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Will be Universal Credit go up this much?

296 replies

indiepins · 19/11/2022 16:39

It's currently around £1920 a month. Am I right in thinking it'll be over £2100 now?

DLA is about £600, so will that go up to £660? And CA is £69 a week so will that low be about £305?

Thank you Smile

OP posts:
indiepins · 19/11/2022 18:06

@Guiltycat thank you. I work PT as a HCA for a few nights a month when I can, to give myself some extra as there's a £300 or so limit before it'll impact other benefits etc

I'm shocked NHS 'colleagues' would begrudge my family our income Sad

OP posts:
FluffyFluffMonster · 19/11/2022 18:06

I am also a healthcare professional. Not all of us are idiots promise.

indiepins · 19/11/2022 18:07

FluffyFluffMonster · 19/11/2022 18:06

I am also a healthcare professional. Not all of us are idiots promise.

I know Flowers

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giggly · 19/11/2022 18:07

girlmom21 · 19/11/2022 17:10

The OP is claiming DLA so may well not be capable of work. She should still be allowed to live a comfortable lifestyle.

So many people work and claim DLA. Seems to be a universal acceptance that everyone with a disability can’t work at all, but then with such generous benefits why the fuck would you.
There are plenty of jobs that people with disabilities will be able to do, you do know that people who are registered blind actually work, people with severe MS and full time wheelchair user work. I work with and know plenty who have considerable disabilities and still have the work ethic within them.
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I work f/t and have a disabled child.
There is definitely a culture of accepting that you can’t work if your disabled. Personally I believe too many people disabled or not have no work ethic at all.

Twinstudy · 19/11/2022 18:09

@indiepins I'm sure your son is lovely, it sounds so hard tho. Please ignore all the idiots on here, I'm sure if they spent a few hours in your shoes they wouldn't begrudge you a penny.

Wishing you and your family all the best Flowers

BadNomad · 19/11/2022 18:09

Not to mention that when a carer reaches state pension age, they won't even get their full state pension if they are claiming CA.

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:09

girlmom21 · 19/11/2022 17:10

The OP is claiming DLA so may well not be capable of work. She should still be allowed to live a comfortable lifestyle.

More comfortable than someone working their arse off every hour they can?

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 18:10

giggly · 19/11/2022 18:07

So many people work and claim DLA. Seems to be a universal acceptance that everyone with a disability can’t work at all, but then with such generous benefits why the fuck would you.
There are plenty of jobs that people with disabilities will be able to do, you do know that people who are registered blind actually work, people with severe MS and full time wheelchair user work. I work with and know plenty who have considerable disabilities and still have the work ethic within them.
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I work f/t and have a disabled child.
There is definitely a culture of accepting that you can’t work if your disabled. Personally I believe too many people disabled or not have no work ethic at all.

Op is not claiming DLA for herself, she is caring for a severely disabled child.

IncompleteSenten · 19/11/2022 18:10

Guiltycat · 19/11/2022 18:04

If it helps at all op there are many of us who understand, and few physically sick at the attitudes displayed in this thread by the terminally stupid.

Even more horrific that it is supposedly people with degrees/healthcare professionals who are unable to grasp exactly what life could be like for someone with a severely disabled child. Or even comprehend just how much money carers save the government.

Hint: if they ALL went to work and stopped caring for their loved ones, you’d have a much smaller wage because the cost to the tax payer would be astronomical. And we’d still probably end up with disabled people becoming institutionalised again, with all the horrors that brings. Lucky for you, most would rather weather your scorn then put their loved ones through that.

I have my 🤞that your benefits are increased quickly and by the amount they are supposed to be 💐

That's what I point out when social services / direct payments don't want to give my younger son what he needs.
Asking them how much a full time secure residential place with 2:1 staff trained to manage aggressive behaviour will cost per week for the next 60 odd years tends to get them to rethink pdq.

