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Does anybody work at EY?

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MrsKipling16 · 11/10/2022 19:05

I’ve seen a role on the careers page that I’m potentially interested in, however, there’s no salary listed.

I’ve called the helpline number to ask, and the response I got was “we don’t share the salary until you’ve successfully completed the assessment” - I explained to the recruitment advisor that I wouldn’t want to waste mine on their time by going through an assessment process without knowing what the range was given that it’s a senior role, and in my experience, different organisations use different job titles and have different structures therefore it’s hard to gauge how “senior” the role is and that what I was hoping for was an indication - e.g. “pays between x and y dependent on experience” type thing.

I could complete my candidate profile (which the website suggests will take approx 30 minutes) and hope that I could get the salary range at this stage of the process, but given today’s experience, I’m not sure if I’m right for EY/they’re right for me - I’m not unhappy in current role, was just idly perusing and thought the opportunity sounded interesting! Annual leave allowance and pension contributions were available for me to see, and are less that what I get now, hence being keen to understand the salary before taking further.

Happy to PM a link to the role if anyone might be willing/able to give an indication of pay range? TIA

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tickticksnooze · 11/10/2022 22:01

Mushroo · 11/10/2022 21:50

@MrsKipling16 i expect the salary will be £70k - £80k(ish) outside of London, with London being £85k - £100k.

That's nothing special. You'd have to be mad to put up with big4 conditions for that salary.

TrainedByCats · 11/10/2022 22:02

I have never worked for EY but did have to work closely with them for a while. They were the most unscrupulous unpleasant company to work with I’ve ever come across.

TooHotToRamble · 11/10/2022 22:02

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

That sounds very much like corporate bollocks for "we don't pay market rate". And let's justify that by gaslighting our staff. Nice.

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KurriKawari · 11/10/2022 21:56

I am seeing more and more job adverts that don't state salaries. And more recruiters asking for your salary before you can even progress.

I was given a good tip by a recruiter to make the conversation less personal by asking what the employer considered the market rate for the role to be. (Obviously try to do a bit of research first to find out what the rate for similar roles in similar companies elsewhere pay.) There's no need for your new employer to know your previous salary. They either think you can do the job, or they don't. And if they do, they should pay you the market rate.

azimuth299 · 11/10/2022 22:04

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven

😂People come to work to get paid, they wouldn't just volunteer to work at some random office job because they enjoy the work culture!

I would consider it a big red flag if a company won't disclose at least the salary range. It means that it's not enticing, because if it was enticing they would advertise it. I wouldn't apply for a job in those circumstances. You'll end up spending hours on preparation for three interviews only for them to disappoint you with a low offer.

bigblueyonder · 11/10/2022 22:05

Eloise38 · 11/10/2022 21:08

This is a genuine question, why does it disadvantage women when companies don't advertise their salaries?

Because they believe (usually correctly) that a woman will accept a much lower salary than a man for the exact same role. However this conflicts with the equal pay / equality act 2010. This is different from the gender pay gap...

If companies do not advertise salaries it is easier to get away with this.

LimpBiskit · 11/10/2022 22:06

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

I don't even apply for positions if there isn't a ballpark figure. I could be on 200k and apply for a job at half that but only find that out at the end of the process? How totally bizarre.

deeperthanallroses · 11/10/2022 22:11

Mushroo · 11/10/2022 21:50

@MrsKipling16 i expect the salary will be £70k - £80k(ish) outside of London, with London being £85k - £100k.

I think (from a long period in big 4) that this is probably spot on.

poppetandmog · 11/10/2022 22:11

I'm not at EY but work for a competitor and the salary range for our SMs is roughly £60-70k.

toomanyflapjacks · 11/10/2022 22:12

"Money driven" 😂 Imagine wanting to know what you might be earning!

Naginia · 11/10/2022 22:12

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

In that case, I'm not showing you my cv until you offer me a role.

stevalnamechanger · 11/10/2022 22:14

Contact a recruiter for there on LI

I work in HR at a large org and we share it verbally at first stage with candidates but not published online

stevalnamechanger · 11/10/2022 22:15

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

Sorry but this is total nonsense 😂

luckyrabbits · 11/10/2022 22:16

Glass door looks about right. They are a great company to work for.

