Jack monroe challenged on twitter

[KarlWrenbury]

Maybe by a sock puppet account Etc but yes- how are they still not making ends meet after all this time ?

The issue is she's pretending to be poor so that her fans will give her cash.

Tbh i don't even consider Georgia EE. Kvkaz is a separe area in my head.

But! Anyone who ever saw any american tv show would bloody recognise the church and setting style...

Tsandjdarethrbest You shouldn't defend her because you don't know any of the facts.

@TrashPandas What? That’s the whole point. So much speculation and nobody knows for sure what her situation is. I’ll probably get attacked just for saying that. I genuinely wonder what motivates you to spend your day trashing someone you don’t know on social media. It can’t be the best use of your time.

I’ve seen a long thread on Twitter of people defending her. It’s interesting because it’s all just accusing her detractors of misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, being jealous, not liking her speaking truth to power, tall poppy syndrome etc etc and saying she shouldn’t be criticised because she does so much good. No one engaging with the actual criticism, which is just that things she says don’t add up and her claiming to have no money makes no sense.

it is this weird SM thing of putting someone on a pedestal and then attacking any critics because you have to keep believing your idol is wonderful and perfect, instead of actually engaging in a discussion. It’s the same the other way round - if someone is perceived as a sinner, for having GC views for example, then they are 100% evil and even liking or following them makes you bad.

To keep seeing people like this you have to not engage with any criticism, analysis or evidence. No one can do both good and bad things, have a mixture of traits, or have a point when they go against the “correct” view.

Tsandjdarethrbest What? Have you even read the thread? None of it is speculation - it's all things that Jack has said and then contradicted. We don't know which version is true but we know at least one of the versions is a lie.

You're very strange.

So she's just a raging fantasist then 🤔 Appears to have every ailment, affliction and tale of woe that one person can have...
Off to Twitter 👀

Yes it is really strange the accusations of transphobia etc. The thread that outlined all of the lies and inconsistencies was basically just made up of screen shots of Jack's own comments, no whatever-phobias came into play at all.

It really is very telling that none of her defenders can explain or justify her lies. All they can do is make up people's motives for "attacking" her.

Jack Monroe weaponising harmful and untrue stereotypes about autistic people to save their arse (see current Twitter feed) is absolutely abhorrent and something that really should be called out IMO.

In the early days I thought Jack was actually doing ‘good’ and helpful work but the more I followed them on Twitter the more uncomfortable I felt with the inconsistencies and gaping holes in the back story (and the current story as well!). The thread on twitter by AM is literally Jack’s own (often inconsistent, mostly outright bollocks!) words tweeted side by side - there’s no way Jack should be able to wiggle out of this one.

Katie Hopkins is a horrible awful troll but there’s an awful lot of goodwill extended to Jack for suing her and I do hope that has reached the end of the line because frankly, JM has been grifting for years and her own Twitter feed (before she deletes it all) will tell you that. Any, even the most gentle call out or questioning, leads to an awful snarky response from Jack (often ended with a ‘go well x’) a torrent of abuse from Jack’s followers and then being blocked. Tale as old as time. The AM Twitter thread is not disrespectful to any gender identity, it doesn’t mention (as far as I’m aware) autism or any other diagnosis anyone might have - it literally just points out glaring plot holes in JMs own tweets, side by side.

The tattle thread is laugh out loud funny though, and the Georgia Church suppers debacle was (in JM’s own words) ‘an absolute banger’. The kitten stuff was animal abuse.

I think she's a very troubled person with mental health issues and due to that, she struggles to budget.

She's told many lies and people are now getting very critical of her and rightly calling her out for the blatant lies and over-exagerating she's done. This is bound to make her mental health issues worse. It would be better for her to step away from the spotlight and get a steady job.

Like pp, I wonder about the impact of all of this on her son. She's very public with everything. It can't be easy for him at school.

I've also often wondered what her son's father makes of all this. She's been very public about how she was so poor she struggled to feed herself and her son and was forced to resort to an extremely frugal lifestyle because she had no money. That was how she got famous, it was her whole schtick. I remember at the time thinking her son's father must be a terrible person to stand back and watch as his own child lived like that. I called him a number of expletives in my head. Why wasn't he paying child maintenance? Why wasn't he helping with food shopping or caring for the child? JM said something about not telling family or friends (and presumably her son's father) how much she was struggling because she was embarrassed but that didn't quite ring true. Kids talk. They are very honest and her son is bound to have told his dad and other family members and probably kids and teachers at school. Eventually, JM made a social media post about how amazingly wonderful her son's father is. That's the opposite of what she was implying for years beforehand when she used to talk about not being able to buy her son clothes and school uniform, not being able to buy treats or even to feed him properly, raising her son on the bare minimum and feeling bad for him that he had to live like that.

I go from feeling anger at the lies to feeling sorry for her because she's clearly very troubled. Her "poverty cosplaying" as a pp termed it, is completely out of order and is sticking two fingers up to all those who genuinely are struggling with no wealthy family or amazingly wonderful child's father on the scene.

