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Ukraine Invasion: Part 34

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MagicFox · 23/10/2022 21:29

Welcome all πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

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Autumnnewname · 09/11/2022 14:12

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 09/11/2022 13:40

Update on Stremousov:

NEXTA
@nexta_tv
‼️The administration of the annexed part of the Kherson region confirmed the death of Kirill Stremousov.

Gauleiter's death is also confirmed by the Kremlin state media.

We will not miss him.

Good

Autumnnewname · 09/11/2022 14:20

Or stremousov has been spirited away to somewhere in Russia so he doesn't have to face up to his war crimes.

Hancox432 · 09/11/2022 14:31

No doubt Russia will play this off as a some good will gesture as the references to negotiations have ramped up in recent days.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 09/11/2022 14:45

Hancox432 · 09/11/2022 14:31

No doubt Russia will play this off as a some good will gesture as the references to negotiations have ramped up in recent days.

Thinking the same. ""The Russian Federation is ready to negotiate with Ukraine, taking into account the realities that are developing at the moment," Zakharova, a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, said 🀑"

Yeah, the reality that Russia is developing into a worse mess every day!

About the bioengineered mosquitos:
twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1589992729273978880

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2022 15:02

Noel at noelreports
AFU forces reportedly entered Kalynivs'ke, Kherson region. Waiting for visuals

Thats yet another settlement to add to the list.

Starting to look like a full front collapse if its not a retreat...

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 09/11/2022 15:18

Dmitri
@wartranslated
⚑️Surovikin: We are withdrawing to the left bank of Dnieper

Dmitri
@wartranslated
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1m
Replying to

@wartranslated
⚑️Surovikin: The most sensible option is to organize defense along the barrier line of the Dnieper River.
Shoygu: Agreed.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 09/11/2022 15:22

Seems to be confirmed

MissConductUS · 09/11/2022 15:25

If this is true, it means that sound military judgment has triumphed over the desire to limit embarrassment and political damage. That would be quite out of character for Putin.

Hancox432 · 09/11/2022 15:30

Reported withdrawal on BBC news now!

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 09/11/2022 15:33

It also means that Prigozhin's desperate attempts to take Bahkmut look even more stupid - his bid for power more blatant and therefore more dangerous to Putin.

it also means that Putin, who has tolerated all the criticisms of the Russian Army Leadership, has given his support to this decision by the Russian Forces General. That's a vote of confidence in them, when actually he's been allowing Prigozhin and Goat-Shagger a whole shit load of leeway to the point it looks like they're more influential over him than Surovikin.

This withdrawal weakens Prizogzhin too.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2022 15:46

Hancox432 · 09/11/2022 15:30

Reported withdrawal on BBC news now!

There is now official confirmation coming from the Russian army that all major news outlets are quoting that they intend to withdraw across the river.

This has been rumoured was going to happen today or tomorrow for a good week.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2022 16:10

Mick Ryan AT warinthefuture
Interesting report of a possible Russian withdrawal in Kherson, most likely from the west bank of the Dniepr. A short thread with some observations. 1 /8

2/ First, this announcement was made by the military and not Putin. Ceding territory should be a political decision; this is more evidence of Putin is clearly setting up the military as the fall guys for the Russian debacle in Ukraine.

3/ Second, is this real or possibly part of a deception campaign to draw the Ukrainians into a fight the Russians have prepared for? My sense is it is the real deal. Even if the Russians are well prepared on the West Bank, their position is ultimately difficult to sustain.

4/ Third, the pace and organization of any Russian withdrawal - given this should be a deliberate activity - will tell us much about the morale and capability of the Russian forces in the south.

5/ Fourth, given the time the Russians have had to prepare this withdrawal, they may not be leaving behind as much equipment and munitions dumps as they did in the Kharkiv offensive. Therefore it may not be a bonanza of recovering enemy equipment for the Ukrainians.

6/ Fifth, the Russians may accompany this withdrawal with stepped up strategic strikes elsewhere in Ukraine. From a Russian perspective, this is payback but will also provide strategic comms material to distract a Russian audience from the Kherson withdrawal & loss of territory.

7/ This is important. Having told the Russian people, in the annexation declaration, that Kherson is part of Russia, Putin will need a story to justify the withdrawal and distract the domestic audience from it.

8/ Finally, if a withdrawal does take place, the locations to which withdrawn troops are deployed will provide insights into their combat status as well as General Surovikin’s priorities for the winter and early 2023.

9/ These are initial thoughts only. There are still many uncertainties about this potential withdrawal. The coming days will provide better clarity. End.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 09/11/2022 16:12

I want to see pictures of Ukrainian soldiers being hugged by relieved Kherson civilians.
With watermelons.

RedToothBrush · 09/11/2022 16:16

Max Seddon AT Max Seddon
You get a taste of the Russian army's culture of ass-kissing and telling the boss everything's going great from Surovikin's speech.

He claims Russia is "successfully resisting all of the Ukrainian armed forces' attempts to attack near Kherson" – then says they have to retreat!

MissConductUS · 09/11/2022 16:53

They are victoriously retreating while the Ukrainians follow them out of panic.

/s

TyotyaKlava · 09/11/2022 16:56

Π”Π°Π²Π°ΠΉΡ‚Π΅ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ:

  • российская армия Π½Π΅ ΡƒΡ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚ ΠΈΠ· Π₯Срсона.

