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Thread 15. Big Dog has been rehomed but we still need a poop scooper.

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L1ttledrummergirl · 26/09/2022 17:03

New thread.
Link to old:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4624784-big-dog-going-going-not-quite-gone-thread-14?page=10&reply=120289662

Hopefully I've done this so it works.

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Notonthestairs · 30/09/2022 20:43

Link to full article.

https://twitter.com/gerieelscott/status/1575761743611133952?s=46&t=9hWWDadbVuBfQyRKx16m8A

verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 20:55

Charles Walker is basically saying the Conservatives are going to lose the next election, it's just a case of how badly, and as a patriots they need to think about the legacy they hand over to Labour.

Notonthestairs · 30/09/2022 20:56

Yes I read Charles Walkers comments - credit to him, country before party.

the80sweregreat · 30/09/2022 20:58

The market is over reacting. Ok. I bet many of those brokers and bankers are a lot more experienced than Ms Truss and co!
I know who I trust more

Notonthestairs · 30/09/2022 20:59

Worth pointing it that Walker is withdrawing from politics at the next election. He can say what he wants!
I think he's also on the Johnson Standards Committee investigation.

verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 21:01

"Ignore the commentariat, and just meekly pay your tripled mortgage payment and your tripled energy bills and ignore the dropping value of your property, pensions and investments"

Jake Berry is a CF.

the80sweregreat · 30/09/2022 21:05

Yep, pay up and shut up :(
It's immoral and Ms truss is evil . I honestly believe this.

the80sweregreat · 30/09/2022 21:08

Have I got news for you have started with showing Rishi sunak telling us what what happen and what will happen and hence it's come to pass !
Yet he'll sit on the back bench and let it carry on along with the rest of the spivs in charge

Lonelycrab · 30/09/2022 21:11

Apparently the market's overreacted

65 billion quid thrown into the pot to stop meltdown and the market’s were just fine, tikkety boo…they just got a bit confused at our brilliance, understandable that, obvs Confused

verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 23:28

the80sweregreat · 30/09/2022 21:08

Have I got news for you have started with showing Rishi sunak telling us what what happen and what will happen and hence it's come to pass !
Yet he'll sit on the back bench and let it carry on along with the rest of the spivs in charge

Most Conservative MPs will. It's about time some of them put the people of this country before their party loyalty.

DowningStreetParty · 01/10/2022 08:50

Liz Truss admits disruption after tax cut pledges
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63098101

… its a lot more than ‘disruption’. It’s really horrifying the complacency and self righteousness of Liz Truss. She seems to think her ‘iron grip’ on the economy is some kind of a virtue on itself….. no matter whether her iron grip is throttling it to death or not. She seems actually deluded.

Blossomtoes · 01/10/2022 08:57

She IS deluded and dangerous. I’m hoping enough Tory MPs agree so her tenure in Downing Street is the shortest in history.

Cornettoninja · 01/10/2022 09:35

@DowningStreetParty you’re right, that’s her MO. She play acts at whatever she thinks is a successful projection of herself and thinks that’s the same thing as actually being competent.

She’s a vapid chameleon.

itsgettingweird · 01/10/2022 09:36

Blossomtoes · 01/10/2022 08:57

She IS deluded and dangerous. I’m hoping enough Tory MPs agree so her tenure in Downing Street is the shortest in history.

Agree.

And now they think a review of public spending to help balance the books and a paper writing this is going to calm the public.

They simply cannot see that paying 20b a year in interest on 45b spending and having a 65b bailout by the BOE is what the country has an issue with - as they are reducing taxes and benefitting their richest the most.

We wouldn't need to cut public services if we weren't paying so much in interest to borrow money we could be bringing in through taxes.

the80sweregreat · 01/10/2022 10:26

The news was grim today on sky regarding benefits and pensions.
That'll be the next thing to come in , austerity measures. All part of the plan.
Those in the know, will the Conservative party conference be on the tele this weekend ?

AchillesLastStand · 01/10/2022 10:37

Thanks for the welcome @Roussette and @Notonthestairs. I’ve been avoiding this forum for a couple of days because of a dip in my mental health. Feeling better today thankfully. Made the mistake of dipping into the other thread. Members there comparing this crisis to the toilet roll panic of 2020. And lots of useful advice to avoid the news, like that will stop things from happening. They really don’t have a clue.

Saw the front page of the Mail, after their win your energy bill front page the other month, they now have an inviting offer to for a reader to win their mortgage for a year and beat the interest rates. Really? Don’t they think their readers will question why we’re in such a deep mess that we’d need to win our energy bill and mortgage payments. What happens to all their readers who can’t afford these things? Don’t their readers ever question that?

