Ukraine Invasion: Part 33

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Starting this at 980 on the other thread because it's late and I might miss the tipping point. We're moving fast at the moment, thanks all for the analysis, insight and company

I think they are anticipating that the withdrawal from Kherson is imminent. I have a bad feeling that they'll just level the city then...

Alternatively are they planning something particularly horrific for Kherson?

mobile.twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1580495444152504320 Russians, allegedly killed their commander and surrendered

I don't think Putin is willing to accept another big defeat. They may want the civilians out so that they don't have to feed them. With supplies coming in by ferry or on pontoon bridges, they'll struggle to supply their own troops.

There may be a very few who want to go but given that Russia has forcibly conscripted many elsewhere and forcibly relocated many, including from Mariupol who didn't want to go, and sending them to Siberia ... No, the numbers of the willing-relocated are going to be very small, imv

Ah! Nothing new under the sun.

De lurking to say that it was announced on TV that the Queen’s bees were told personally of her death, hive by hive.

I’ve read these threads since the first one and that’s the first time I’ve been able to add anything! My thanks to all contributors, I’ve learned so much.

I always think I've been as shocked as I can possibly be but the evil forced adoption of children - telling them their parents don't want them - has actually finished me off

The Telegraph reported today (on the Ukraine: The Latest podcast) that the AMRAAM-ER is going to be supplied to be used in a surface to air mode with the NASAMS's.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASAMS

mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1580570576099450882 associated press report on the forced adoption of Ukrainian children

Good lord. Elsewhere on MN I sometimes post interesting bits from old newspapers – but I hope you don't mind me popping this one on here.

It seems... strangely familiar...

From the Caledonian Mercury, 1 May 1794.

RUSSIANS DEFEATED BY POLES.
Cracow, April 6.
The day before yesterday, which was the 4th instant, at a village called Raclawica, which is about seven German miles from Cracow, on the road to Warsaw, General Kozieusko met with a body of Russian troops, consisting of about six thousand men, with a park of heavy artillery, who were marching against Cracow, for the purpose of reducing it. They were headed by the Russian General Turmanzo, and advanced in three columns to attack the Poles with great impetuosity.

Some squadrons of the Polish cavalry were defeated at the first onset; but their infantry, led on by General Kozieusko in person, and supported by the whole body of the peasants, attached the Russian centre with such a spirit of desperation, that the line was immediately broken, and a dreadful carnage of the Russian troops ensued, the peasants refusing to give any quarter. The Russian corps de reserve then attempted to take the Poles in flank; but this plan was rendered abortive by the vigilance and coolness of General Kozieusko, and it was likewise completely defeated, and the whole Russian army dispersed.

Colonel Woronzow was taken prisoner. Upwards of a thousand Russians were killed upon the field, while the Poles lost only 60 men in killed, and about 80 wounded. The Russians likewise lost eleven pieces of heavy cannon, and all their ammunition.

Sandunesandseashells ·Today 22:07

ScrollingLeaves · Today 19:17
By coincidence, today I was listening to a radio programme about funerals and heard something I’d never known before about how important it was to let the family’s bees know about the death. They were considered to be at the heart of the family.

These Ukrainian bees evidently were!🐝🐝🐝🐝🌻🌻🌻🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

folklorethursday.com/folklife/telling-the-bees-the-folklore-of-bees-and-beekeeping/

De lurking to say that it was announced on TV that the Queen’s bees were told personally of her death, hive by hive.

I’ve read these threads since the first one and that’s the first time I’ve been able to add anything! My thanks to all contributors, I’ve learned so much.

What a lovely thing to hear about, thank you.

I'm seeing a definite pattern here 🤔😄

Perhaps they need to find a more meaningful way of living.

Russia just needs to stop invading other European countries. Those countries tend to defend to the hilt against incompetent Russians. Nowadays, wars seems to be fought with much more agility, tech and skill, which the Ukrainians are exhibiting shedloads of. Russia does not nurture and educate its people enough to fully take advantage of these advances.

@notimagain, I also assumed that the AMRAAM would be used in their traditional air to air role and that Raytheon would have to find a way to install them on the Russian aircraft Ukraine flies. As this article discusses, the AMRAAM is the primary missile used in the NASAMS batteries, which means that Ukraine will benefit from the thousands of them NATO has in inventory. The AMRAAM-ER (extended range) is quite new and expands the coverage envelope considerably. NASAMS can also fire the AIM9 Sidewinder, which NATO also has thousands of.

The Common Missile NASAMS Uses Is Its Biggest Advantage For Ukraine (Updated) - With Ukraine facing a major drone and missile threat, the fact that NASAMS uses the same missile as what allied fighter jets carry, is key

Interesting to see the rebuke from Ben Wallace to Macron re the dismissal of using French nukes. Not that it really matters given the overarching NATO position.

I don't understand why you are so obsessive over battlefield details? None of them will matter if/when Russia escalates and puts us in a position where we have to respond militarily? Then the doctrine stating the use of NW can be justified. Does this not scare you?

@igorsushko. The #FSB civil war has begun. All FSB agents responsible for arresting the son of Igor Zubov, Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of #Russia, have themselves now been arrested & being forced to confess that charges against Denis Zubov were fabricated. Son & FSB in same prison 😳. twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1580800117250015232?s=46&t=Ud5grdySyuSPdBRwBq9m_g

@tadeuszgiczan In Belarus, a decision has been taken to begin a covert mobilisation, Nasha Niva reports citing several Belarusian army officers (a reliable source). It will reportedly take place under the guise of combat readiness checks and reservist call-ups.( this is a journalist from Belarus): twitter.com/tadeuszgiczan/status/1580616137473024000?s=46&t=Ud5grdySyuSPdBRwBq9m_g

Thanks, I'd missed the compatibility - every day is a school day.

Rgds

No

In a word, no. Stop scaremongering.

Happy Day Of Ukrainian Defenders, everyone!

No. Not scared of Putin and his army. Living in a remake of 1984? Yes.That scares me.

Another ammunition depo has gone up in flames in Belgorod.

Reports too that Elon Musk has asked the Pentagon to say that he can no longer afford to keep funding Starlink in UK and asking them to take over funding. The word bullshit comes to mind, no chance one of the richest men and companies in the World can't afford it.

Losing Starlink would be a big loss to the Ukrainians.