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BBC 1 tribute is rather odd

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meateatingveggie · 09/09/2022 21:32

I mean obviously it's pre recorded but how did they get them to speak of her in the past tense?

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Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:03

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:01

I’m not the poster in question, but I feel aggrieved, not that the public weren’t told immediately, but that there was such a circus beforehand. Wait till it’s happened, inform the media when appropriate, then make the public announcement. What’s wrong with that? Why does the media have to be poised, ready all the time?

Because then people would say they are being lied to…

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:04

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:01

I’m not the poster in question, but I feel aggrieved, not that the public weren’t told immediately, but that there was such a circus beforehand. Wait till it’s happened, inform the media when appropriate, then make the public announcement. What’s wrong with that? Why does the media have to be poised, ready all the time?

Quote fail. That was in response to BMW6

keeprunning55 · 09/09/2022 23:07

How do you know it wasn’t recorded after her death? I don’t understand-I’m a bit daft.

00100001 · 09/09/2022 23:07

CaramelTwirl · 09/09/2022 22:55

Exactly. Why have 6 hours of filler when everyone knew what the outcome would be.

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Because they were waiting for confirmation of the announcement.

It wasn't official until the palace said so.

A bit like if you already knew who hadbwonnthe general election, because you'd been present at the final count... Doesn't mean you're allowed to tell the world THAT MOMENT.

Or your grandchild was born at 2:30 pm and you found out at 2:45pm... And the other GPs didn't know yet or whoever.... You shouldn't be going and telling absolutely everyone you know about the news of the birth.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 09/09/2022 23:09

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:01

I’m not the poster in question, but I feel aggrieved, not that the public weren’t told immediately, but that there was such a circus beforehand. Wait till it’s happened, inform the media when appropriate, then make the public announcement. What’s wrong with that? Why does the media have to be poised, ready all the time?

I'm with you.

BMW6 · 09/09/2022 23:10

Well then people like CaramelTwirl would say there's a conspiracy and we're being lied to !!

The Public were made aware that the Queen was failing and her death was imminent. It wouldn't have been appropriate to keep to the usual TV schedule as that would be heartless and disrespectful.

The Public we're jeot up to date as appropriate and her death was announced at the proper time.

Honestly you have zero cause for this whinging.

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:11

keeprunning55 · 09/09/2022 23:07

How do you know it wasn’t recorded after her death? I don’t understand-I’m a bit daft.

It wasn't

00100001 · 09/09/2022 23:11

watcherintherye · 09/09/2022 23:01

I’m not the poster in question, but I feel aggrieved, not that the public weren’t told immediately, but that there was such a circus beforehand. Wait till it’s happened, inform the media when appropriate, then make the public announcement. What’s wrong with that? Why does the media have to be poised, ready all the time?

"Wait till it’s happened, inform the media when appropriate"

That's probably what happened actually.... She was dead when the news started reporting her very ill...they absolutely knew, but had to wait for official announcement to be made.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/09/2022 23:11

I was intrigued that it included more of the 1969 "Royal Family" film than we've seen before, and now I'm wondering if it'll be shown again in its entirety

NanaNelly · 09/09/2022 23:11

CaramelTwirl · 09/09/2022 21:35

Boris said he couldn't do it when asked months ago. So they must have known she was on her last legs.

No. They do it regularly so it’s up to date.

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:12

(There may have been some final edits and additions after the death but those significant interviews will have been done previously)

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:14

'That's probably what happened actually.... She was dead when the news started reporting her very ill...they absolutely knew, but had to wait for official announcement to be made.'

They didn't know at that stage

Dinoteeth · 09/09/2022 23:20

I think they knew when they started broadcasting yesterday too. But needed time to get stuff in place. How would they end that broadcast if she'd rallied round?

At no point did they mention treatment, hospital, just resting - like a body resting!