RJnomore1 · 11/10/2022 22:25

Some of the nonsense on this thread makes me really grateful to be in the public sector with clearly published salaries 😂 oh discounted gym membership too, not free mind you

Starseeking · 11/10/2022 22:26

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

This is silly. I work at a very senior level, and wouldn't apply for a role which didn't advertise salary, or the recruiter refused to share salary details at an early stage in the process.

Where new opportunities include Director in the title (my level) and have a salary stipulated, this can be anywhere between £60k-£200k. However, I wouldn't entertain interviewing for anything less than a certain amount because I need to pay my bills, plus have a bit extra, not because I'm hugely money oriented.

PatientlyWaiting21 · 11/10/2022 22:26

@TreeLine6 what world do you live on? I work on recruitment, a heavily researched one and news flash candidates mostly don’t give a shit about gym memberships, medical insurance or what muffin they get on a Friday. You know what they do care about? Getting a job that pays the bills! People don’t happily accept a lower salary, they accept any salary because they have shit to pay for!!

to the OP, this job application process drives us all insane, and then they call us Wondering why there is a lack of candidates.

my personal favourite line by employers and recruiters is “we will offer the right salary to the right candidate” which is complete and utter bullshit. PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES A DECENT WAGE!!

kingtamponthefurred · 11/10/2022 22:31

TreeLine6 · 11/10/2022 19:33

I don’t work at EY but I am a senior manager and company director. Our policy is not to provide salary details until a candidate is offered a role.

My experience is that candidates who are desperate to know salary details are very money-driven whereas we like our applicants to be attracted by our company culture and the role itself. In our experience, people are often prepared to overlook a lower salary once they get to know a company.

I would also say that salary is only one part of the picture. We offer for example free gym membership, private medical insurance and discounted childcare, which can really add up.

You are talking bollocks mate.

Bullship · 11/10/2022 22:35

95k sounds right for a senior manager

Bullship · 11/10/2022 22:36

for London anyway

Octomore · 11/10/2022 22:37

MrsKipling16 · 11/10/2022 21:22

Chewbecca my Google search wasn’t that helpful. Here’s an example of what I found on Glassdoor - the headline figure of £95k is the same as what you found, however, from reading the commentary and studying the visual, the “most likely range” is indicated at £49k, with “possible range” stretching all the way to £858k (which is definitely not where I’d pitch the value of my skills and experience!) hence hoping somebody can provide some accurate insight.

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Yeah, the numbers quoted by that PP were definitely on the high side for a big4 Senior Manager role.

Where you are in the country will make a big difference too.

Octomore · 11/10/2022 22:38

Bullship · 11/10/2022 22:36

for London anyway

Interesting. Big difference to the Yorkshire salaries.

tentinginmarch · 11/10/2022 22:41

Senior manager big 4- bands start at £60k in the north, top of the london band £110k - so depends on location. Also depends on specialism - pensions actuaries or deals specialists are higher than say audit senior managers.
PM me if you want to discuss.
Package is more than just cash. Benefits are fab.

Octomore · 11/10/2022 22:44

tentinginmarch · 11/10/2022 22:41

Senior manager big 4- bands start at £60k in the north, top of the london band £110k - so depends on location. Also depends on specialism - pensions actuaries or deals specialists are higher than say audit senior managers.
PM me if you want to discuss.
Package is more than just cash. Benefits are fab.

This aligns with my experience in northern big4 (not EY, but one of the others)

Glitteratitar · 11/10/2022 22:45

It’s such a pain when adverts / recruiters don’t talk about salary. It is important. It does matter. If I’m looking for a new role, I expect it to be the same or more than my current salary and knowing that information in advance would help me decide whether I want to apply.

Many years ago I interviewed for a paralegal role. I had two interviews which all went well. My third interview was with the head of the team and we discussed salary. I told him my expectations, which was that I expect it to at least match my current salary, and he refused, claiming that he couldn’t believe I was being paid so much. I was on £42k, and he wanted to pay me £24k, at a push. The office was an hour’s drive away and I took 3 half days of annual leave for the interviews. Complete waste of my time and it cost me, considering I used 1.5 of leave for the interviews. If they had set out the salary at the very start, I wouldn’t have even bothered applying.

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