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Prince Andrew heckled as they escort HM coffin.

625 replies

JustTheOneSwan · 12/09/2022 17:13

It was inevitable but in this I feel very sorry for his siblings and daughters.

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DeLaLune2022 · 12/09/2022 19:33

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 12/09/2022 19:29

It made me shudder. It's exactly the same kind of 'plausible deniability' so frequently used by predatory males, almost as if they have the same MO.

And whilst it's a big reach from footage of a few seconds to deduce that he's interacting with his daughter inappropriately, in view of his recent track record you have to think he'd be more careful about optics. This sort of thing looks very bad.

That‘s exactly it. He knew there were cameras and he just acted as if this was completely normal. And no I am not a parent but I am a daughter and my dad was by no means perfect but he would have never touched me like this!

35965a · 12/09/2022 19:33

The video is disturbing

OneFrenchEgg · 12/09/2022 19:33

It's really unfortunate that there is nothing concrete so he gets a pass from lots of people - no interview under caution, no civil case outcome, no court case, no other trials of Epstein's customers who may have name dropped him, no other victims naming him, which leaves it open for people to say Giuffre was just cashing in.

It infuriates me that he can get away with his behaviour as just foolish or misguided (or 'honourable' for wanting to say goodbye 😲).

As for heckling - that's the risk you get from going on public display . I didn't see any comeback on the people singing the witch is dead for Thatcher?

How very serf like to drown him out with the chanting.

vera99 · 12/09/2022 19:34

North Korea has 99.99% turnout and 100% voted for the ruling party. However, the Supreme Leader did not stand so technically he has no mandate.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_North_Korean_parliamentary_election

35965a · 12/09/2022 19:34

35965a · 12/09/2022 19:33

The video is disturbing

of Andrew and Eugenie I mean

Vanderpump · 12/09/2022 19:34

It does not make him look like a martyr, if anyone thinks that then they really have issues

JammyThing · 12/09/2022 19:34

I winced a bit at the bloke shouting at the procession but then again what the fuck did they expect? What he said was pretty tame - could have been much worse! (And still accurate.) I'm amazed there hasn't been more of it tbh and I assume the only reason there hasn't been is respect for the Queen and other mourners. Not because people think the Duke of York is lovely.

Wrong call from the RF to allow Randy Andy to participate as fully as he has, I think. I hope the new King and the new Prince of Wales wise up immediately after the funeral and give Andrew the Duke of Windsor treatment. Just banish the sleazy fucker to somewhere nobody has to look at him.

The footage with Eugenie was beyond disturbing and I don't understand how anyone can possibly watch it and think it's fine. And as a previous poster said, at the very least it's caused a whole lot of commentary that the RF won't want. Especially not right now. Andrew is poison.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 12/09/2022 19:36

Blossomtoes · 12/09/2022 19:31

He’s not a paedophile. All heckling on such an inappropriate occasion achieves is to make him look like a martyr. It was completely counterproductive and stupid.

Not at all. The heckler has elicited substantial public support, as well as opposition, and people are talking about not only how badly the RF have handled this but about the fact that the queen supported Andrew. Even amongst people who disagree with the heckle, the commonest view appears to be that what he said was true but the occasion was inappropriate, which is hardly a positive for either Andrew or the wider family.

Comedycook · 12/09/2022 19:37

How very serf like to drown him out with the chanting

Agree. I found that pathetic forelock tugging

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 12/09/2022 19:39

Comedycook · 12/09/2022 19:37

How very serf like to drown him out with the chanting

Agree. I found that pathetic forelock tugging

Mmm, some people probably would be temperamentally and culturally more suited to the feudal system.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 12/09/2022 19:39

Vanderpump · 12/09/2022 19:34

It does not make him look like a martyr, if anyone thinks that then they really have issues

If anything it was the heckler looks like a martyr.

MSM are now casting a critical eye over the heavy-handed police treatment of the protestors. There are certain freedoms and liberties at stake of late in this country. This one could run and run. And I hope it does.

Spck · 12/09/2022 19:39

The heckling has worked hugely well - it’s all over social media at the moment.

MadeWithCare · 12/09/2022 19:40

I imagine it will happen more than once if he's allowed to parade through London. I wonder how they plan to manage that?

autyspauty · 12/09/2022 19:41

Sharrowgirl · 12/09/2022 18:14

whilst all the actions including the payoff point to his guilt

You can’t take the fact that he settled as proof of his guilt. Everyone does but they really shouldn’t as it tells you nothing. You might say why did he settle if he was innocent but you could equally say why did she accept the settlement if he was guilty? So the settlement doesn’t indicate guilt or innocence.

Could you refuse the money?
I couldn't. it would be life changing and I've already been raped. why not get something out of it?
he is a prince and can afford to pay a team of lawyers. She is a normal person and if she refused the money he may have got off Scott free anyway thanks to that money.