Chouetted · 09/09/2022 23:20

UnagiForLife · 09/09/2022 21:33

This must be what Boris Johnson was talking about in his speech today when he said a TV crew asked him to talk about the Queen in the past tense and he said he got emotional and couldn’t do it. I thought that sounded very strange but this explains it. It is very strange to get people to talk about someone in the past tense when they’re still alive, how awful!

I didn't think it was possible, but I just felt a twinge of sympathy for Boris - that does indeed sound awful. Presumably the Royals have had more time to get used to it.

MilliwaysUniverse · 09/09/2022 23:21

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:14

'That's probably what happened actually.... She was dead when the news started reporting her very ill...they absolutely knew, but had to wait for official announcement to be made.'

They didn't know at that stage

They were all in mourning clothes. The media definitely knew before the announcement as they bumped the usual newsreader for Huw.

00100001 · 09/09/2022 23:22

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:14

'That's probably what happened actually.... She was dead when the news started reporting her very ill...they absolutely knew, but had to wait for official announcement to be made.'

They didn't know at that stage

I think they did. Someone knew.

Someone knew enough to make the call for the programming. Otherwise it might have gone on for days and days.

It's like... If the top digs knew if you get given the alert from the palace that "we're concerned for the health of Queenie... " Start operation Bridge... Wink wink

The Queen was either already dead, or just waiting for confirmation from a Dr or whatever.

MaitreKarlsson · 09/09/2022 23:22

I used to work in telly and we had loads of obits on the shelf for anyone v important in case they died suddenly. It was someone's job to update them regularly for any major events, so for example the Queen's will have been updated when Philip died; pics of them together, her sitting on her own at the Abbey, update the script etc.
Otherwise everyone would be scrambling to fill all the space and channels would go to black. It takes ages to put a programme together, finding the archive footage, trying to get interviewees whonare available. May seem weird but there's nothing sinister about it.
It's exactly the same with all the newspapers - all the pages and pages of articles this morning weren't written overnight following the announcement yesterday evening. Just needed a few news articles and the rest were previously written features.

Rosewaterblossom · 09/09/2022 23:22

MilliwaysUniverse · 09/09/2022 23:21

They were all in mourning clothes. The media definitely knew before the announcement as they bumped the usual newsreader for Huw.

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Can I ask, I know Huw is a very long standing newsreader but is there any particular reason they would have used him over anyone else?

00100001 · 09/09/2022 23:24

Rosewaterblossom · 09/09/2022 23:22

Can I ask, I know Huw is a very long standing newsreader but is there any particular reason they would have used him over anyone else?

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Because he's part of the plan and would be prepared for this eventuality. Can't be dropping this task on any old random that hasn't been trained/prepared for this.

Zosime · 09/09/2022 23:24

No, I think that maybe the farce on the TV shouldn't have happened at all until they were ready to make the Queen is dead announcement.

Nobody was obliged to watch it. I believe televisions have something called an off switch.

Snowiscold · 09/09/2022 23:26

00100001 · 09/09/2022 23:11

"Wait till it’s happened, inform the media when appropriate"

That's probably what happened actually.... She was dead when the news started reporting her very ill...they absolutely knew, but had to wait for official announcement to be made.

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The media did not know or were involved in some sort of cover-up for six hours! As I said, the PM was told at about 16:30 and she would be about the first to know. The media were making preparations for an announcement all afternoon - just in case.

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:26

'Can I ask, I know Huw is a very long standing newsreader but is there any particular reason they would have used him over anyone else?'

He will have been a major part of all the rehearsals

CaramelTwirl · 09/09/2022 23:28

Zosime · 09/09/2022 23:24

No, I think that maybe the farce on the TV shouldn't have happened at all until they were ready to make the Queen is dead announcement.

Nobody was obliged to watch it. I believe televisions have something called an off switch.

🙄

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:30

The original announcement from the palace was significant and unusual enough for anyone never mind the media to realise that something serious was going on. And then members of the Royal family were travelling to Balmoral. It was very obvious that something was going to happen and the rolling news was put in place.
But at that stage the media categorically didn't know.

historicalnews · 09/09/2022 23:31

@Snowiscold is right