Anne Heche has died

[NellesVilla]

RIP 💐

Of course, it goes without saying.

But what about the people who are on the receiving end?

Some ghoulish comments on this thread.

There's no justification for drink or drug driving. None. If someone dies while drink or drug driving, the only positive thing you can say is thankfully no-one else died and there won't be any further incidents where people could die. But even so, people were injured and their home was destroyed.

As far as I am aware blood tests proved positive for cocaine, that's not the same as being under the influence. It's detectable in the blood stream for some time after the effects have worn off.

Maybe she was under the influence maybe not. Speculating is ghoulish but on this thread, I think it's valid to point out that this may have been a deliberate act to take her own life.

For what it's worth my sympathy isn't finite. I can feel bad for Anne, her family and the woman whose home she destroyed.

Having loosely followed this on the mainstream media, I had no idea the crash was self-inflicted and under the influence, they've been very discreet.

George Michael - another latterly troubled soul it seems - had a crash incident (Snappy Snaps) and another time threw himself out of a car at high speed. No one hurt - not even him - so he is now remembered fondly. The circumstances of those incidents remain under wraps, it seems.

If this were a suicide attempt by Heche, well, nobody has to sympathise if they don't want to, but people who throw themselves from buildings run the risk of falling on someone and killing them. I doubt she really thought that hitting a wall at high speed would possibly kill someone else - she should have, though.

Got to say, for someone meant to be troubled, the imdb lists a phenomenal amount of work, with lots of movies and series currently in post-production.

Its fairly unusual for a male homosexual to abuse a female/female child

That's because gays are not pedophiles. In fact they're not even sexually interested in women! Never mind kids.

He was bisexual - had 4 kids! - AND was a pedophile.

I feel empathy for anyone having to grow up in that kind of family.

RIP Anne.

But She didn’t, pointless thing to say.Also, there was no alcohol in Her system, there were traces of fentanyl and cocaine, which could have been in Her system for a while.She lost Her life, why can’t people just leave it at that.

If she was traumatised, she should have 'empathy' towards other people and not traumatise them too by ruining their house, no? Poor home owner surely not responsible for celebrity's troubles? Why SHE has to deal with the consequences? It's not fair, is it?

Re the “nothing excuses it” comments, it’s entirely possible to think that drug driving is inexcusable, to think it should be punished and to feel for the innocent victims while still having empathy for the driver in circumstances like this. I’m not excusing it, but I still think this is utterly tragic for all concerned.

It’s also possible to feel like this without having been instructed to ‘be kind’.

I think people have to remember this woman had children. One of whom is a young teen, the pain for those children and her family doesn’t bear thinking about. My heart goes out to them. No matter how troubled Anne was, she was still a mother, and her children are having to deal with this hugely tragic set of circumstances, and irrelevant of the cause, it is tragic.

Janedoe82 She had taken Cocaine, was photographed with a bottle of something in the footwell of her car. She drove at 90mph.

WorkChange What?!

Her father raped her as a child! So yes, some of us will always be sorry for her and the shit hand she got dealt from the very beginning.

ClasslessLady True. My brother died when he was ran over by a drunk driver. He was 21.

Thought so too. Tragic circumstances all round.

Shes not an actress I’ve seen before but it’s a name I’ve heard of.

I have a close relative who was killed by a drunk driver, and it made me incredibly single minded about it. I didn't care about reasons, or excuses, or addictions, or trauma, and for a long time I had the attitude of "I don't care how damaged you are, you don't move that hurt forward". I was stubborn in my views, but even then, I never wanted the driver to be punished by death, especially not the way Anne died. I have been through trauma in adulthood and consequent spiralling mental health, fortunately managed to sidestep serious addiction, I'm not sure how because I certainly tried to self-medicate myself enough. Childhood trauma leaves a mark, a big one. The way our society supports and copes with it is not working, the way we judge each other is not working, piling shame upon shame does not work. I am not better than someone who makes shit decisions and ends up hurting other people because of unresolved trauma. I'm just extremely thankful that I don't have that on my conscious and I feel for people that do. I do understand the commenters that have no sympathy or tolerance, because for a long time I would have said a similar thing. But I have realised that "There but for the grace of God go I... "(and I'm not even religious). I think what is happened to this lady is sad. I would be sad for her if she wasn't famous, and just a story I heard about a stranger. It IS sad.

Lots of other people have died today around the world, most of whom lived much tougher lives than she did and who did not make reckless decisions that harmed the lives of others and put other people at risk of death. I'd prefer to feel sympathy for all those other people who have died today and for the people whose lives she traumatised with her awful, self-indulgent choices than to feel sorry for a very privileged woman who behaved as badly as she did.

@gatehouseoffleet

You say nobody deserves that, not her
But if it had happened to her father or someone like him I'd say he got what he deserved. X

I'd blame her rapist.

Getting raped by your dad as a child is privileged?

My grandma was killed by a drunk policeman who was driving a car home recklessly in the middle of an afternoon after coming off-shift . She suffered for a week afterwards. He did not even get a prison sentence - pleaded stress as mitigating factor. I hate people who drink and drive and have no sympathy at all for them, ever.

Many people suffer trauma in their lives. They make choices about how they deal with it. Her choice was to behave in ways that put other people's lives at risk. She was very privileged in many ways- and very self-indulgent as drunks often are.

I feel shocked though, when she sat bolt upright on the stretcher, I thought she would recover.

It was most likely the adrenaline with cocaine mix.

It makes me loose my positive thoughts about restoring my hope in human kindness…seriously why are people so uncaring ?
Are they just lacking in being amazing,empathic human beings who just actually do not care 🤷‍♀️