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Will be Universal Credit go up this much?

296 replies

indiepins · 19/11/2022 16:39

It's currently around £1920 a month. Am I right in thinking it'll be over £2100 now?

DLA is about £600, so will that go up to £660? And CA is £69 a week so will that low be about £305?

Thank you Smile

OP posts:
iloveyankeecandle · 19/11/2022 17:35

Wow is that how much you have every month?!?!

ImHavingACrisis · 19/11/2022 17:35

Endwalker · 19/11/2022 17:31

You said its not true that the basic element is less than £400 a month as you get more than that for being a single parent with two DC. Your situation qualifies you for more than the basic element as you also have child elements.

Ah right yes I get you, apologies

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 17:36

Endofmyteatherr · 19/11/2022 17:34

OP is being goady and I don't know why poster's are flocking with such little info how they only get a bit more than OP.

We have idea I'd she has huge rent to pay, how many kids or anything buy it does seem goady indeed.

There have been a number of posts recently where people have posted that they get huge amounts of UC and usually it is because they have disabled children, and then it always brings out the worst in other posters.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Endwalker · 19/11/2022 17:36

ImHavingACrisis · 19/11/2022 17:35

Ah right yes I get you, apologies

No apology needed, I think we were both making the same point and got our wires crossed Smile

Thatsnotmycar · 19/11/2022 17:37

Tinkerbyebye · 19/11/2022 17:33

I get she nay have e a disabled child, but so does one of my family members, who, as one works, don’t get anywhere near this

if this is the case I am going to suggest they both stop working

Because of the earnings taper (and work allowance if eligible for one) people are never better off out of work with UC. So if they have lower earnings than the OP and have the same circumstances then they would be eligible for UC top up.

Lollipop999 · 19/11/2022 17:38

JessicaBrassica · 19/11/2022 17:21

I'm a senior health care professional (b6 if anyone cares). That's more than I earn. If that were true then the NHS is closer to the end than we anticipated.

Same here, I am band 7 and my take home pay is £600 per month less than that.

I totally agree with you, it explains why staff are disillusioned and leaving in droves…..

This is unsustainable and needs an overhaul asap.

Endwalker · 19/11/2022 17:38

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 17:35

Well they wouldn't both be able to be a full time carer unless they have 2 disabled children - one would be expected to look for full time work and could be sanctioned for giving up their job to claim benefits.

Don't forget too that OP will need to reapply for the disability benefits every couple of years just in case her child has somehow miraculously cured themselves, and that when they turn 16 they'll be moved over to PIP which is designed to get disabled people off disability benefits.

Guiltycat · 19/11/2022 17:38

These threads always bring out such bitter ignorance from so called ‘professionals’.

Would you really swap your well paying job to be in Op’s position?

You’ll have to keep in mind that high rates of DLA/carer’s allowance only go to severely disabled children/adults and then only if their needs require the parent to be awake/active for many periods during the night.

Are you really jealous of someone that probably is made to feel like a piece of shit whenever they get dragged in front of a job enter jobsworth, all while having to care for a severely disabled child, never having a single hour off, and being terrified for the future.

Oh and you have to add in most of society (the thick ones) sneering at her and her family and vocally making it clear that they would prefer her and her child to be on the brink of starvation, never able to afford any sort of comfort or niceties.

Even when the benefit ‘scrounger’ hating DLA/PIP assessor’s have agreed (probably after being taken to tribunal with a shit ton of medical evidence) that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the op to work to support herself.

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 17:38

BadNomad · 19/11/2022 17:33

UC and DLA/PIP are separate things.

If it makes the shocked people feel any better, she won't get as much when her child becomes an adult. I am a full-time carer to an adult and I get £69.70 carer's allowance and £50.42 UC. That's the maximum. Plus, I will lose the UC if I do any work and have to pay for someone else to provide care. It's shit.

Yes but the disabled young adult then potentially gets around £600 UC plus their PIP on top. So potentially £1000+ per month. So presumably the young person is contributing to the household if living at home?

happyinherts · 19/11/2022 17:39

Because of the earnings taper (and work allowance if eligible for one) people are never better off out of work with UC.

Not quite true - because the cost of getting to work (fares or petrol) is never included in these calculations.

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 17:40

Guiltycat · 19/11/2022 17:38

These threads always bring out such bitter ignorance from so called ‘professionals’.

Would you really swap your well paying job to be in Op’s position?

You’ll have to keep in mind that high rates of DLA/carer’s allowance only go to severely disabled children/adults and then only if their needs require the parent to be awake/active for many periods during the night.

Are you really jealous of someone that probably is made to feel like a piece of shit whenever they get dragged in front of a job enter jobsworth, all while having to care for a severely disabled child, never having a single hour off, and being terrified for the future.