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 19/11/2022 18:10

from the gov.uk website:
Standard allowance
You’ll get one standard allowance for your household.
How much you’ll get Monthly standard allowance
If you’re single and under 25 £265.31
If you’re single and 25 or over £334.91
If you live with your partner and you’re both under 25 £416.45 (for you both)
If you live with your partner and either of you are 25 or over £525.72 (for you both)
Extra amounts
You may get more money on top of your standard allowance if you’re eligible.
If you have children
You’ll get an extra amount for your first and second child.
You will not get extra money for any more children unless:
your children were born before 6 April 2017
you were already claiming for 3 or more children before 6 April 2017
other exceptions apply
How much you’ll get Extra monthly amount
For your first child £290.00 (born before 6 April 2017)
£244.58 (born on or after 6 April 2017)
For your second child and any other eligible children £244.58 per child
You’ll also get an extra amount if any of your children are disabled. You’re eligible for this extra amount no matter how many children you have.
You’ll get:
£132.89 if your child is disabled
£414.88 if your child is severely disabled
Childcare costs
You can claim back up to 85% of your childcare costs if you’re working. If you live with your partner both of you need to be working, unless one of you is unable to work due to a disability or health condition.
The childcare needs to be from a registered provider. You can get help paying for childcare including nurseries, childminders, breakfast clubs, after school care and holiday clubs.
The most you can get each month is:
£646.35 for one child
£1,108.04 for 2 or more children
You need to pay your childcare costs up front and claim the money back as part of your payment. You can get support to help you pay your childcare costs up front. Talk to your work coach after you’ve made your claim.
Read more about childcare costs and Universal Credit.
If you have a disability or health condition
How much you’ll get Extra monthly amount
If you have limited capability for work and work-related activity £354.28
If you have limited capability for work and you started your health-related Universal Credit or Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) claim before 3 April 2017 £132.89
If you get the severe disability premium and you’re moving to Universal Credit, you might also be entitled to a ‘transitional protection’ payment.
Read more about health conditions, disability and Universal Credit.
If you care for a disabled person
How much you’ll get Extra monthly amount
If you provide care for at least 35 hours a week for someone who gets a disability-related benefit £168.81
This is on top of any extra amount you get if you have a disabled child.
Housing costs
You could get money to help pay your housing costs. The payment can cover rent and some service charges.
If you’re a homeowner, you might be able to get a loan to help with interest payments on your mortgage.
Money taken off your payment
Your payments might be reduced if any of the following apply:
you are paying back an advance on a Universal Credit payment
you have more than £6,000 in money, savings and investments
you would get above the amount limited by the benefit cap
you’ve been overpaid benefits in the past
you owe money for Council Tax, court fines, electricity, gas, water or Child Maintenance
you pay your gas or electricity bill directly from your Universal Credit payment
you have a paid job
you have other income – for example, money from pensions or certain other benefits

indiepins · 19/11/2022 18:11

@giggly I am not disabled.

But since you work FT, how do you if your child is disabled?

It isn't impossible but people I know who do have rock solid help from family as the respite and family support usually isn't there for severely disabled children.

Most people I know with DC in my son's class and the class up, have one parent doesn't work. Or they're a single parent sadly and definitely don't work

OP posts:
teslaplayer · 19/11/2022 18:11

Fizzadora · 19/11/2022 17:07

You'd have to earn £50k a year to get that.

No you wouldn't. What maths are you doing? More like 38

MetellaInHortoEst · 19/11/2022 18:11

Overthebow · 19/11/2022 17:12

Student loans for my generation take a big chunk out of take home salaries. DH and I pay over £400 between us to or student loans. Beginning to think why did we bother?

Why did you bother? The OP is clearly only getting that much UC because there is very serious disability in the family, (the very high amount of DLA is the clue) and probably high rent too. I imagine OP cannot work because of the above. A horrible situation to be in.

Threadkillacilla · 19/11/2022 18:12

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:09

More comfortable than someone working their arse off every hour they can?

Didn't you rtft? The OP is working her arse off, saving us a fortune and caring ft.

FluffyFluffMonster · 19/11/2022 18:12

@Sniffypete I don't think the op is living a comfortable lifestyle while caring for a disabled child and also working!

Why do people have to be so judgemental and petty! Jealously is a terrible quality.

PollyEsther · 19/11/2022 18:12

These responses are everything that is wrong with the British.

Disabled people in receipt of benefits are NOT your enemy. It's not their fault that wages have been suppressed for the last 15+ years.

Direct your anger the correct way.

OP, all benefits are being uprated by 10.1%, so as a rough guide, increase what you receive by 10% to estimate your income after April 2023.

BadNomad · 19/11/2022 18:13

I wonder how many of the people complaining are paying into a workplace/private pension.

Endwalker · 19/11/2022 18:13

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:09

More comfortable than someone working their arse off every hour they can?

OP is caring full time for a disabled child with high care and high mobility needs.

