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Big Dog is enjoying his last weeks. Who will be leader - Truss or Sunak Thread 13

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cakeorwine · 08/08/2022 19:09

New thread as needed.

I wonder what new promises will come out this week?

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Blossomtoes · 11/08/2022 13:09

According to the DM

'Until the social care crisis has been sorted out, so that hospital beds are freed up, these gross blockages in the system will continue indefinitely.

'Patients are languishing in hospital corridors or in the back of ambulances in their thousands every day and the Government appears to have no plan to sort it out.'

It seems unlikely that patients waiting hours for a bed are there for period pains or earache. 🤷‍♀️

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 13:32

Adam Bienkov

After meeting with electricity companies this morning, Boris Johnson says his government will "keep urging the electricity sector to continue working on ways we can ease the cost of living pressure."

No announcement of new measures.

itsgettingweird · 11/08/2022 13:53

Neither of the nurses who looked after Johnson still works in the NHS, in fact one has returned to New Zealand so they’re free to say whatever they like now. As you say, they wouldn’t have commented at the time so they’d obviously not have refuted whatever tommyrot Johnson came out with.

My suspicious minds wonders why 2 nurses hailed as heroes for saving the PMs life (he managed a very short stay in hospital compared to covid patients needing icu) that had to sign the OSA both decided to leave the nhs and the country.

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itsgettingweird · 11/08/2022 13:55

SueSaid · 11/08/2022 09:28

'He was put in ICU (not on a ventilator) as a precaution because of who he is.'

Patients are sometimes in ICU (not on a ventilator) for monitoring. Repeated arterial blood gas monitoring isn't something done on the wards for example. I'll say it again ICU consultants would not have gone along with the farce you are stating as fact.

'Why are we discussing the health of a has been PM more than two years after the event?'

Oh I cba to scroll back but some posters claimed it was all made up. He was sat in a sideroom having a party no doubt.

They also would have out him in ICU because - let's face it - who wants to be the dr or nurse who allows the PM to die of covid 9n their watch?!

itsgettingweird · 11/08/2022 14:00

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 11:49

Mirror reporting that Boris Johnson was a surprise attendee at today's energy firms meeting in Downing Street...

Pat on the back for doing his job.

It is very worrying when it's a "surprise" the PM turns up to do his job!

itsgettingweird · 11/08/2022 14:05

SueSaid · 11/08/2022 12:36

'BREAKING | Nearly 30,000 waited more than 12 hours in English A&Es last month'

Because many treat A&E as the first port of call rather than ringing 111, sending econsults for routine stuff, getting an appointment at their GPs for urgent issues or seeing nurse practitioners etc.

If you went to A&E actually unwell with something like a broken leg, a heart attack etc you would not wait 12hrs. Earache and period pains, yes.

That would make sense but we know fundamentally it isn't true because otherwise those waiting outside in ambulances wouldn't be there. They need to be seen quicker than ear ache and period pain. And in many cases quicker than a broken leg although some fractures have more of an emergency.

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 14:18

Shock I have never seen this video before. But project fear...

As ambulance waiting times, A&E waiting times and procedure waiting lists hit record highs, I was reminded of that split-screen Vote Leave video, that blamed the EU for your loved one being in distress while Obviously Foreign Man is seen ahead of her. ~AA
twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1557709954999619584?t=Gr5TtAbmlHrl9Ajm1q55jw&s=19

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 14:36

The strange case of Johnson's wedding host

Law firm Schillings is trying to prevent the media from publishing photos of the home of Tory donors Anthony and Carole Bamford, who were generous enough to host Carrie and Boris Johnson wedding celebrations last month.
twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1557321829013790720?t=MnyFHMtL-8TCgygxiGuhjA&s=19

Cornettoninja · 11/08/2022 14:39

SueSaid · 11/08/2022 12:36

'BREAKING | Nearly 30,000 waited more than 12 hours in English A&Es last month'

Because many treat A&E as the first port of call rather than ringing 111, sending econsults for routine stuff, getting an appointment at their GPs for urgent issues or seeing nurse practitioners etc.

If you went to A&E actually unwell with something like a broken leg, a heart attack etc you would not wait 12hrs. Earache and period pains, yes.

Christ, it’s like you’ve never ventured further than your own front door. You’re basically denying reality because it’s not right under your nose.

Are you really so frightened of reality that fantasy is all you can cope with?

Piggywaspushed · 11/08/2022 14:44

Latterly signing in. On holiday so fallen behind!

Cornettoninja · 11/08/2022 14:45

@DuncinToffee re: that brexit video. With ‘project fear’ we’re back to trumpisim and blatantly doing whatever they accuse the other side of doing. It’s the best indicator of what they have been/are up to.

ClaudineClare · 11/08/2022 14:45

Maybe janiiejones has a mindset similar to that of the elderly chaps mentioned here:

twitter.com/AlanGalaxy/status/1557697712845471744?s=20&t=h_eY9Z4ule4WdufZHq4sUg

Piggywaspushed · 11/08/2022 14:47

I had to wait 16 hours for a bed last summer. They were very very apologetic. I definitely did not have period pain.

