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BBC 1 tribute is rather odd

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meateatingveggie · 09/09/2022 21:32

I mean obviously it's pre recorded but how did they get them to speak of her in the past tense?

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pawkins · 09/09/2022 23:33

SallyWD · 09/09/2022 22:47

They did exactly the same for Prince Philip. A tribute programme prerecorded before his death.

I understand why they pre record them while also finding it strange that it’s scheduled into a diary.

For instance William’s diary being like this
8.30am Drop children to school.
9.30am Take conference call.
10.30am Change into black suit and record my father’s obituary.
2pm Lunch with the Middleton’s.

Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:33

MilliwaysUniverse · 09/09/2022 23:21

They were all in mourning clothes. The media definitely knew before the announcement as they bumped the usual newsreader for Huw.

They didn’t. They were in preparation for a possible announcement and were getting ready. Or you’d have a load of complaints about Huw’s red tie and how inappropriate it was when the Queen was ill.

Ihaveanoldiphone · 09/09/2022 23:33

I thought the media knew as the reporters were all gathering outside the palace all wearing black, this was well before the announcement - I thought you wouldn’t do that unless you knew she had died.

Tobyone99 · 09/09/2022 23:33

I would imagine they pre-recorded the message so the news people would make the announcement when they weren’t crying in mourning over the queen’s death. Stop being such trolls. As far as knowing the queen didn’t have much time left, she was 96 years old, of course she didn’t have long to live. Surely even the trolls knew that, unless they aren’t just trolls but stupid trolls(?)

Iwasfeelingepic · 09/09/2022 23:34

Was Charles's speech today pre recorded before yesterday? It's being reported as pre recorded earlier today but so much stuff going about

Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:35

Ihaveanoldiphone · 09/09/2022 23:33

I thought the media knew as the reporters were all gathering outside the palace all wearing black, this was well before the announcement - I thought you wouldn’t do that unless you knew she had died.

They needed to be ready.

AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 09/09/2022 23:35

The BBC has full archives and departments who put together obits. There are loads already done for everyone significant.
The royal obits are updated regularly. It’s not odd or lying, it’s the knowledge that there will be hours of output to fill. The interviewers generally ask interviewees about past events. eg Edward spoke about the Olympics sketch the Queen filmed with Daniel Craig and Princess Anne talked about childhood memories, They would obviously be discussed in the past tense.
Boris knows exactly how these things work. The newspapers he worked on will have obits ready too. I don’t believe for a second he dead shocked or objected.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/09/2022 23:36

So glad it's not just me who wondered about the timing
There's also the point that today's changing of the guard was cancelled at a very early stage, which begs the question of why they'd have done that if the situation could have gone on for days ...

Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:37

Iwasfeelingepic · 09/09/2022 23:34

Was Charles's speech today pre recorded before yesterday? It's being reported as pre recorded earlier today but so much stuff going about

No. It was recorded this afternoon, I believe. The other tribute programmes were made a long time ago. As Pp said, Princess Anne featured heavily in the one about her father - recorded when he was alive - and she refers to him in the past tense.

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:38

Iwasfeelingepic · 09/09/2022 23:34

Was Charles's speech today pre recorded before yesterday? It's being reported as pre recorded earlier today but so much stuff going about

Pre recorded earlier today

AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 09/09/2022 23:39

The Media knew only what the public knew. The statement about medical supervision was all the media needed to go to Balmoral. All reporters carry (and all tv newsrooms have on hand) black ties/blouses/jackets just in case. These events are planned in meticulous detail years in advance so they are ready to go as soon as there’s any update.

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:41

Ihaveanoldiphone · 09/09/2022 23:33

I thought the media knew as the reporters were all gathering outside the palace all wearing black, this was well before the announcement - I thought you wouldn’t do that unless you knew she had died.

Many reporters have black tie / jacket etc in locker on stand by

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/09/2022 23:45

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:38

Pre recorded earlier today

While I don't doubt this I'm only surprised he had time; after all the day's been pretty full on, the speech was more than mere seconds, and what with repeat takes and so on ...

Ihaveanoldiphone · 09/09/2022 23:47

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:41

Many reporters have black tie / jacket etc in locker on stand by

Yes so they would’ve known at that point as they’d changed into their black clothes, which was well before the announcement which is when I figured she has passed.

Iwasfeelingepic · 09/09/2022 23:48

Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:37

No. It was recorded this afternoon, I believe. The other tribute programmes were made a long time ago. As Pp said, Princess Anne featured heavily in the one about her father - recorded when he was alive - and she refers to him in the past tense.

Thanks. I haven't been watching it all the time, so missed the tributes.

Ihaveanoldiphone · 09/09/2022 23:48

Having said that I still found the announcement shocking despite telling everyone that she’s sadly already passed. I guess it was actually hearing it officially.