I can guarantee that she too is working her arse off.

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

girlmom21 · 19/11/2022 18:13

More comfortable than someone working their arse off every hour they can?

Like the OP caring for her disabled son who doesn't sleep through the night and needs 1-1 care, including personal care, for the rest of his life?

danni0509 · 19/11/2022 18:14

Facecream · 19/11/2022 18:01

I have a severely disabled DD. She cannot talk or walk or eat. She is still very active (uses a wheelchair) but cannot do anything for herself.
She is doubly incontinent so will use pads for life.
She cannot raise her arms.
Cannot express when she is in pain.
Barely sleeps.
Will most likely never be able to speak to me.
I don’t get UC because my DH works and we have “savings” - now being spent on adjustments to our home to accommodate her.
I will most likely never work again, if she outlived me.
If she doesn’t, I’m still approaching 50 and have been out of the job market now for five and a half years.
I gave up everything for her. I have no money.
Yes she gets higher rate DLA, I spend the higher rate mobility element on a WAV so I can transport her.
So “my money” is carer’s allowance only - £270 a month. On petrol and phone bills I get close to spending that every month.
My husband’s earnings go on food, bills etc.
Not everyone who has a severely disabled child is lording it up on UC..
And those who do qualify for UC and the various premiums for having a severely disabled child aren’t lording it up either.
We have no holidays or holiday pay.
No sick days (usually my DD is sick and I catch whatever she has).
I have never had a night away from her.
when she gets a chest infection I spend 24 hours in hospital caring for her.
I don’t even get a sandwich from the NHS and have to find and ask a nurse to stay with her to go up the shop to buy their shite.
She sleeps about 6 hours a night.
I have not had any kind of holiday, or date night, or shopping alone even, inn5 and a half years.
Swap you for a badly paid, secure, respected NHS job any fucking day

Bless you. People genuinely don’t realise do they. They see the op getting 2k a month and pile on, they could pay me 20 grand a month and it still wouldn’t be worth the shit I have to do. Literal shit aswell. I always say they should have a separate DLA rate for ds 😅

When a child has disabilities, they grow in to adults with disabilities, I had to give my job up when ds was 3, he’s 9 now and honestly don’t know how I’d work in the future. His specialist school can’t even manage him never mind any outside child care. I tried to put him in a SPECIAL NEEDS holiday club, they read his ehcp and said NO! Wtf.

He’s very unlikely to live independently as an adult. I just think this is my life forever and it’s really depressing. I’m forever resigned to earning carers allowance on less than a quid an hour. No disrespect to my ds, I would do anything for him. Just wish it wasn’t so hard.

Kids grow up and leave home, parents can get back on with their lives, work more hours, meet friends, holiday alone, parents with disabled dcs can’t. And you get paid £69 a week for the pleasure.

@indiepins don’t explain yourself, you don’t get paid nearly enough x

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:14

I’m not having a go at children with disabilities, it’s the folk that deliberately play the system

Threadkillacilla · 19/11/2022 18:14

PollyEsther · 19/11/2022 18:12

These responses are everything that is wrong with the British.

Disabled people in receipt of benefits are NOT your enemy. It's not their fault that wages have been suppressed for the last 15+ years.

Direct your anger the correct way.

OP, all benefits are being uprated by 10.1%, so as a rough guide, increase what you receive by 10% to estimate your income after April 2023.

Someone should start a thread asking these nuggets what their solution would be, I can guess.

MetellaInHortoEst · 19/11/2022 18:15

indiepins · 19/11/2022 18:11

@giggly I am not disabled.

But since you work FT, how do you if your child is disabled?

It isn't impossible but people I know who do have rock solid help from family as the respite and family support usually isn't there for severely disabled children.

Most people I know with DC in my son's class and the class up, have one parent doesn't work. Or they're a single parent sadly and definitely don't work

It’s a mess. I know how much I used to pay for a SN nanny OP. I was very lucky to be able to scrape that up. Before that I had five yearS at home (against my preference).

People who haven’t been there wouldn’t begin to understand. The bulk of the caring usually falls to the women too, who lose out in wages, pension contributions, career development etc forever.

I hope you get a decent uplift and that things get better for you.

Endwalker · 19/11/2022 18:15

Threadkillacilla · 19/11/2022 18:14

Someone should start a thread asking these nuggets what their solution would be, I can guess.

I imagine their solution would probably be of the final variety.

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