So the PM has repeatedly lied/made the same mistake all day?

[Explaintome]

She's done loads of radio today amd it seems she said the se thing in all of them.

“We have taken action by the government stepping in, making sure that nobody is paying fuel bills of more than £2,500.”

This is blatantly wrong. Households who use the average amount of energy will pay £2500. Lots of people will pay more.

Either she deliberately lied to mislead or she doesn't understand her own policy.

Two things:

• she's done this mulitple times today (and yesterday?) Why didn't someone in her team correct her after the first time?

• why haven't the radio presenters been challenging her? Or did they and what was her response?

Only if people have wilfully ignored a subject that has had significant media coverage throughout the year and are also unaware that they are more likely to put the heating on in winter

It was £1971 in April 22 but what did that actually mean?

It was always going to change in Oct 22 and people would use more in the winter months. And then change again in April 23.

She certainly didn't use terms such as "typical" or "average" on her radio Leeds interview...I'm not going to type out verbatim in full what she said there, I wore my figures out doing it on another thread, but she clearly used the bare bones, no caveats, no qualifications figure of "the maximum will be £2500" in that interview and wasn't challenged on it.

If you want to hear it is contained in response to a listeners comment, just after 6:45 on this recording:

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0d3d2gm

Do you think that there will be letters going into the 1922 committee soon?

Well I've just emailed my local MP requesting that she does just that. Maybe if more people did the same we might get somewhere.

It's painful to watch/listen - it would be funny if it wasn't fucking us all over

Im quite educated and only realised what it meant when Martin Lewis spelled it out today. Really getting a gre

Another liar, taking us all for stupid.

She’s plain incompetent and must be seriously stupid if she thinks she’s convincing anyone with the blurb she came out with on radio this morning. She has only made herself look more incompetent and stupid today wtafucking nonsense she is going to say at conference I can’t wait to hear.
I actually think this might all be a very elaborate practical joke being played on the entire uk population- and someone’s going to jump out at conference and say “we were only joking!!” it’s the only reasonable explanation.

I agree that what she said wasn't right, and that media reporting on this (and the energy cap generally) is irritatingly vague. But how can anyone possibly have thought that what the government had done was say "use as much energy as you like, you'll only pay £2,500 for it"??

I don't know if any one has actually thought that, but it's not unreasonable to think that the PM might mean what she said surely? I know we've got used to thinking they all lie constantly, but how can it be OK that people should just expect that what the PM says, repeatedly, is nonsense?

She's not even sure about that 😆

wtafucking nonsense she is going to say at conference I can’t wait to hear Me too, I am looking forward to watching her speech.

My husband and my friend both thought that there was a £2500 cap - they admittedly hadn’t thought about it very hard but neither of them are stupid.

I think people assume that a statement as clear as that has to be true. They know there's some sort of support for energy bills happening.

I will be honest, I do finally understand a lot more about how energy bills work, but only because of this story this year. I've done a direct debit for 20 years, the only number I think about it is whether I'm in credit or not. I'm not proud of it.

I don't know if any one has actually thought that, but it's not unreasonable to think that the PM might mean what she said surely? I know we've got used to thinking they all lie constantly, but how can it be OK that people should just expect that what the PM says, repeatedly, is nonsense?

Oh yes I agree completely. I just don't know who she thinks she fooling if it is deliberate.
I also don't know why none of the interviewers jumped in immediately with "that isn't correct, is it." and made her explain why she was saying it. She said it in, what, 7/8 interviews? And the later ones had clearly been listening to the earlier ones as at least one of them referenced it. So they'll have known exactly what she was going to be saying.

No of course its not, its also extremely damaging when people take her at her word and use all the heating they want, before finding themselves '000s in debt "because the PM told me i could"

Remember, she also said British citizens should go to Ukraine to fight as mercenaries, she also told the Russians that Rostov was in Ukraine and was a disputed territory... all this as Foreign Secretary.

& some posters don't like her being called thick.

Have people never heard the joke 'how can you tell that a politician is lying'? Their lips are moving.

Genuinely baffled by all this. People take what politicians say at face value as A: true and B - applicable to all/their own personal situation. Seriously?

Yes, of course it's supposed to be a "joke". Until recently, I think we've expected them to twist the truth, manipulate stats to say what they want them to say, tell half the story, but a black and white statement that is just a straight forward lie was rare?

Quite a few on here have thought that it was a cap like all you can use, also some on MSE forums. Saying it was an energy cap in the first place and expressing it as a monetary amount hasn't helped, it always should have been made clearer what it means but this goes back years

You know when you see a billboard with a picture of a high spec VW Golf and it says 'VW Golf - only £199 a month' in massive letters and then From in tiny letters just before it and a great footnote that says '£199 for base model, this is a picture of the top model which costs £299 a month, but only if you put down a £10k deposit, pay £299 for 3 years and then pay another £10k after three years or give the car back. All prices quoted are excluding VAT. Oh, and that price is only if you drive 5000 miles a year, if you drive further it costs more.

When someone completely unconnected to an energy supply company says 'price cap is £2500' then this is exactly like the above. The only way to find out how much it will cost you in your circumstances is to look at your energy contract.

another crap leader and this one’s the worst yet but this is getting into football manger territory now - the board of the team don’t like it, change the manager. Surely we aren’t going to have another leadership election? If her party are so horrified (as they should be) can’t they use the normal mechanisms to change them?

What does she mean?

And I agree about the price cap. I had to have a convo with DH about it - “surely what they mean is…” when it first came out, just to be clear in my head what it actually was

The markets etc didn’t crash when she announced this measure, they collapsed when they announced they were making rich people even richer. She doesn’t seem to grasp that.

Same. I often wonder if the people on here who seem to think it's been blown out of proportion, and that they personally will be fine, think similarly.