one day!

Purplehair22 · 04/12/2022 17:45

We have a similar situation but my parents in law are actually splurging the cash and making us feel bad for not doing the same. I grew up getting some basic gifts. Appreciating every penny spent on me. My husband grew up having hand-me-downs or 1 gift only. Recently my in laws started getting more money (mainly benefits for grandkids they’re looking after under an SGO). Now I get that the money is for the children but surely no kid needs £500 worth of gifts! Last year they were pushing £1k per kid! Every year we get a photo of their full Xmas tree (full front room actually). When we go over for our kids to open their presents from their grandparents we hear questions like “so what did you get from mummy and daddy?…..o so a little Xmas then?”
One of my kid’s birthday is just before Christmas. We gave him one present and booked a weekend away. They were in disbelief that we would only give him one thing. My husband used to get a pair of trainers for his bday and they had to last him a year! Considering we spent like £500 on our weekend away it’s more about what’s wrapped up for them to open than the experience. The grandkids that live with them have so many toys they don’t even know what to play with. It’s all about spending every last penny and proving they can afford it. It pisses me off so bad that they’re tryna outdo us on gifts every single year!

Newbie999 · 04/12/2022 17:47

Ok. Christmas is one day! Get nice gifts, set a budget and make it clear that’s what you are comfortable with
there is so much pressure from the media and the retail market for us to sieve, spend, spend
when the bills come in you will get such a shock. I see so many people waste their money on crappy gifts. I get a scented diffuser from TJ Max every year from one member of my family. Makes me laugh

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/12/2022 17:47

If it were me when I was younger I’d have said nothing but as I’ve got older (and menopausal) I’d have said something especially giving your DC a sticker book with stickers missing!

She’d be getting something catty re a present from us but I’d have to say something via your DH and sod upsetting her. People like this I find only behave this way as no one challenges them or calls them out on it.

In our family we had an evil uncle (married my auntie), everyone hated him but apart from the odd comment or look no one ever dared make a scene for fear of upsetting him and my grandad, where we all congregated for Christmas. Auntie and uncle are now acrimoniously divorced and I bet the family wish they’d said something rather than play happy families.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/12/2022 17:49

ChristmasJoysuckers · 04/12/2022 17:16

And no I struggle to think of a single good reason to go or what's good to go for really but these things are a process.
Society definitely conditions us to conform with family and "grandparents" as if all grandparents are equal.

You could try another tack and be effusive in your fake joy when you get crappy gifts and substandard food. You could actually have a lot of fun with this!

GUARDIAN1 · 04/12/2022 17:52

I just wouldn't go and say you're not buying presents for adults this year. With things the way they are, my mum and I have both agreed on this too. Because my 5y/o granddaughter will be here, I've got daughter some bits she really needs so it feels nice for her that other people are opening gifts. Apart from that, nothing. I'm sure lots of people will be in a similar position.

KettrickenSmiled · 04/12/2022 17:53

When we go over for our kids to open their presents from their grandparents we hear questions like “so what did you get from mummy and daddy?…..o so a little Xmas then?”

That's quite astoundingly rude @Purplehair22 !
WineHave one of these, you've earned it.

Do you ever lose it & snark at them?
I'd be very hard pressed to tell them - in DC's earshot, which they've already dripped their poison into - to stop being ridiculous, Xmas is as big a deal as always, & mummy & daddy don't rate the value of xmas according to the cost of the gifts.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/12/2022 17:53

RedHelenB · 03/12/2022 11:46

This

SIL and DB wanted educational and preferably wooden toys for 4 year old going on 14 DNephew. I can’t find that navy wooden toys which he doesn’t already have but got him a Science Museum sort of experiment toy. One year I’ll ignore them and get him the puppy he desperately wants! grin

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/12/2022 17:53
Grin
Purplehair22 · 04/12/2022 17:57

Oh I’ve made a few snarky comments too. I’ve dealt with it for years but recently I’ve stopped biting my tongue. I usually go with a trusty “We rather buy 3 good gifts than a pile of worthless plastic” or “We’re teaching them to appreciate what they get not how much it costs”. MIL usually takes that as an opportunity to check on something in the kitchen while FIL gathers his jaw off the floor.

