Thread 15. Big Dog has been rehomed but we still need a poop scooper.

[L1ttledrummergirl]

New thread.
Link to old:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4624784-big-dog-going-going-not-quite-gone-thread-14?page=10&reply=120289662

Hopefully I've done this so it works.

Shall we start taking bets on a GE happening?

I still stick with my original prediction:

GE this winter or early spring

We're lucky to have a system where this can be done.

Otherwise I think we'd be gearing the same way we've seen other countries go recently financially with mass riots in the street.

I knew he had a flawed character. But I felt that way about all the candidates last GE tbh.

I wanted the brexit shitshow done and we'd left (I was a remainer) and I was a fan of levelling up.

I wish the GE hadn't happened at a time when my life was spiralling out of control and I'd had more time to research what I was doing.

I would have spoilt my paper and not voted for anyone tbh if I'd have realised just how bad it would be.

But the good thing from that is I've got time now to look closer at the leaders and I'm impressed with Starmer and will vote him next GE if he's leader of Labour Party.

I made a mistake but at the time I genuinely felt it was the right thing to do. Guess we all live and learn.

@itsgettingweird

Well done you for recognising this and explaining so well.

Indeed

I want a General Election.

The Conservative Party members pick shit Prime Ministers.

If we’re being accountable then I voted Tory too. Not without reservations but I really thought Johnson was just a figurehead chump at the front of some broadly competent small-c conservative policies. I certainly didn’t want or expect this shower of avaricious shitehawks speeding along in his wake.
I’m uneasy about Labour on several fronts that I won’t derail this thread by describing in detail (gender identity, influence of Momentum for instance) but I’ll settle for being able to see what’s coming round the corner for a few years even if it’s not what I would want entirely.

I don't want to fall out with anyone here, but I simply can't not say this. If you voted Tory in 2019 you didn't care about the shit that the Tories had already piled on the poor, the vulnerable and the disabled.

The only thing that makes me feel - slightly - better atm is that those who voted for this shit show will suffer along with the rest of us.

Edifying?

No. But honest.

You don't get to vote for venal self serving bastards like this then bleat about them acting like, guess what? Yep! Venal Self serving Bastards!

💯

I don’t think it’s particularly helpful to hold on to blame. This lot have surpassed anything even the most experienced political commentator could have predicted, I’m actually quite nostalgic for the old Tory brand that BJ chased out of his party, probably wouldn’t have voted for them though!

I’ll take that as a fair comment from your pov. I don’t accept it as a true reflection of me, but I guess you don’t know ‘me’ and are entitled to draw your own conclusions.
My hope now is that there are enough of us who are thoroughly sickened by the Cabinet playing at politics to line their own pockets to make a significant change at the next GE.

This really isn’t helping. Over the course of 14 threads a small community has formed here. Please can we not start turning on one another? It’s pointless castigating @itsgettingweird for the way she voted three years ago, it’s not as if she held the casting vote in 2019.

You don't get to vote for venal self serving bastards like this then bleat about them acting like, guess what? Yep! Venal Self serving Bastards!
Well, I do if I’m prepared to contribute changing that when I can 🤷‍♀️

You’re right, @Blossomtoes . I won’t respond or try to justify my past voting any further. It’s pointless. Looking forward is the way to go now.

Fair enough. But it just seems that the Tories were OK to vote for when "other" people's lives were being trashed by their cruel policies. Now we are all facing an absolute shit storm, tunes are changing. But I have said my piece and will shut up now. I want all of us out of this nightmare as soon as possible and the only way to do that is overcome past differences and unite. It does leave a bitter taste though, I'll not lie about that.

I'm not turning on anyone.

I just won't pretend that these people aren't part of the problem.

I also feel rather baffled when people say that "how could we have known!??"

What????

Johnson et Al made no secret of their views and plans. Ditto truss and kamikwasi.

Nope.

You knew.

Time to pay the price 🤷‍♀️

Exc: Cabinet to be asked to find 'efficiency savings' in Whitehall despite Truss promising no cuts

twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1575160114138402817?t=vnyQmSFnI6ec6plA5346NQ&s=19

Truss?

Promise????

Hahaha Hahaha

It’s understandable @ClaudineClare. My df has been utterly shafted by this lot for over a decade now, it’s a wonder he’s survived tbh, and that’s not hyperbole even before covid.

I can’t say I’m not prone to indulging in a little schaudenfraude, but ultimately people experiencing this for themselves and changing their minds is a good thing.

But I did.

I was also someone who felt everyone had a responsibility to vote.

Also,someone who has spent many years living abroad when Johnson was in media etc and so didn't see any of that.

I knew (obviously) what the Tory's had done previously and was against Brexit. But Johnson appeared to be very centric and I was for levelling up.

I really really wish I hadn't voted for anyone now (not that I think my 1 vote would have made any difference!)

What I've learned from this is when you are dealing with extremely difficult life situations it isn't the time to make huge choices and decisions.

I honestly wish I hadn't voted at all. But I can't undo that.

And I'm surprised after I've been on here since thread 6 ish and been honest about it from the start - it's thread 15 that suddenly people decide to put the boot in.

And I have a disabled son. That was always something on the back of my mind. No party has ever fitted everything I believe in. I'm not sure it ever will.

But I'm 100% sure of Starmer and the current Labour Party and that's where I've decided my vote will go - hopefully very soon

I posted a few days ago to say that the new Government's central economics/business committee has gone from 20 MP's plus advisers to just 6 people (presumably JRM, Coffrey, Kwarteng, Matthew Sinclair fresh from the IEA etc). Cabinet is almost uniformly ERG members.
We are being run by a small cabal.

Most of these people have been in Govenment or on the sidelines for a very long time. They have been planning this for years. Theresa May didn't give them quite enough power. Johnson, I suspect, was unreliable & uncommitted and cocked up one too many times for everyone else.

Now they have one of their own in and I doubt they will let go. They will press on with a focus on spending. Inflation means that that budgets are not going to stretch. There will be further cuts to services.

Unless Tory MPs vote against the PM we are stuffed.

I am not going to 'vilify' anyone for their vote, just don't tell me you had no choice.