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Does anybody work at EY?

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MrsKipling16 · 11/10/2022 19:05

I’ve seen a role on the careers page that I’m potentially interested in, however, there’s no salary listed.

I’ve called the helpline number to ask, and the response I got was “we don’t share the salary until you’ve successfully completed the assessment” - I explained to the recruitment advisor that I wouldn’t want to waste mine on their time by going through an assessment process without knowing what the range was given that it’s a senior role, and in my experience, different organisations use different job titles and have different structures therefore it’s hard to gauge how “senior” the role is and that what I was hoping for was an indication - e.g. “pays between x and y dependent on experience” type thing.

I could complete my candidate profile (which the website suggests will take approx 30 minutes) and hope that I could get the salary range at this stage of the process, but given today’s experience, I’m not sure if I’m right for EY/they’re right for me - I’m not unhappy in current role, was just idly perusing and thought the opportunity sounded interesting! Annual leave allowance and pension contributions were available for me to see, and are less that what I get now, hence being keen to understand the salary before taking further.

Happy to PM a link to the role if anyone might be willing/able to give an indication of pay range? TIA

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MrsMitford3 · 12/10/2022 09:14

My DC has just happily handed in notice to EY (Northern role) because at a graduate level it "looks good on CV" but pay is poor.
A bit like a gym membership- "good on CV" doesn't pay the rent.

We are in a slightly different economic time than when things like that mattered as much as perks...

Nothing wrong with expecting to know the rough parameters of pay-I'd be surprised if someone didn't want to know.

eurochick · 12/10/2022 09:16

Not stating a salary range is often a bad sign. In my area (law) salaries are often published for the junior levels but not for more senior roles. Imo this contributes to the significant gender pay gap that prevails in most law firms. Transparency is important for pay parity.

The firms would no doubt say that they don't publish salary as it will be individually negotiated based on experience and other factors, but that just compounds pay inequalities as men tend to negotiate harder.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 09:32

MrsMitford3 · 12/10/2022 09:14

My DC has just happily handed in notice to EY (Northern role) because at a graduate level it "looks good on CV" but pay is poor.
A bit like a gym membership- "good on CV" doesn't pay the rent.

We are in a slightly different economic time than when things like that mattered as much as perks...

Nothing wrong with expecting to know the rough parameters of pay-I'd be surprised if someone didn't want to know.

This is big4 in a nutshell. Great on your CV, but they have never paid well when compared to equivalent roles (in commitment, skills, qualifications etc.) elsewhere.

Unless you make partner, that is. People often stay because the partner carrot is being dangled in front of them in the long term.

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Bobshhh · 12/10/2022 09:51

A friend of mine is a manager at EY (£65k) being promoted to senior manager and I can safely say the hours she works are nowhere near reflected in her salary. I've had a couple of people suggest I move there and I have 0 interest.

ShirleyPhallus · 12/10/2022 10:03

Naginia · 11/10/2022 22:12

In that case, I'm not showing you my cv until you offer me a role.

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In my experience, companies that are obsessed with knowing your previous work experience are very driven by you doing the role advertised and I want to work for an employer with a good employee culture

ShirleyPhallus · 12/10/2022 10:05

TreeLine6 · 12/10/2022 08:30

@PatientlyWaiting21

Sorry, but we do lay the right salary for the right candidate. There is no such thing as market salary- each candidate has different skills and experience and will be paid accordingly by us.

Clearly we will offer someone currently in a senior role at a competitor well above ‘market rate’ to join us. Others may need more moulding and development- we will pay accordingly.

Ime candidates who are obsessed with earning ‘market salary’ will be off like a shot the minute a company down the street increases pay.

Ime candidates who are obsessed with earning ‘market salary’ will be off like a shot the minute a company down the street increases pay.

brilliant, good for them. Pay your employees what they are worth

PatientlyWaiting21 · 12/10/2022 10:08

TreeLine6 · 12/10/2022 08:30

@PatientlyWaiting21

Sorry, but we do lay the right salary for the right candidate. There is no such thing as market salary- each candidate has different skills and experience and will be paid accordingly by us.

