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Bonkers Conspiracy Theories

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TheShellBeach · 30/11/2022 18:59

Well, they're all bonkers, to be fair.

Which conspiracy theories do you think are the most ludicrous?
That there is a microchip in the Covid vaccine seems to me to be one of the strangest.

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Hobbi · 03/12/2022 10:11

Passthecheeseboard · 01/12/2022 06:54

I’m not sure the moon landing was real, like how come we haven’t been back??🤔

Cost, political will, motivation. Of course we went.

Tomikka · 03/12/2022 10:50

Hawkins001 · 03/12/2022 00:06

These underground bases ? What's the whole, who, what, where, when, why ect ?

Who, where, what, why etc vary according to how far down the rabbit hole they have gone.

In reality an underground facility is less exposed, is safer from general attack and when nuclear war was a genuine fear gave a level of continuity if it could be self sufficient - like the ‘secret nuclear bunkers’ that now have tourist road signs pointing towards them

A large complex is suitable for tunnels, perhaps a ‘safe’ route between related bunkers, but a tunnel complex of its own linking military bunkers is counter productive - you have secure separated bunkers safely isolated in case something happens to one, and then you connect them all together taking away the entire point

Whos fighting in them?
In a real ‘underground’ war large complexes would be sat at screens controlling missiles
In the extreme rabbit hole it’s entire army’s of underground infantry attacking each others bunkers (all squished up in a tunnel corridor ???)

What armies would they be?
Not the public overground governments army, but the other army of the secret government that really runs things behind the pretend public government

Why?
Who knows - the world has descended into sodom & Gomorrah, so the real battle is between the good vs the evil
Particularly the highly moral Trump and Putin on the side of perfect 1950s morals of a world that never existed against the evils of today

disclosure.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Underground_Military_Bases

PupInAPram · 03/12/2022 11:02

QAnon, truly batshit crazy.

PupInAPram · 03/12/2022 11:05

Susan2 · 03/12/2022 06:50

Von Daniken? writing a book that was treated fairly seriously in the 1980s?
The Mayan structures in S America were landing areas for aliens/gods.
The ? means details might be slightly wrong. We had the book at home, a relic of Mothers hippy years. What was she taking?

He gave a talk at a British University, I think it was Oxford, and the undergrads debunked his theories in under 30 minutes.

Daftasabroom · 03/12/2022 11:44

Passthecheeseboard · 01/12/2022 06:54

I’m not sure the moon landing was real, like how come we haven’t been back??🤔

There have been 6 moon landings. More recently to NASA have focused on satellites. The Artemis program is planning both unmanned and crewed landings in the next two or three years.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/12/2022 12:05

PupInAPram · 03/12/2022 11:05

He gave a talk at a British University, I think it was Oxford, and the undergrads debunked his theories in under 30 minutes.

I was 15 when the Von Daniken books came out and knew they were rubbish.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/12/2022 12:08

The theory goes that Elizabeth died of the plague when Henry VIII was imminently due to visit her

If Elizabeth had had the plague there's no way her father would have been visiting her. He was terrified of any hint of infection and would have made sure he was miles away from her household.

Daftasabroom · 03/12/2022 12:27

Genevieva · 02/12/2022 16:28

@WalkingThroughTreacle Just looked it up. I'll be honest, I did't realise that flat Earthers existed at all - whether parody or real. Well not since the time of Galileo. But assuming your explanation is correct, their website is hilariously serious. It is an exercise in method acting. They can never be out of character.

I believe even the Vatican believed the earth was sphere and that this had been well known for millennia. What upset the Vatican was that Galileo showed that the Earth was not the centre of the galaxy or universe.

Genevieva · 03/12/2022 12:36

@Daftasabroom You are definitely right about the centre of creation / the universe and about the Ancient Greeks knowing that Earth was a sphere. I might be wrong, but I thought that the Vatican taught that the Earth was a disc when Galileo said it was a sphere. But maybe that was earlier. Or maybe they just didn't think it was that important compared with human life being the pinnacle of creation and therefore at the centre of everything.

Twentypast · 03/12/2022 12:52

WhatsErFace2020 · 03/12/2022 06:12

Oh god, I have a family member who is totally hooked on all of this and it’s all he’ll talk about, his wife has even started being sucked in on it too. Government putting hormones etc in the water, banks corrupted (hard to argue with tbf), COVID conspiracy, chemtrails is his new obsession. I’m so embarrassed for them and find it Uber uncomfortable being around him as he talks this craziness at you and makes out we’re all sheeps who are being controlled by ‘them’ > I’m scared to ask who ‘they’ are 🤣

this all started during COVID and I’m pretty sure it’s because he is a very controlling person who just couldn’t handle being told what to do.

I work for an airline. The chemtrails one drives me mad.

Ask him who loads the chemicals. The loaders? Baggage Handlers? Dispatchers? Refuellers? And all these people from airlines all over the world must add up to thousands of people. And every single one of these people have kept quiet? Not one has come out and said "yes, we load chemicals to control the population".

