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Who will Rishi Sunak have on his cabinet?

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TicketToRideFan · 24/10/2022 14:06

And will this finally rid of us Jacob Rees Mogg and his ilk?

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RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:12

Above should read:

(Promise to unite with action not word)

MarshaBradyo · 25/10/2022 12:13

I’ll have to hear statement later but glad it went down well

CeeJay81 · 25/10/2022 12:15

Heard our mp Craig Williams is going to be his private palimentary secretary. It pains me to say it but it's one of the safest tory seats. God knows why people vote Tory here in rural Wales.

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:22

Sunak needs to look like he has Johnson supporters. He can't have a Cabinet stuffed with only his own supporters.

Cleverly was also a major Truss supporter (hence getting Foreign Sec in the first place) so I guess that would cover both bases. It does show he's really not a Rishi fan though, having rejected that option twice in a row.

Plus Mordaunt is angling for Foreign, and rumours of Raab.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:26

George Parker AT GeorgeWParker
This is significant. If the OBR can be convinced that Sunak/Hunt have a grip - and that there won't be a political chaos premium on gilt yields - that will reduce the size of the fiscal hole to be filled next week by tax rises and spending cuts

www.ft.com/content/a5758ce9-f8f3-4013-aa97-81ff3db3eaf2
Gilt yields return to levels before mini-Budget
Prices rally as markets react with relief to Sunak’s victory in leadership contest

The 30-year gilt yield fell to 3.68 per cent, extending its price rise on Monday as markets reacted with relief to Sunak’s emergence as the sole candidate for the Conservative party leadership.

The move means long-term bonds, which were at the centre of a chaotic sell-off last month that prompted emergency intervention from the Bank of England, have recovered the losses triggered by Liz Truss’s package of tax cuts.

Yields on the 30-year bond, which had surged as investors worried about the UK’s hefty borrowing needs, traded at 3.75 per cent before the former prime minister’s fiscal plans were unveiled on September 23.

Two-year gilts have also recovered their post-budget losses, trading at 3.35 per cent on Tuesday. Ten-year gilt yields remain slightly higher at 3.69 per cent, compared with 3.50 per cent on September 23.

“On the face of it this suggests the last month has been a waking nightmare, and we’re back to where we would have been if Rishi Sunak had won the Tory leadership in the first place,” said James Athey, a fixed-income portfolio manager at Abrdn.

and

If Sunak confirms he will retain chancellor Jeremy Hunt — whose scrapping of most of Truss’s tax cuts helped restore order to the gilt market last week — then UK government bonds could rally further, analysts say. Sunak is seen by investors as far more likely to back the new chancellor’s fiscal plans.

“The market hope is that Sunak, a former chancellor of the exchequer and architect of tax rises that were subsequently reversed by the ill-fated mini-budget, will err on the side of fiscal caution,” said Antoine Bouvet, a rates strategist at ING.

So expectation is taxes higher but this will mean that interest rates stabilise and this should also stablise inflation as the pound will trade higher (so imports - particularly food and fuel - are cheaper).

Higher taxes reduce the need for cuts being as deep.

Given the reasons why Truss was SOOOO unpopular, he SHOULD see a popularity boost from policy not just a honeymoon period.

HOWEVER he has to push this past his own party first.

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:27

Jacob Rees Mogg is ready and willing to take office.

What a self-serving prick.

Who will Rishi Sunak have on his cabinet?
RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:29

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:22

Sunak needs to look like he has Johnson supporters. He can't have a Cabinet stuffed with only his own supporters.

Cleverly was also a major Truss supporter (hence getting Foreign Sec in the first place) so I guess that would cover both bases. It does show he's really not a Rishi fan though, having rejected that option twice in a row.

Plus Mordaunt is angling for Foreign, and rumours of Raab.

TBH I thought that Truss's Cabinet was actually pretty good on the whole. There are some very obvious exceptions to this, but they struck me as being largely strategic anyway.

