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Just been to visit dh gran in a care home, so depressing

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Wolfscarf · 13/11/2022 17:21

Really makes you think about life

one person was tryig to escape when we arrived
must have had dementia
sayign have you seen my wife have you touched my wife
and o want to go home

then when we left another lady was trying to escape

dh gran is stuck in her v small room alotnof the time as there’s no carers
to take her downstairs then bring her back as they are short staffed all the time

the staff seem lovely but I feel so so bad for them
I don’t know how they do it

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bloodyeverlastinghell · 15/11/2022 18:40

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 13:27

A lack of treatment is not automatically killing someone. What is described as euthanasia is killing someone.
I think people use other terms because they do not want to face up to the fact they are proposing Drs kill people. If you can't even face up to that basic fact, there is no way I can support any proposal to do this.

The meaning of Euthanasia is a painless death for someone or something that is suffering. It comes from Greek and means easy death. I’m happy enough to say Id like a doctor to kill me if I start going down a dementia route. Far kinder than the Liverpool pathway when they withhold fluid and food, sedate you and wait for nature to take its course.

we do like to use euphemisms when it comes to death and that will continue once euthanasia and physician assisted suicide are introduced. It will be a kindness, a mercy, a relief, they are in a better place, it’s what they would of wanted. It’s a part of the British culture, Dutch are
much better are brutal honesty and euthanasia / PAS have been an option there for decades.

Novum · 15/11/2022 18:44

When we were looking into care homes for my grandmother around three years ago, one place we went to was incredibly depressing. The room was quite bare, dark and unwelcoming, and it was almost as if there was a sign above the door saying "You have come here to die". At the time of our visit there was an unpleasant smell and, though I was prepared to make allowances on the basis that someone might have just had an accident, there was absolutely no comment or explanation offered - which made me think that they were all too used to it. What seemed odd was that this home was one of a chain, with all sorts of glossy brochures quoting glowing praise for it; I know people make these things up, but it was surprising that they didn't try to put forward a better picture when trying to persuade people to choose to spend a lot of money with them.

Fortunately we found somewhere much more cheerful and homely for her - if they'd all been like that we'd have given up on the whole idea.

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 18:45

The Liverpool pathway has been abolished after so many people suffered.

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bloodyeverlastinghell · 15/11/2022 19:22

antelopevalley · 15/11/2022 18:45

The Liverpool pathway has been abolished after so many people suffered.

That’s true but the individual care plans that replaced it often follow the same path. Dying people often can’t tolerate food or fluid. It causes them to balloon up with swelling. My bosses wife was dying of cancer 2 years ago and they withdrew food/ fluid and sedated her. She had severe oedema and her family watched her shrivel away in a hospital bed being pumped full of drugs for more than a week at the end.

It would of been much kinder to kill her tbh. Or euthanise her. Or any number of polite euphemisms.

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