🙄

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/12/2022 13:00

Ask him who loads the chemicals. The loaders? Baggage Handlers? Dispatchers? Refuellers? And all these people from airlines all over the world must add up to thousands of people. And every single one of these people have kept quiet? Not one has come out and said "yes, we load chemicals to control the population"

You've just articlulated exactly what makes conspiracy theories so implausible and unworkable - the numbers of people who'd have to be involved and who the conspirators would have to trust to keep quiet. Hundreds if not thousands who must never get drunk and tell anyone, must never have a crisis of conscience and tell anyone, must never go home and say 'you'll never guess what I was asked to do today!'

But they'll always come out with 'ah, but what about....'

Daftasabroom · 03/12/2022 13:07

@Twentypast I work for an airline. The chemtrails one drives me mad.

I've worked in aerospace research and there is definitely an origin story of con trails and emissions from burning fossil fuels that has an impact on climate change both through effects on insolation at ground level and the green house gases. How that get's twisted into chemtrails takes some imagination.

Genevieva · 03/12/2022 13:27

In Dubai they definitely use light aircraft to spray some sort of silver derivative into clouds to encourage rain. It works. What's the conspiracy?

greenfieldsblueskies · 03/12/2022 13:32

A sick conspiracy is the Sandyhook one!
Some people believe it didn't really happen and the parents of the victims are actors.

Daftasabroom · 03/12/2022 14:16

Genevieva · 03/12/2022 13:27

In Dubai they definitely use light aircraft to spray some sort of silver derivative into clouds to encourage rain. It works. What's the conspiracy?

None, it called cloud seeding.

I think what worries me is that burning huge amounts of fossil fuels releasing GHGs and particulate emissions of soot on which water condenses forming con trails and in turn clouds kind of goes under the radar because the chemtrails theory is so obviously bonkers.

user1745 · 03/12/2022 17:31

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/12/2022 12:08

The theory goes that Elizabeth died of the plague when Henry VIII was imminently due to visit her

If Elizabeth had had the plague there's no way her father would have been visiting her. He was terrified of any hint of infection and would have made sure he was miles away from her household.

I think the point is he didn't know she had the plague. She had been sent into the country to avoid the plague, and who would want to be the one to tell Henry VIII his daughter had caught the plague and died?

But it doesn't matter really as the story almost certainly isn't true.

GeorgeorRuth · 03/12/2022 19:15

boobot1 · 03/12/2022 09:57

I don't get it, there are actual pictures of the earth from space 🤔

It's CGI apparently..no pictures of earth as a sphere exist according to flat earthers

MissMarpleRocks · 03/12/2022 22:40

greenfieldsblueskies · 03/12/2022 13:32

A sick conspiracy is the Sandyhook one!
Some people believe it didn't really happen and the parents of the victims are actors.

I think I saw something similar on a programme recently about the Manchester Arena & said the same about some of the families had been called actors.

Such such evil twisted people to do that when people are so clearly grieving.

Hawkins001 · 03/12/2022 23:36

MissMarpleRocks · 03/12/2022 22:40

I think I saw something similar on a programme recently about the Manchester Arena & said the same about some of the families had been called actors.

Such such evil twisted people to do that when people are so clearly grieving.

But the problem is , I'm guessing that some incidents have to be classed as actually different than what happened, their was some events in a tv show called spooks, where event x happened but for security purposes ect a press release say it was caused by e.g. V, situation.

yet when there are some leaks to what really happened it can come across as conspiracy theories ect.

Hawkins001 · 03/12/2022 23:37

Daftasabroom · 03/12/2022 14:16

None, it called cloud seeding.

I think what worries me is that burning huge amounts of fossil fuels releasing GHGs and particulate emissions of soot on which water condenses forming con trails and in turn clouds kind of goes under the radar because the chemtrails theory is so obviously bonkers.

The weather modifications has been as far back as ww2,

sashh · 04/12/2022 02:34

GeorgeorRuth · 03/12/2022 19:15

It's CGI apparently..no pictures of earth as a sphere exist according to flat earthers

That's partially true, the image of the earth as the 'blue marble' is a composite, but that doesn't mean it is fake.

GelPens1 · 04/12/2022 09:48

MissMarpleRocks · 03/12/2022 09:08

He was vile wasn’t he? In a position of trust that he abused. Was there evidence she was raped by him or just a belief? She was certainly groomed by him I know.

I read somewhere that he kept coming to her bedroom every morning. She then started to hide before he could come into her room. You have to read between the lines because I guess eye witnesses couldn’t be explicit. He was a disgusting monster, SA his nephew’s half sister.

Daftasabroom · 02/01/2023 11:11

I'm big into sustainability and net zero. I was challenged by someone who didn't "believe" in net zero because all the plants would die without CO2.

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