I envy people who have Faith

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I don't but it must be a real comfort to believe in a higher power and have something that gives a meaning to everything.

That's it really.

@SnoozyLucy7 I've addressed this in my answer to pointythings.

@Vincitveritas you are the kind of Christian who acknowledges the need for a leap of faith. I respect that.

Thank you, and I appreciate you not calling me bonkers.😆

You're clearly very sane! You and I just believe different things, that's all.

@Malie

Interesting that everyone who is open-abortion has already been born themselves

Interesting that every person who shares a viewpoint is... a person?

Is that really interesting to you? Gosh.

And it's pro-choice, not open-abortion (which isn't a phrase I've heard before) or pro-abortion.

Pro choice.

That's good to know.😊

Well said.

The passive aggressive 'God Bless' is also incredibly telling about their character.

Agreed!

You, like us atheists on the thread, share the humility to acknowledge we are not able to prove our beliefs are 100% the correct ones. We still hold those beliefs, but understand the difference between beliefs and facts.

It's a shame the other poster is unwilling to show the same humility as it's turned what's been a really interesting discussion into them ranting angrily and either misunderstanding or misrepresenting everything atheists are saying.

It's been bizarre to watch unfold!

Who are the gay lobby and how are they persecuting her?

Court doesn't just believe marriage is between a man and a woman. She wants same sex marriage to be illegal.

@MordinVasNormandy the gay lobby is where the gay agenda put their snacks during breaks in the meeting.

Also everything you said. I don't understand people who are opposed to marriage equality. How can you have any morals when your stance is to deny other people something that you yourself take for granted as a right? Aside from marriage historically being a social construct that used to be about land and property, why would you deny two people who love each other the right to formalise that love and obtain the legal protections it brings? Sounds pretty selfish and not very Christian to me.

Thanks for knowing how I feel better than I do. Now just calm down and discuss things rationally without all this nonsense

Get up to date. She opposed the legalising of gay marriage as did a whole lot of other people.

Of course if you just believe marriage is just a social construct then fair enough. Some of us believe it is rather more than that. I love my kids so should I be allowed to marry them both to avoid death duties?

Umbrella yes that's that I said. She wanted same sex marriage to be illegal. She wanted to impose her views on everyone else and deny people the right to marry who they love. She was bot persecuted.

Comparing homosexuality to paedophilia, I call bingo.

Yes so why don’t other people just say ‘live and let live’. But they don’t! 😀

Margaret Court has been robustly challenged for her homophobic views. And her views on apartheid. Below is a taster.

You honestly read the comments below below and believe it's wrong there have been calls from many people (of all different sexualities themselves) for her not to be celebrated with awards and other plaudits, I presume?

Even if you agree with her beliefs (which you likely do I guess based on you bringing her up) you really think that it's 'persecution' for her to be thought of as someone who should now not receive awards and plaudits and have tennis courts etc named after her?

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“To me, homosexuality is a choice,” she said.
Court called Martina Navratilova "a great player but I’d like someone at the top who the younger players can look up to. It’s very sad for children to be exposed to homosexuality. Martina is a nice person. Her life has just gone astray”

“We know that homosexuality is a lust of the flesh, so is adultery, fornication, all those things … they too know this, this is why they want marriage, because it’s self-satisfying. I think they know it comes against Christianity, the beliefs of God, but in some way it’s justifying.”

Court called on gay people who did not want marriage equality to speak up, saying it was really a minority of the LGBTI community campaigning for it. “Everybody knows that it is wrong but they’re after our young ones, that’s what they are after”.

“Tennis is full of lesbians. Even when I was playing there were only a couple there but those couple that led took young ones into parties,” Court said. “And what you get at the top is often what you’ll get right through that sport.”

”To dismantle this sole definition of marriage and try to legitimise what God calls abominable sexual practices that include sodomy, reveals our ignorance as to the ills that come when society is forced to accept law that violates their very own God-given nature of what is right and what is wrong,” Court said.

In 1970, Court kicked things off by praising South Africa’s apartheid policy (“South Africans have this thing better organised than any other country, particularly America,” she said. “I love South Africa. I’ll go back there any time.”)

And how often must I tell you not to orohect your anger on to me!

This is to @Malie obviously.

Who perhaps isn't actually aware of some of these things said by Court.

I hope so, anyway, otherwise it's even more disturbing to portray her as a victim of wrongdoing.

She actually said that South Africa was better organised than America as far as that wa# concerned. You ever been to South Africa or America ?

I have a book on my shelf called ‘How to miss the point’. I think you must feature in it! 😀

@Malie

She actually said that South Africa was better organised than America as far as that wa# concerned. You ever been to South Africa or America?

Yes, I've been to both.

And wow. Defending apartheid apologists now.

She said South Africa was better organised than anywhere else in the world as regards to apartheid and that she loved it there and that she would go back any time. She said it during apartheid there. Here's the quote:

"South Africans have this thing better organised than any other country, particularly America. I love South Africa. I’ll go back there any time.”

I'm staggered you're not horrified by that, even if you agree with her homophobic comments.

Do you know what apartheid was?

"They're after our young ones" jfc

You compared marrying a consenting adult of the same sex to marrying a child.