@Tsandjdarethrbest i wonder if this is how Jamie Oliver felt when she orchestrated that pile on…or David Walliams? It’s her comeuppance.

Also the myth that you can live on £20 a week as a single parent with a growing child plays directly into the right wing rhetoric that all poor people are just bad with money and can’t cook and JM should absolutely be binned off for perpetuating it.

JM is currently claiming on Twitter that many of her patreon subscribers pay around £1 per month. This may be true. Jack has just under 800 of them. If they all pay £1 per month (spoiler alert, they won’t!) that’s almost £800 a month for doing nothing - JM’s patreon has not been updated since nov 2020. How much longer can the supporters listen to JM bleat about melting down soap to make shower gel (lol just use the soap you utter melt) and using solar powered lights while they’re being paid £800+ to do sweet FA?

Oh man I'm going on a deep dive this afternoon... she doesn't come across as very likeable in her tweets, never understood her allure 😬

No that’s not what I mean AT ALL. I mean that you find a way of pursuing your dream and paying your way. Part time work , full time work while you build your business. Not expecting other people to pay FOR you.

Also the myth that you can live on £20 a week as a single parent with a growing child plays directly into the right wing rhetoric that all poor people are just bad with money and can’t cook and JM should absolutely be binned off for perpetuating it.

Agree with this.

She didn’t think that one through did she?

She claims she hasn't been able to afford shampoo and conditioner for two years and is surviving on £20 per week but in December posted on Twitter about achieving a certain look by using three different products, including a conditioner that costs around £9. Her defenders need to start explaining her contradictions.

If her social media presence wasn't so toxic and questionable she would have been snapped up by mainstream television long ago. There's obviously something making television producers wary.

She has a paid partnership with Superdrug, yet still can't afford shampoo.

Sorry, had a paid partnership, can't see that lasting.

Seriously, it's insane.

I think I've been a sucker here. I've followed her for years, never really analysed her tweets or what she does, just saw her as a force of good.

However the thread shows such glaring contradictions and as pp said it's not even as if it's someone else saying it about her, it's JM's words, all of it. You could argue that it's a bit obsessive and weird that someone has delved so deep into all this but it doesn't make it any less true. I see JM has responded saying the thread is libellous but I don't see how it can be.

Really shocked actually.

Also the myth that you can live on £20 a week as a single parent with a growing child plays directly into the right wing rhetoric that all poor people are just bad with money and can’t cook and JM should absolutely be binned off for perpetuating it.

@Motorcycleemptyness The first time I ever heard of her was about 10 years ago when someone on here linked to a horrible blog post she’d written about obese people claiming they couldn’t afford to eat healthily on a low income.

It was a real angry rant about laziness and how if she and her child could eat healthily on £10 a week then so could these fat ignorant people! She could help them but they had to want to change.

She deleted it after the backlash on this thread and presumably elsewhere. There’s no trace of it online now.

It came across as snobby and judgmental but at least she knew what she was talking about if she and her son were living that well on a £10 a week food budget, right? 😬

I thought she seemed great when she first appeared, I bought her first book, I was a single parent on benefits and a keen cook so it made sense.
I have not an ounce of sympathy now, she cosplayed lives like mine and made a lot of money doing it ffs, it's sick.

I hate witch hunts and trolling in general.

I'm yet to see an explanation by ardent JM followers as to why they are happy to criticise, accuse and in some cases, abuse those who are questioning of JM's lies and actions - something that ironically, they claim those who are merely questioning and calling out JM are doing.

We have countless public figures both presently and historically who have been vilified for their actions, rightly or wrongly. Before any JM supporters jump down my throat, I am not likening JM to Boris, but look at case in point there. Boris was discovered to be deceptive about many different things. For some reason criticising and questioning him was acceptable (and something I did too).

I take the same line with anybody who purports inaccuracies in order to benefit financially (or otherwise) - I actually politically and probably morally align with JM (and also have ADHD/have been in minor poverty) and contrary to JM who claims their questioners "want her dead", I actually want to want to like and support them because on a surface level we have a lot of commonalities. I would question anybody who behaves in such a way, regardless of who they are. A pile on implies that it is in some way unfair or unjust. At what point do we collectively, as a society, agree when someone can be questioned? Do we turn a blind eye just because they've got mental health issues, a child, illnesses, have lived in assumed poverty? Or do we hold people to the same standards we would with everyone else? Who are we allowed to question without being accused?

If you spend £20 a week on your food shop and you can’t afford shampoo why are you buying a dog for £2k?! I think the puppy was only bought in the last couple of months.

Claims the dog (along with the Tiffany earrings and the OG Emin in the loo) were gifts. It is laughable.

Who the fuck can’t afford shampoo but is ‘gifted’ a designer dog? Dogs aren’t gifts!! They’re 15 year commitments. JM is an actual danger.