Roussette · 11/08/2022 14:55

No new measures after BJ turned up at an energy meeting.
But he's "urging" them to do something.
Is this the same as "straining every sinew"?

Cornettoninja · 11/08/2022 14:58

ClaudineClare · 11/08/2022 14:45

Maybe janiiejones has a mindset similar to that of the elderly chaps mentioned here:

twitter.com/AlanGalaxy/status/1557697712845471744?s=20&t=h_eY9Z4ule4WdufZHq4sUg

Don’t Look Up.

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2022 15:22

"Is this the same as "straining every sinew"?"

I'd say it's more like letting the Cheltenham Festival go ahead knowing you need to bring in restrictions asap but don't want to upset your donors.

It's patently bloody obvious Truss is going to shift from her no handouts speech. We just have to wait for the right time for Truss to be certain she'll get the full benefit of her magnanimity. September 6th? 7th? Maybe hang out for a week (then she'll be straining every sinew).

Don't forget to be grateful when they finally do tell us. It really doesn't matter that they could have settled peoples concerns earlier.

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 16:24

Cornettoninja · 11/08/2022 14:45

@DuncinToffee re: that brexit video. With ‘project fear’ we’re back to trumpisim and blatantly doing whatever they accuse the other side of doing. It’s the best indicator of what they have been/are up to.

It always seems to come back to Trumpism, doesn’t it.

How we laughed at the US....

AndreaC74 · 11/08/2022 16:43

SueSaid · 11/08/2022 12:36

'BREAKING | Nearly 30,000 waited more than 12 hours in English A&Es last month'

Because many treat A&E as the first port of call rather than ringing 111, sending econsults for routine stuff, getting an appointment at their GPs for urgent issues or seeing nurse practitioners etc.

If you went to A&E actually unwell with something like a broken leg, a heart attack etc you would not wait 12hrs. Earache and period pains, yes.

Do you have anything to back up your assertions?

Almost 100,000 people with serious heart problems, including some “living on borrowed time”, are enduring long waits for potentially life-saving NHS care because hospitals are so busy
Some of them are in such poor health they will have a heart attack and die as a consequence of facing such “dangerous” long delays, the British Heart Foundation has warned
The number of patients in England being forced to wait more than the supposed maximum 18 weeks for cardiac treatment has trebled since Covid-19 struck, from 32,186 in February 2020 to an unprecedented 96,321, a BHF analysis of published NHS England data shows

Perhaps they are being alarmist and shouldn't publish....

tobee · 11/08/2022 16:45

Yes the depressing thing is you think with Trump and Johnson et al that the failure of their terms in office would make people think (even republicans and Tories) let's not that happen again. Where In fact there's plenty thinking let's get Trump and Johnson back, or someone equally shit to run the country for their own pleasure and enrichment.

Checks and balances that people claim can stop too much power in one narcissist's hands doesn't seem to add up to much.

How we laughed at Russia...or China....

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 16:47

Sky is reporting the latest energy bills forecast to soar above £5,000 next year

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2022 16:49

'Witch hunt' is popular with both Johnson and Trump supporters at the moment

Roussette · 11/08/2022 17:01

Yeah...it's always a witch hunt which means they don't want to be answerable to anyone so querying anything is a 'witch hunt'

L1ttledrummergirl · 11/08/2022 17:02

I'm still unwell following covid. Although better than I was was lungs are still not working properly.

When I was really unwell I had a blood test with the gp practice, they then asked me to have another one done before they could start to treat me. The practice nurse had a week wait so I had dh take me to our nearest hospital where they do walk in tests as long as you have the form from the gp

Dh dropped me at the door before parking the car and had to walk passed a&e where he counted 25 ambulances waiting.

I suspect some of the people there that day had a wait.

tobee · 11/08/2022 17:03

L1ttledrummergirl · 11/08/2022 17:02

I'm still unwell following covid. Although better than I was was lungs are still not working properly.

When I was really unwell I had a blood test with the gp practice, they then asked me to have another one done before they could start to treat me. The practice nurse had a week wait so I had dh take me to our nearest hospital where they do walk in tests as long as you have the form from the gp

Dh dropped me at the door before parking the car and had to walk passed a&e where he counted 25 ambulances waiting.

I suspect some of the people there that day had a wait.

Hope you're feeling back to your old self soon!

Fladdermus · 11/08/2022 17:03

I don't understand why the government have allowed it to get this bad. They're hiding behind covid but that's bullshit.

There was a woman on the news last night who had her mammograph cancelled twice due to covid. Then found a pea sized lump but didn't get to see anyone because of covid. Sadly this led to her eventually being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. It could have been found and treated if it weren't for covid. It was heartbreaking.

I'm not in the UK. We had covid too. But basic healthcare still continued. I had my mammogram like normal. They found a lump. I was seen just over a week a later. Tested, treated and given the all clear on the same day. Throughout covid I still got to see my GP same day for urgent care, around 4 weeks for non urgent. Yes some appointments were over the phone, but always face to face if needed.

I don't know why the British people are accepting the absolute mess this tory government are making of everything, but especially your health care. The unions are right, enough is enough!