Purplehair22 · 04/12/2022 17:59

@KettrickenSmiled
Oh I’ve made a few snarky comments too. I’ve dealt with it for years but recently I’ve stopped biting my tongue. I usually go with a trusty “We rather buy 3 good gifts than a pile of worthless plastic” or “We’re teaching them to appreciate what they get not how much it costs”. MIL usually takes that as an opportunity to check on something in the kitchen while FIL gathers his jaw off the floor.

Mmpip · 04/12/2022 17:59

"The spirit of Xmas doesn't seem to be there at all"....
Wow very true.....in more way's than one...

Eowyn78 · 04/12/2022 18:10

Is it you, your partner and your child going? If so, why not dress up as the three ghosts of Christmas and scare the Dickens out of her Scroogy mentality so she offers you the best Christmas ever and saves Tiny Tim whilst she is at it?

onlythreenow · 04/12/2022 18:12

I can't believe how many people think Christmas is all about the gifts, decorations, food etc. Yes, they make the day nice, but they aren't what Christmas is. Why don't you just enjoy the time you have together, and try to enjoy the time you spend at your in-laws house without judging everything they do. You aren't a child any more.

FatimaHatima · 04/12/2022 18:13

NatalieIsFreezing · 03/12/2022 08:27

You sound quite snobbish about what she chooses to buy. You clearly do care where things come from or what they cost when it's her so why not be honest about that?

Maybe she feels like she doesn't want to show anyone up which is why she tries to show she didn't overspend?

Incomplete sticker book is crap, I agree, but genuinely I have no idea where my mil buys her food.

I don't why I'm still surprised when people so completely miss the point like this? I mean, this poster can spell and write a coherent sentence, yet still avoids the point by so far?

OP knows where her MIL shops, because MIL bangs on about it. And fishes for compliments, even though OP knows she serves better food to others (because she bangs on about that too). It's not OP who is snobbish, its MIL.

And telling people that their gifts were discounted or cheap is just crass.

Moveoverdarlin · 04/12/2022 18:13

They sound very similar to my in-laws, except we don’t get any presents from them. A Boots set would be the dream. There is also never any Christmas cheer and everything is doom and gloom and they make out they’re skint, when they’re not. My only advice is to grin and bear it and think of the inheritance!

HelloBunny · 04/12/2022 18:17

My parents are like this. I think it’s about stockpiling pension money. They’re loaded, and walk around in rags. Christmas is just another day with them. They’re horrified when we spend money on anything nice...

Windtunnel · 04/12/2022 18:19

Oh god weird Christmas vibes! My MIL went through a stage of demanding thank you letters from my 3 pre-literate children even though she gave the presents in person, and was thanked in person, an irate phone call was guaranteed.

I guess it was a criticism of me really, DH wouldnt have have bothered writing thank yous, but I was so busy with them all being so young.

One Christmas I apologised and announced in public thank you cards were not possible and a lovely aunt said "of course we dont expect written letters, we are right here giving them in person, they can say thank you, the children can hardly write yet and you're so busy!"

Mil didn't ring that year and hasn't ever since..

KettrickenSmiled · 04/12/2022 18:20

Purplehair22 · 04/12/2022 17:59

@KettrickenSmiled
Oh I’ve made a few snarky comments too. I’ve dealt with it for years but recently I’ve stopped biting my tongue. I usually go with a trusty “We rather buy 3 good gifts than a pile of worthless plastic” or “We’re teaching them to appreciate what they get not how much it costs”. MIL usually takes that as an opportunity to check on something in the kitchen while FIL gathers his jaw off the floor.

Nice one @Purplehair22

It's a pass-agg dominance display, people like this operate by assuming that most folk won;t challenge it out of Great British Reserve or "not doing confrontation" & suchlike. Hilarious to call them out & watch them squirm!

Cruisebabe1 · 04/12/2022 18:24

They sound a nightmare!

KettrickenSmiled · 04/12/2022 18:24

onlythreenow · 04/12/2022 18:12

I can't believe how many people think Christmas is all about the gifts, decorations, food etc. Yes, they make the day nice, but they aren't what Christmas is. Why don't you just enjoy the time you have together, and try to enjoy the time you spend at your in-laws house without judging everything they do. You aren't a child any more.

You've entirely missed the point @onlythreenow

OP isn't the one banging on about MiL's gifts, food, decoration etc.
She's only told us about it to illustrate how her MiL insists on drawing attention to her own efforts & demanding constant applause for them.

If you'd directed your remarks above to the MiL, you'd have been spot on.
Not sure how you managed to get it so topsy turvey.