Well at least Labour are romping home in polls (full disclosure, Labour Party member).

the80sweregreat · 01/10/2022 10:50

I've been on other threads too where people go on about having it bad years ago etc.
It really doesn't help matters now and I'm old myself
The tv presenter on sky sounded down beat today about the austerity measures coming in ; this is definitely where we are headed now. The tax cuts and borrowing will have to be paid back somehow. Yet they will say it's just paying back the energy bill borrowing and air brush the ones for the rich earners. All part of the plan to blame Putin and the pandemic too.
People will start saying this to justify benefit cutting austerity measures

Notonthestairs · 01/10/2022 10:58

I think there is a value in taking a break from the news intermittently.

It just needs to be balanced with remaining informed.

Politics impacts every area of our lives, it's impossible to hide from it.

We really are at a critical juncture. I don't have a sense of how this will play out. The worst case scenario is that Truss is left to introduce Austerity Mark 2 and we all have to watch as services and infrastructure are decimated and the much trumpeted growth fails to materialise because who would trust the Government right now?
The alternative is further political disruption - a coup within the party followed by an election- with all the chaos & costs that brings albeit hopefully a short term impact.

I blame Johnson (again!) He made a choice to push out the centrists and One Nation Tories and as good as handed the keys to Truss & gang.

the80sweregreat · 01/10/2022 11:08

Will the electorate tolerate austerity 2 when we've been here before? Blaming the war and covid might work on those who take zero interest or just like the conservative values or whatever , but most know that it isn't really about this at all and all just part of the big plan?
The old red wall lent them their vote hoping things will get better for them, not worse.
I know what's going to happen, they will only concentrate on the borrowing for the energy and covid and push it through as needing to pay this back by cutting it all to the bone and not mention the latest borrowing for the rich , which needs to plug the tax deficits to give to the higher earners.
It's so transparent , but people will fall for it
I hope that social media don't let it go

jgw1 · 01/10/2022 11:17

the80sweregreat · 01/10/2022 11:08

Will the electorate tolerate austerity 2 when we've been here before? Blaming the war and covid might work on those who take zero interest or just like the conservative values or whatever , but most know that it isn't really about this at all and all just part of the big plan?
The old red wall lent them their vote hoping things will get better for them, not worse.
I know what's going to happen, they will only concentrate on the borrowing for the energy and covid and push it through as needing to pay this back by cutting it all to the bone and not mention the latest borrowing for the rich , which needs to plug the tax deficits to give to the higher earners.
It's so transparent , but people will fall for it
I hope that social media don't let it go

It would need an awful lot of people to change their minds, for the Conservatives to remain in government after the next election.

Take a look at.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

Note the numbers are based on Labour having a 15% lead in opinion polls, if the more recent 20%+ polls stick, then...

the80sweregreat · 01/10/2022 11:28

Lots of people will vote conservative though
After all, 160,000 plus voted already in the summer and many more are conservatives and not party members. It's not going to be a walk in the park. Even with austerity 2 now in the public domain.
There is still a long way to go I think , but then I've seen Labour lose too many elections ( historically) in the past with competent leaders and we still have two years of the conservatives.
Never count your chickens , people are easily fooled! Or it doesn't affect them. Some of The city banker types won't vote Labour after being given a huge money boost like this.

The LP still have to win over the electorate big time and they are not on the unions side either.
I Don't want to sound negative.

borntobequiet · 01/10/2022 12:26

In 1997 some people still thought the Conservatives might win. I remember a friend telling me then that too many people didn’t trust Labour on the economy.
But it didn’t feel that way out and about. And the atmosphere now feels far more emphatic and urgent even than it did then, quite apart from the fact that the Conservative leadership then wasn’t certifiable.

itsgettingweird · 01/10/2022 13:19

the80sweregreat · 01/10/2022 10:50

I've been on other threads too where people go on about having it bad years ago etc.
It really doesn't help matters now and I'm old myself
The tv presenter on sky sounded down beat today about the austerity measures coming in ; this is definitely where we are headed now. The tax cuts and borrowing will have to be paid back somehow. Yet they will say it's just paying back the energy bill borrowing and air brush the ones for the rich earners. All part of the plan to blame Putin and the pandemic too.
People will start saying this to justify benefit cutting austerity measures

I know.

We had it during covid as well.

Well we survived a war.

We did. But that doesn't make surviving a war or pandemic or recession something to aim for.

Some Brit's are happy to be joining a race to the bottom.

tobee · 01/10/2022 14:21

We didn't start the war. Or covid.

This is a deliberate act of (self) harm to this country.

A vicious continuation of the ideology of Brexit.

tobee · 01/10/2022 14:37

Look this a fantasy but imagine if Truss start her keynote speech at conference and there was a mass walkout