Oh and you have to add in most of society (the thick ones) sneering at her and her family and vocally making it clear that they would prefer her and her child to be on the brink of starvation, never able to afford any sort of comfort or niceties.

Even when the benefit ‘scrounger’ hating DLA/PIP assessor’s have agreed (probably after being taken to tribunal with a shit ton of medical evidence) that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the op to work to support herself.

Carers have no work commitments on UC so are unlikely to be dragged in front of a work coach - unheard of.

Thatsnotmycar · 19/11/2022 17:40

Lollipop999 · 19/11/2022 17:38

Same here, I am band 7 and my take home pay is £600 per month less than that.

I totally agree with you, it explains why staff are disillusioned and leaving in droves…..

This is unsustainable and needs an overhaul asap.

Presumably you don’t have a severely disabled child. If you had the same circumstances as OP and had a lower income you would be eligible for UC too.

indiepins · 19/11/2022 17:40

fleebees · 19/11/2022 17:10

No point in working anymore.

Not when you physically can't there isn't, no

OP posts:
Endwalker · 19/11/2022 17:40

Lollipop999 · 19/11/2022 17:38

Same here, I am band 7 and my take home pay is £600 per month less than that.

I totally agree with you, it explains why staff are disillusioned and leaving in droves…..

This is unsustainable and needs an overhaul asap.

OP is a full time carer for a disabled child. She also asked about DLA and Carers Allowance.

Unpaid carers save the government (and the NHS) around £132 billion each year.

Would you rather all those disabled people requiring 35+ hours of care each week were dumped onto the NHS instead?

palygold · 19/11/2022 17:41

I don't think (or hope) it's intended to be a goady post, but OP is clearly claiming disability benefits, while not high are certainly more than claiming just Universal Credit as a previous thread showed.

Universal credit is far less generous apparently.

indiepins · 19/11/2022 17:41

Can someone explain how I can go working when I have a disabled child to be in standby for and care for? Plus everything else that goes with that

What an odd lot of responses. This isn't a thread for you want to know the ins and outs of why ffs 🤦‍♂️

OP posts:
NippyWoowoo · 19/11/2022 17:42

Fizzadora · 19/11/2022 17:07

You'd have to earn £50k a year to get that.

Lol! I take home just under £2100 and am on just over £32K 🥴

You'd be taking home a grand more on 50k

guidedbythelightt · 19/11/2022 17:42

indiepins · 19/11/2022 17:41

Can someone explain how I can go working when I have a disabled child to be in standby for and care for? Plus everything else that goes with that

What an odd lot of responses. This isn't a thread for you want to know the ins and outs of why ffs 🤦‍♂️

You don't need to explain yourself to anyone on here, OP.

Some of us get it. Some are just ignorant. And some are just mean.

NippyWoowoo · 19/11/2022 17:42

ladywithnomanors · 19/11/2022 17:08

OP is this a deliberately goady post? Many people work full time and dont have that kind of income.

Would you rather be disabled? The OP mentions DLA

Thatsnotmycar · 19/11/2022 17:42

happyinherts · 19/11/2022 17:39

Because of the earnings taper (and work allowance if eligible for one) people are never better off out of work with UC.

Not quite true - because the cost of getting to work (fares or petrol) is never included in these calculations.

I was talking about in terms of income. In that that poster’s relatives wouldn’t have more income by giving up work and claiming UC. They would have less income. They would never have more income and be better off by giving up work.

BadNomad · 19/11/2022 17:43

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 17:38

Yes but the disabled young adult then potentially gets around £600 UC plus their PIP on top. So potentially £1000+ per month. So presumably the young person is contributing to the household if living at home?

That isn't the OP's money, though. That isn't her entitlement. If the adult goes into supported housing or independent accommodation, then no, they won't be contributing to OP's household. She will get what I get.

palygold · 19/11/2022 17:43

And I don't think living on disability benefits, and all that entails, is something to be envious of.

Guiltycat · 19/11/2022 17:43

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 17:40

Carers have no work commitments on UC so are unlikely to be dragged in front of a work coach - unheard of.

I’ve have heard of some of them still trying to and lying to the parent about what is expected of them before.

But even then, take away that one sentence, the points stand.

Who in their right mind would be jealous?

MrNook · 19/11/2022 17:44

cocktailclub · 19/11/2022 17:03

I am sorry I just can't believe universal credit is so much. I work full time in a senior role (although not in a well paid industry) and I don't earn much more than that after tax.

OP claims disability allowance and carers allowance though and should get help with that

Endofmyteatherr · 19/11/2022 17:45

@Lollipop999 your a band 7 taking home £1700??

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