Clearly we will offer someone currently in a senior role at a competitor well above ‘market rate’ to join us. Others may need more moulding and development- we will pay accordingly.

Ime candidates who are obsessed with earning ‘market salary’ will be off like a shot the minute a company down the street increases pay.

A happy employee does not leave a company. I’ll leave you with that thought @TreeLine6

Octomore · 12/10/2022 10:54

On the topic of benefits - one thing that's worth being aware of is that, unless you're a partner, the big4 tend to pay pretty much the bare minimum in employer pension contributions. Their contributions were easily the lowest of anywhere I've worked, by a long way.

Worth factoring in, as pension can be a significant part of the package in some places.

They will usually pay private medical cover etc. though.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 10:55

On the topic of benefits - one thing that's worth being aware of is that, unless you're a partner, the big4 tend to pay pretty much the bare minimum in employer pension contributions. Their contributions were easily the lowest of anywhere I've worked, by a long way.

Worth factoring in, as pension can be a significant part of the package in some places.

They will usually pay private medical cover etc. though.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 10:56

(The reason they get away with the low pension benefit is because the average member of the big4 workforce is very young. I think the average age is 20s usually, due to the large population of juniors.)

Jemimapuddleduk · 12/10/2022 11:01

This is nonsense. Partners at the big 4 are deemed self employed and have to sort their own pensions, they are no longer part of the pension scheme. I know as I have a family member in such position and used to work at one of the big 4.

Jemimapuddleduk · 12/10/2022 11:02

Replying to Octomore

Jemimapuddleduk · 12/10/2022 11:02

This is nonsense. Partners at the big 4 are deemed self employed and have to sort their own pensions, they are no longer part of the pension scheme. I know as I have a family member in such position and used to work at one of the big 4.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 11:03

But you can't disagree that the pension benefits for staff are appalling, surely? They pay pretty much the legal minimum until you reach the age of (I think) 40.

Easily the worst pension benefit of anywhere I or my DH has worked.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 11:04

Middle tier firms are no better either - from talking to others in my industry they also pay very low employer contributions.

Jemimapuddleduk · 12/10/2022 11:05

I agree with you on that and definitely compared to public sector. There is no way I would recommend the big 4 to my children.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 11:05

I'd say that's pretty important information for anyone considering a move into a large accountancy firm, big4 or otherwise. If the industry they are currently in pays (e.g.) 10% employer pension contributions, it could be a big difference.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 11:05

So why did you say I was talking nonsense? I explicitly excluded partners from my comment. I said "unless you're a partner", which is true.

passport123 · 12/10/2022 11:06

"In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company."

please do name your company so people here know not to apply to it! I've never heard so much bull

Jemimapuddleduk · 12/10/2022 11:10

Because you said this which is factually incorrect

On the topic of benefits - one thing that's worth being aware of is that, unless you're a partner, the big4 tend to pay pretty much the bare minimum in employer pension contributions. Their contributions were easily the lowest of anywhere I've worked, by a long way.

Jemimapuddleduk · 12/10/2022 11:11

Partners don’t get pension contribution as they are self employed. Yes they get other benefits but not pension

housemaus · 12/10/2022 11:13

Bobshhh · 12/10/2022 09:51

A friend of mine is a manager at EY (£65k) being promoted to senior manager and I can safely say the hours she works are nowhere near reflected in her salary. I've had a couple of people suggest I move there and I have 0 interest.

Yeah, my ex worked there, it ended in a nervous breakdown (and several colleagues leaving with stress). He hated it. He worked for a different big 4 firm later and much preferred it, although the stress levels were still high - EY seemed to be especially awful.

Octomore · 12/10/2022 11:16

But I didn't actually say anything about what pension benefits partners may or may not get. I was talking about employees only. 🤷‍♀️

Octomore · 12/10/2022 11:17

I didn't find stress levels too high (although I tend to thrive on that stuff), but the hours were long and there was an expectation that work took precedence over the rest of your life.

bonzaitree · 12/10/2022 11:19

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

This attitude is toxic AF. "Money driven"!!! Yes love, that's why people work. To get money. Not for a free gym membership.

I wouldn't apply for any job where I didn't know the salary bracket.

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