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Does anybody work at EY?

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MrsKipling16 · 11/10/2022 19:05

I’ve seen a role on the careers page that I’m potentially interested in, however, there’s no salary listed.

I’ve called the helpline number to ask, and the response I got was “we don’t share the salary until you’ve successfully completed the assessment” - I explained to the recruitment advisor that I wouldn’t want to waste mine on their time by going through an assessment process without knowing what the range was given that it’s a senior role, and in my experience, different organisations use different job titles and have different structures therefore it’s hard to gauge how “senior” the role is and that what I was hoping for was an indication - e.g. “pays between x and y dependent on experience” type thing.

I could complete my candidate profile (which the website suggests will take approx 30 minutes) and hope that I could get the salary range at this stage of the process, but given today’s experience, I’m not sure if I’m right for EY/they’re right for me - I’m not unhappy in current role, was just idly perusing and thought the opportunity sounded interesting! Annual leave allowance and pension contributions were available for me to see, and are less that what I get now, hence being keen to understand the salary before taking further.

Happy to PM a link to the role if anyone might be willing/able to give an indication of pay range? TIA

OP posts:
TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

ChelseaRobertsofMalibu · 11/10/2022 19:34

What on earth is EY?

SheWoreYellow · 11/10/2022 19:36

Oh Ernst and Young.

Have you looked on Glassdoor? Sometimes that helps.

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Leakingroofagain · 11/10/2022 19:36

This contributes to gender inequality in pay.

MightyOaks · 11/10/2022 19:36

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

Well that's ludicrous, not to mention unfair! Why would people want to go through the stress of the interviewing process, only to potentially discover that the salary just won’t make ends meet?
Bonkers

findingsomeone · 11/10/2022 19:37

ChelseaRobertsofMalibu · 11/10/2022 19:34

What on earth is EY?

Ernst and Young

NotMyDayJob · 11/10/2022 19:38

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

And in my experience as a senior manager that's a load of nonsense

ChangePlease · 11/10/2022 19:38

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

What a load of tosh. As if a senior person is going to waste their time getting as far as offer state before having any indication of the package. And not be driven by the money - ha!

Chewbecca · 11/10/2022 19:38

What is the title? Generally below partner is director, senior manager, manager. Is it one of those levels?

ChangePlease · 11/10/2022 19:39

*stage

vinoandbrie · 11/10/2022 19:39

What’s the job title, and where in the country is it?

Stretchandsnap · 11/10/2022 19:39

@MrsKipling16 feel free to PM me

Chewbecca · 11/10/2022 19:40

You can then Google the ballpark salary e.g. if you Google EY director salary UK you can see it’s around £145, SM is around £95k.

findingsomeone · 11/10/2022 19:40

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

Yeah this is just ridiculous. And why I would never apply to your company. Unless you're talking 100k+ salaries, most people will not be in a position to simply overlook a lower salary. I earn £65k and I couldn't afford to 'overlook' my next job having a lower salary just because I liked the company. That doesn't pay my mortgage. And I would say I earn reasonably well...

findingsomeone · 11/10/2022 19:42

Oh and I'm public sector, so hardly money driven 😂

Physing · 11/10/2022 19:43

Some companies have stopped advertising salary ranges or asking what salary you are on before making you offers. This is because it is considered that by doing this certain groups who are underpaid today (eg women, low socio economic, ethnic minorities) will persist in being underpaid.

If you give an idea of the title people with experience of EY or one of the other big 4 could give you an idea of possible range.

ContadoraExplorer · 11/10/2022 20:07

Physing · 11/10/2022 19:43

Some companies have stopped advertising salary ranges or asking what salary you are on before making you offers. This is because it is considered that by doing this certain groups who are underpaid today (eg women, low socio economic, ethnic minorities) will persist in being underpaid.

If you give an idea of the title people with experience of EY or one of the other big 4 could give you an idea of possible range.

By hiding salaries, surely that has the opposite effect?

If a company is up front about the range it allows the applicant to decide if its suitable for them - as others have said, what's the point in going through a rigorous application to discover the salary is £10k less than you're currently on - and to a certain extent controls the amount that the company pays, regardless of gender or ethnicity etc.?

Rainraindontgoaway · 11/10/2022 20:16

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

What a very odd and out dated approach to recruitment.

Pinkyxx · 11/10/2022 20:18

I recently interviewed at EY for a role and received an offer. While the entire process of interviewing put me off EY completely, the salary was disappointing for the role and not at a level I'd even vaguely entertain. Ended up being a complete waste of my time.. first and last time I'll interview for a role without at least knowing the salary range!

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 11/10/2022 20:33

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

Sounds manipulative to me. "We're not interested in paying a fair market rate, we want suckers. If you're foolish enough to fall for our bullshit then we're pretty sure we can over-work you while also under-paying you."

MarshaBradyo · 11/10/2022 20:36

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

That is a really bad strategy

mackthepony · 11/10/2022 20:38

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself

^

Ah yeah 😂😂

Plus, gym membership? FYI no-one gives a shit about stuff like that. They want to know how much they're paid.

OP, go to kmpg or elsewhere

Kite22 · 11/10/2022 20:42

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

How ridiculous.
As if anyone is going to waste time applying for a job when they don't know what the salary range is.

spuddy56 · 11/10/2022 20:43

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

That's completely bonkers. I would never ever work somewhere where they couldn't offer basic transparency and an honest conversation. Not advertising salaries is also know to disadvantage women.

UpTheAnte · 11/10/2022 20:45

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

Loads of employers offer all that, you're a long way behind the times if you think that you are offering something special enough to cover up a crap salary!
Imagine househunting but the price being kept a secret until you"d decided you wanted to buy it.
The logic is baffling.