Raab could be Deputy PM again. He did ok there (and can't fuck things up too much there either!).

Mordaunt as Foreign is all kinds of UGH. She can stay as Leader of the Commons. Again, she's done a good job there... (and can't do a lot of harm)

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:31

Mogg however can be the newly created Minister of Highly Irrelevant Bullshit to shut him up.

Or just toss him to the backbenchs to stand up occassionally huffing about tradition and protocol like he used to.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:32

Sunak just went on about integrity.

If he appoints either Zahawi or Mogg....

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:32

I thought that Truss's Cabinet was actually pretty good on the whole

Braverman as home sec? Coffey as health?!

And let's not forget Kwarteng's stellar success as chancellor.

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:34

Why are you picking on Zahawi? Don't think he's Mogg level.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:35

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:32

I thought that Truss's Cabinet was actually pretty good on the whole

Braverman as home sec? Coffey as health?!

And let's not forget Kwarteng's stellar success as chancellor.

I did say on the whole with obvious exceptions for tactical reasons!

Croque · 25/10/2022 12:35

Overt cronyism isn't going to cut it this time around. He is going to have to retain frenemies or they will turn on him sooner. It is all part of papering over the cracks.
In terms of prime ministerial style, I also get the impression that we have returned to the age of spin and soundbyte.

PurplePansy05 · 25/10/2022 12:37

My bets are on Gove, Hunt, Mordaunt, Wallace, Javid and possibly Theresa May.

One thing I am pretty sure of is that apart from a tiny minority, we will all become significantly poorer under his premiership and I find it very worrying.

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:37

Those are the major posts though, Red!

Gullis as schools minister was v v unpopular. Maybe we could see the return of Nick Gibb.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:43

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:34

Why are you picking on Zahawi? Don't think he's Mogg level.

Cos he's shown a staggering lack of intrigrity.

He called for JOhnson to quit. Then became Chancellor. Then called him to quit again. Then supported him for PM.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:44

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:37

Those are the major posts though, Red!

Gullis as schools minister was v v unpopular. Maybe we could see the return of Nick Gibb.

They are. It was still a better Cabinet than some of Mays / Johnsons!

We are working from a low bar here!

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:44

Yeah but he saw a more contrite Boris 2.0, Red, you've got to take that into account. Wink

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:45

It was still a better Cabinet than some of Mays / Johnsons!

Which reminds me of rumours that Sir Gavin Williamson might make a return. That man shouldn't be allowed to even be milk monitor.

Fushiadreams · 25/10/2022 12:45

I also think this is going to be a heavy hitting cabinet and we are going to see the big names in there in key positions,

so it will be hunt, Wallace, mordaunt, shapps, and we might see raab, Javid etc.

I think he’s going to bring out the big guns. It’s going to be a big name cabinet of heavy hitters.

I suspect we won’t see boris though,,,

FuckabethFuckor · 25/10/2022 12:48

I think Mordaunt needs to be in one of the great offices of state. Probably Foreign Office. Or maybe lined up for chancellor next time there's a reshuffle and Sunak can get rid of Hunt.

She has a big chunk of support within the parliamentary party (as evidenced by her performance in the last leadership contest) and she has a lot of grassroots member support too. She will likely be the 'stop Boris' candidate next time there's a leadership contest.

That recent video — the Portsmouth one — was a smart piece of positioning. And I'm saying that as someone who is not a natural Conservative voter.

FuckabethFuckor · 25/10/2022 12:49

I suspect we won’t see boris though,,,

No, he's got a holiday to finish.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2022 12:50

BBC just said Mogg has resigned - out of the Cabinet officially

You may cheer now.

BattenburgSlice · 25/10/2022 12:50

Old haunted pencil Smogg has resigned 😂

noblegiraffe · 25/10/2022 12:50

What a state we are in when Raab is seriously being listed as a big name or heavy hitter.

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