Она Π’Π«Π‘Π˜Π’Π ΠΈΠ· Π₯Срсона Π‘ΠΈΠ»Π°ΠΌΠΈ ΠžΠ±ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ½Ρ‹ Π£ΠΊΡ€Π°ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹.

Π’Ρ‹Π±ΠΈΡ‚Π° с тяТёлыми боями, с потСрями, ΠΌΠ΅Ρ‚ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‡Π½Ρ‹ΠΌ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ³Ρ€Ρ‹Π·Π°Π½ΠΈΠ΅ΠΌ ΠΎΠ±ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ½Ρ‹ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡ‚ΠΈΠ²Π½ΠΈΠΊΠ°, Ρ€Π°Π±ΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΉ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€Π΅ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²Π°ΠΌ, тяТёлым ΠΈ ΠΊΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π°Π²Ρ‹ΠΌ Π²ΠΎΠ΅Π½Π½Ρ‹ΠΌ Ρ‚Ρ€ΡƒΠ΄ΠΎΠΌ.

Π£Π²Π°ΠΆΠ°Π΅ΠΌΡ‹Π΅ хСрсонцы.

Π’ΠΎΡ‚ ΠΌΡ‹ ΠΈ возвращаСмся.

Π’ΠΎΡ‚ Π²Ρ‹ ΠΈ Π²ΠΎΠ·Π²Ρ€Π°Ρ‰Π°Π΅Ρ‚Π΅ΡΡŒ.

Π”ΠΎΠ±Ρ€ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠΆΠ°Π»ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π΄ΠΎΠΌΠΎΠΉ.

β€”β€”-

Π‘ΠΎΠΈ Π½Π° ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΎΠΌ Π±Π΅Ρ€Π΅Π³Ρƒ Π΅Ρ‰Ρ‘ Π±ΡƒΠ΄ΡƒΡ‚ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ Π½Π΅ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ΅ врСмя.

А послС Π΅Ρ‰Ρ‘ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ нСпростой ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€ΠΈΠΎΠ΄ стабилизационных мСроприятий.

TyotyaKlava · 09/11/2022 16:56

Love this post from Arestovych

Saisong · 09/11/2022 17:03

Translate:
Let's get it right:
the Russian army is not withdrawing from Kherson.
It was knocked out of Kherson by the Defense Forces of Ukraine.
It was knocked out with heavy fighting, with losses, methodical gnawing through the enemy's defenses, work on crossings, hard and bloody military labor.
Dear Kherson residents.
So we're back.
So you're coming back.
Welcome home.
β€”β€”-
Fighting on the right bank will continue for some time.
And then there will be a difficult period of stabilization measures.

TyotyaKlava · 09/11/2022 17:06

Saisong · 09/11/2022 17:03

Translate:
Let's get it right:
the Russian army is not withdrawing from Kherson.
It was knocked out of Kherson by the Defense Forces of Ukraine.
It was knocked out with heavy fighting, with losses, methodical gnawing through the enemy's defenses, work on crossings, hard and bloody military labor.
Dear Kherson residents.
So we're back.
So you're coming back.
Welcome home.
β€”β€”-
Fighting on the right bank will continue for some time.
And then there will be a difficult period of stabilization measures.

Thank you! I was too emotional to translate ❀️

blueshoes · 09/11/2022 17:16

'Welcome home'

So moving. Thanks @TyotyaKlava and @Saisong. I do hope Zelensky can say those 2 words to every Ukrainian soon.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 09/11/2022 17:20

blueshoes · 09/11/2022 17:16

'Welcome home'

So moving. Thanks @TyotyaKlava and @Saisong. I do hope Zelensky can say those 2 words to every Ukrainian soon.

Stop it, you’re making me cry.

TheABC · 09/11/2022 17:25

This is brilliant news and I am so glad to hear it.

Having said that, I am nervously waiting for the other shoe to drop. The Russians don't strike me as magnanimous losers.

MMBaranova · 09/11/2022 17:42

Withdrew / Pushed Out / Pushed Out and Fled.

We now have three situations where the Russian forces have left temporarily occupied areas.

  1. Withdrew from the North East having failed to take Kyiv from Russia and Belarus. Left behind the horrors of Bucha and other evil acts.
  2. Pushed out of occupied areas of Kherson Oblast and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk.
  3. Pushed out of parts of the right bank of Kherson Oblast and now there's a flight from the rest of the occupied right bank including the city itself.

Holding the occupied left bank areas of Kherson will be less of a challenge for now, given the obstacle the Dnipro river is.

blueshoes · 09/11/2022 17:48

TheABC · 09/11/2022 17:25

This is brilliant news and I am so glad to hear it.

Having said that, I am nervously waiting for the other shoe to drop. The Russians don't strike me as magnanimous losers.

Quite. I hope it is not the Nova Khakova dam although I am sure Russia can do even worse.

MissConductUS · 09/11/2022 18:05

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 09/11/2022 14:45

Thinking the same. ""The Russian Federation is ready to negotiate with Ukraine, taking into account the realities that are developing at the moment," Zakharova, a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, said 🀑"

Yeah, the reality that Russia is developing into a worse mess every day!

About the bioengineered mosquitos:
twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1589992729273978880

I've just had a bit of a light bulb moment. I wonder if the "realities that are developing at the moment" are not just the loss of Kherson City but also the US midterm elections. Perhaps Putin was hoping that far right-wing Republicans would sweep into power and shut off US aid to Ukraine.

Now they know that Ukraine will almost certainly continue to receive a high level of military and financial support from the US for the next two years.