Can we all start saying “Queen Camilla” now and not “Queen Consort” every time.

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The BBC particularly are driving me loopy with it.

It isn’t the traditional way to refer to a consort. It was emphasised as part of the “make Camilla acceptable” campaign, but that’s over now.

Women mocking another woman's looks? Classy.

Whichever PP said “sop to the Diana crazies” might have had a point.

Exactly. Neither prince had that entitlement!

She's not controversial. No saint. That's all.

If Camilla should be called Queen, why has the Duke of Edinburg never been called King? 😵‍💫😵‍💫

Sexism. Women are naturally lower, a king is higher than a queen, so the husband can't take the higher role when his wife is the queen regnant.

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I will never call her queen and that's my choice, as far as I know we still live in a democracy

Nothing cute about being a patronising arse

She is a Queen. Consort is her role.
All previous Queens have been known as the Queen, or Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth, Queen Alexandra, for example.
As pp have said, it's just not using "the Queen" so soon after QE2.

Sure Camilla or Queen Consort is fine - she isn't actually a Queen.

That's the Dutch royal family. Princess Beatrix was Queen Beatrix until she abdicated in 2013. Her son is now the King.

I like this approach.

From now on, I'm going to refuse to acknowledge that Liz Truss is prime minister, that I weigh nearly 12 stone and that it's raining.

Why was Elizabeth bowes Lyon the queen mother and not the dowager queen then?

So why didn't Prince Phillip become King Phillip when Elizabeth became Queen?
Just curious

Because sexism. There's only one type of King, but two types of Queen - Regnant (the monarch a la Elizabeth II) and Consort (the spouse a la Camilla, Elizabeth the Queen mother, Kate some day).

He refused the title, I believe.

When a female in the royal bloodline marries, her husband is not eligible to take the male form of his wife’s title, as Marlene Koenig, a royal historian and writer of the Royal Musings blog, told Town and Country. That’s why Princess Eugenie’s husband, Jack Brooksbank, remained “Mr. Jack Brooksbank” when they got married in October 2018.

From the Reader's Digest website.

Philip renounced his claim to other thrones in order to marry Elizabeth and was only made prince in 1957.

I seem to remember that she chose “Queen Mother” over the more usual “dowager” just because she preferred it. I think she was formally known as “Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother”. Otherwise it would have been “Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Dowager”. Maybe she’d have been less bothered if they didn’t have to specify it every time to differentiate her from her daughter?

There was also another queen dowager, Queen Mary. So Elizabeth needed a title that would be different. In the royal household she was referred to simply as Queen Elizabeth and her daughter as the Queen.

Call her Cami.

She's not and should never be a queen. Phillip was never a king!

If the late Queen had only had her DD, Anne, she would be Queen Anne immediately just like Charles was immediately King. I don't think it needs time, they are the King and Queen.

Except she is.

Queen Elizabeth specifically requested that Camilla should take the title of Queen Consort in the event of her death.

And Philip refused the title of King!!!

I thought Camilla is Queen consort not queen camilla because she isn't the mother of the future king (william).
Catherine will be Queen (if she and William dont split) because she is the mother of the future king (george)