CaramelTwirl · 09/09/2022 23:48

Tobyone99 · 09/09/2022 23:33

I would imagine they pre-recorded the message so the news people would make the announcement when they weren’t crying in mourning over the queen’s death. Stop being such trolls. As far as knowing the queen didn’t have much time left, she was 96 years old, of course she didn’t have long to live. Surely even the trolls knew that, unless they aren’t just trolls but stupid trolls(?)

People with different opinions on the internet are not trolls.

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:51

Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:35

They needed to be ready.

Why did they need to be ready? Can’t they deal with things as they happen? That’s the nature of news, fgs.

On the one hand you have posters berating others for allegedly wanting to know before family, and telling them it’s not their business. On the other hand we have the spectacle of the ultimate ‘we’re making it your business’ blanket media coverage for hours before and after the event, which is apparently ok.

Snowiscold · 10/09/2022 00:04

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:51

Why did they need to be ready? Can’t they deal with things as they happen? That’s the nature of news, fgs.

On the one hand you have posters berating others for allegedly wanting to know before family, and telling them it’s not their business. On the other hand we have the spectacle of the ultimate ‘we’re making it your business’ blanket media coverage for hours before and after the event, which is apparently ok.

If the media don’t report what they know, they are accused of lying, covering up. Reporting what they know is their job. At this point, they did know that the Queen was seriously ill and doctors were concerned-that’s what they knew, so that’s what was reported. There’s no cover-up. They didn’t know what the outcome of the Queen’s health would be -there’s been a number of scares in the past, where the obituaries are dusted off. But for the Palace to report that her doctors were concerned, that was clearly different and put a more imminent spin on things. But no one knew that her death would be hours, days, a couple of weeks away. All of this is reportable news, and of worldwide significance. Of course there would be coverage.

historicalnews · 10/09/2022 00:05

'Yes so they would’ve known at that point as they’d changed into their black clothes, which was well before the announcement which is when I figured she has passed.'

There had been criticism in the past about reporters / presenters not wearing black tie in these situations. When it became clear that things very serious (family travelling to Balmoral etc.) they were told to wear appropriate clothing in case.

Ihaveanoldiphone · 10/09/2022 00:06

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:51

Why did they need to be ready? Can’t they deal with things as they happen? That’s the nature of news, fgs.

On the one hand you have posters berating others for allegedly wanting to know before family, and telling them it’s not their business. On the other hand we have the spectacle of the ultimate ‘we’re making it your business’ blanket media coverage for hours before and after the event, which is apparently ok.

Exactly. I feel like I’m being gaslighted. They already knew, no they didn’t, yes they did, they had to prepare, ok so which is it? It’s none of your business! Honestly I don’t really care but don’t like unnecessary drama, royalty or not. It’s live news. Just be real ffs. We’ll forgive you for having paused news etc, stuttering, not having the perfect scripts etc as was the case when Diana died.

Snowiscold · 10/09/2022 00:10

Ihaveanoldiphone · 10/09/2022 00:06

Exactly. I feel like I’m being gaslighted. They already knew, no they didn’t, yes they did, they had to prepare, ok so which is it? It’s none of your business! Honestly I don’t really care but don’t like unnecessary drama, royalty or not. It’s live news. Just be real ffs. We’ll forgive you for having paused news etc, stuttering, not having the perfect scripts etc as was the case when Diana died.

They knew she was seriously on the decline - as per the Palace announcement - and were assuming she would die, and were preparing for that eventuality. No gaslighting.

Antarcticant · 10/09/2022 00:10

I don't personally think BBC 1 would have cancelled their entire schedule and spent five hours with a camera trained on the gates of Balmoral had there been any chance the Queen would 'recover'.

Ihaveanoldiphone · 10/09/2022 00:11

historicalnews · 10/09/2022 00:05

'Yes so they would’ve known at that point as they’d changed into their black clothes, which was well before the announcement which is when I figured she has passed.'

There had been criticism in the past about reporters / presenters not wearing black tie in these situations. When it became clear that things very serious (family travelling to Balmoral etc.) they were told to wear appropriate clothing in case.

I understand that, but there was no just incase about it, it was definitely happening and they knew and were of course waiting for it to be official to public because if they were unsure and she turned out to be ok it would have been strange them turning up in black without that announcement. Or would they have gone back home and all forgotten about. It’s weird to turn up in mourning clothes not knowing the person is dead. Once they’d got the announcement they would’ve changed into their clothes quickly as you say they have them in their lockers.

Snowiscold · 10/09/2022 00:14

Antarcticant · 10/09/2022 00:10

I don't personally think BBC 1 would have cancelled their entire schedule and spent five hours with a camera trained on the gates of Balmoral had there been any chance the Queen would 'recover'.

But they didn’t know when she would die. How would they? The Queen seriously ill, with royals flying in, doctors concerned -this is serious and major news in itself. For the Palace to say that her doctors were concerned is massive.