Bpdqueen · 12/09/2022 19:41

There's a time and a place and this isn't it

Rollingwiththehomies · 12/09/2022 19:41

Igotjelly · 12/09/2022 17:16

I feel sorry for his daughter and the rest of his family but certainly not for him. He’s an odious creature who should crawl back into whatever hole he came from.

This.

Snazzysausage · 12/09/2022 19:41

I did wonder if the sick old man heckle was because of the video of him and Eugenie. When the footage is viewed from the side angle camera it's certainly disturbing.

lemmein · 12/09/2022 19:42

As an aside, we are always saying that the only way to fight VAWG is if men step up too and condemn shit behaviour. This young lad did exactly that - he should be applauded!

Blossomtoes · 12/09/2022 19:42

MadeWithCare · 12/09/2022 19:40

I imagine it will happen more than once if he's allowed to parade through London. I wonder how they plan to manage that?

If they have any sense they’ll keep him out of sight until Monday and not allow him to walk behind the coffin.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/09/2022 19:42

I really hope that he doesn't mistake politeness and respect for the Queen as acceptance for his behaviour

Considering this is the individual who thought the Maitlis interview went well, I believe he very easily might
To appreciate what the attitude really was would require insight, and he doesn't appear to have any

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 12/09/2022 19:42

MadeWithCare · 12/09/2022 19:40

I imagine it will happen more than once if he's allowed to parade through London. I wonder how they plan to manage that?

I wonder if he might have a convenient illness for the next few days The last two days really have gone appallingly badly from a Prince Andrew perspective.

Otoh there've been rumours that Charles has been planning to properly sideline him as soon as mummy isn't there to protect him, so perhaps this is an opportunity for him to be given enough rope to hang himself.

Brokendaughter · 12/09/2022 19:43

When my dad died recently, I grieved (& still do).
I didn't need to dress up & parade through the streets to grieve, I do it late at night when my child is asleep in order to spare him the distress of seeing his mother fall apart.
My dad wasn't buried in the country I live in, so I wasn't able to be there.
That does not lessen the amount of grief I feel.

I don't care who his mother was, he has no place in public life at any time.

By turning up at a public event when he really makes me think we should bring back shunning, he opened himself up to hearing what the majority of the world think about him.

He is a dirty old man.

The Royal family are educated on how to stand, sit, kneel, get in & out of cars, crouch down & get up etc.. from the time they are small.
I don't believe his hand 'accidentally' slipped down to his daughters backside when he was looking at those flowers either.

If he had any consideration or respect for his mother, or the monarchy, he would have stayed at home out of the public eye so that those who wanted to could pay their respects without him.

He wants to be part of the pomp & ceremony, he wants to be special.
It was incredibly disrespectful of him to turn up & take attention away from an occasion he has no place in.

It also shows the Royal family have nothing but contempt for the population that they let him take part at all.
Who else would parade a pervert through the streets, making a mockery of what should be a solemn occasion?

Novella4 · 12/09/2022 19:43

lemmein · 12/09/2022 19:42

As an aside, we are always saying that the only way to fight VAWG is if men step up too and condemn shit behaviour. This young lad did exactly that - he should be applauded!

He should . And he is .

DeLaLune2022 · 12/09/2022 19:44

and as we are on a parenting forum I find it very encouraging that this was a very young guy who had the courage to voice his opinion. It might not have been the best occassion (even though it wasn’t the actual funeral) but then when would be?

Vanderpump · 12/09/2022 19:45

Brokendaughter · 12/09/2022 19:43

When my dad died recently, I grieved (& still do).
I didn't need to dress up & parade through the streets to grieve, I do it late at night when my child is asleep in order to spare him the distress of seeing his mother fall apart.
My dad wasn't buried in the country I live in, so I wasn't able to be there.
That does not lessen the amount of grief I feel.

I don't care who his mother was, he has no place in public life at any time.

By turning up at a public event when he really makes me think we should bring back shunning, he opened himself up to hearing what the majority of the world think about him.

He is a dirty old man.

The Royal family are educated on how to stand, sit, kneel, get in & out of cars, crouch down & get up etc.. from the time they are small.
I don't believe his hand 'accidentally' slipped down to his daughters backside when he was looking at those flowers either.

If he had any consideration or respect for his mother, or the monarchy, he would have stayed at home out of the public eye so that those who wanted to could pay their respects without him.

He wants to be part of the pomp & ceremony, he wants to be special.
It was incredibly disrespectful of him to turn up & take attention away from an occasion he has no place in.

It also shows the Royal family have nothing but contempt for the population that they let him take part at all.
Who else would parade a pervert through the streets, making a mockery of what should be a solemn occasion?

I'm so sorry for your loss