Big Dog is enjoying his last weeks. Who will be leader - Truss or Sunak Thread 13

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New thread as needed.

I wonder what new promises will come out this week?

I did double check the user name too @countrygirl99.

I can’t believe it’s a real person over some sort of paid-to-troll employee. It’s so far removed from reality.

Martin Lewis the only one who seems to really care and he hasn't any authority to do anything.
He is so honest too when he is being interviewed etc.
it is sad how many people will be effected by all of this.

Have they?
i thought the way around paying any extra tax was just to commit to current investment levels? so no tax payable.

Maybe i got that wrong.

Someone in a well paid position, with substantial savings and no empathy, might well take the view that "we should all be lucky we aren't at war"

Any well off Tory would do.

Back in May , Rishi sunak was being interviewed by a bbc correspondent ( can't remember who , but a political one)
He asked him if this was a ' windfall ' tax
Rishi spoke 'around the houses' trying to say that it wasn't. The interviewer concluded that it was
I can remember sitting there a bit confused by all this, but my own conclusion was they didn't want to call it a windfall tax , for whatever reason wasn't made clear.

True @Alexandra2001, maybe I’ve been too influenced by ‘the undeclared war’ but I can’t help but feel that it’s in a few powers interests to destabilise public support for Ukraine with agitators at this point.

When you read such a caricature it’s quite hard to tell the difference!

I can remember sitting there a bit confused by all this, but my own conclusion was they didn't want to call it a windfall tax , for whatever reason wasn't made clear

iirc it’s because that’s what Labour called for.

Rishi sunak looked very uncomfortable being interviewed about the help that is coming in October. The 400 for every household
Not too long after this interview he resigned etc.

Does he get £400 help for each of his 12 house (holds)?

Yes, anyone with more than one house gets the help ( so I've read online , but I don't have a source)
You can't even donate it to charity ( if you wanted to ) as it goes directly to your energy company and to your own account.
So the company gets it back anyway ! If you want to look at it like that. It's still a help , but it won't go far if we have a bad / snowy winter.

405 MPs have claimed energy bills for their second homes, there is no cap on it, and so far it is £490,000 this year. They don't care do they? And Liz Truss is one of them.

That's good to know.
It must be a worry for Rishi how to heat all those homes, especially now his wife may have to pay a little bit of tax as well.
No wonder he wants to leave the UK to live elsewhere.

I've had sleepless nights worrying about the second home owners / those with pools or spas and those who supposedly 'work for us '
.. how will they cope ?
They might have to crowd fund?
Or just claim it back in expenses , let the tax payers help them out ! There's a plan for you
They really are a bunch of scourgers

Yes I had the flu jab text about 5 weeks ago and booked it for October clinic which is when they have it.

Ironically though the text was for my jab. I only get it because I'm a carer for ds who has a neurological condition. I've heard nothing about his flu or covid booster

We do actually know where the PM is.

I'm Ukraine telling us that things may be bad but at least we aren't being invaded by Russia 🙄

There was another interview on bbc too where Sunak kept going on about how things needed to change because of what's happened in the country for the last decade.

And the interviewer quite rightly asked him why he though the Tory's would change that and did he not realise that they had been 8n power for the last 12 years and were responsible for it.

I think the Tory party still think they can blame Labour for the countries finances. We are about a decade past that.

The chancellor has been on tv ( news) now.
He didn't sound too reassuring.

I think this thread is mistitled. I have seen no evidence that Truss or Sunak are capable of leading a paper bag, let alone a government.

They'll undoubtedly claim it in expenses, so we'll be paying the increase twice over. Cleverly claimed £200K in expenses last year, I guess we can expect £300K for him this year.

How can they get away with all these extra expenses ?
I thought that was all sorted out when the expenses scandal hit many years ago and politicians were pulled up for claiming for even tiny amounts ( chocolates, porn films, cleaning the moats etc ) all of them were at it ( not just the conservatives either )
Yet it seems it still goes on.
Why isn't this reported more ?
Grr 😠

I wish I knew

"According to the self-explanatory website MPs Expenses, UK MPs are said to have claimed a whopping £132,159,995.91 for a total of 117,258 different items between February 1, 2021 and January 31, 2022.
Brendan Clarke-Smith of Bassetlaw is thought to have expensed the most with £267,512.51 to his name, while the least amount claimed back was by Eastleigh MP, Mims Davies, who hasn't taken so much as a penny back over that period."

Wow, she’s a Tory too, bet the rest of them hate her.

Well done to Mim Davies MP.
Clearly someone with some principles

Something untoward about that info. Are we supposed to believe that Mim Davies doesn't have a constituency office? A PA? Doesn't use paper, envelopes, stamps, pens?

Well it is important that the MP for Riyadh and Moscow who has Polish parents, learns Polish at the taxpayers expense, even though he is already perfectly capable of getting by in the language.
Of course £10,000s of pounds for lesson in a language you already speak is fine.