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Jack monroe challenged on twitter

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KarlWrenbury · 02/08/2022 13:42

Maybe by a sock puppet account Etc but yes- how are they still not making ends meet after all this time ?

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FictionalCharacter · 02/08/2022 21:16

PollyDarton1 · 02/08/2022 18:37

Also - of course ADHD is a ND. But unlike most people, JM weaponises something that is undiagnosed to justify their behaviour or inconsistencies. Most people who suspect they have a medical condition do not add it to their Twitter bio like a badge of honour - they suspect, get a referral, may talk about it lightly and if diagnosed, probably talk about it some more. I have a MH diagnosis, and have delivered seminars and training on MH countless times in the past. I'm an advocate for MH awareness. What I don't do is a) tell everyone who will listen about it endlessly to excuse something I may or may have not done, and b) intertwine it so tightly with my identity that it prevents ordinary people from questioning my actions in case they trigger me to spiral.

Right. So far she’s diagnosed herself with osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis, adhd, autism, other unspecified mental illnesses, past alcoholism, long Covid. Then there are the sick animals and emergency vet bills. These are used to justify things she has done / doesn’t want to do or to ask her worshippers for more adoration and money. Those people desperately want to believe in her - nobody wants to admit they’re being taken for a fool.

BornIn78 · 02/08/2022 21:27

The self diagnosis of long covid was a corker - after having covid for about 5 days.

SqueakyShoe · 02/08/2022 21:30

She has such a high profile that she should be running her brand like a proper business by now.

She must rub too many people the wrong way to not have management or good business advice.

Bloggers, media personalities, influencers and cookbook authors can make good money. JM is all those things so there is something very wrong if she's not earning.

blacksax · 02/08/2022 21:41

I didn't think that cat was at risk, and in the end nature just took its course. This is absolutely a legal and normal option.

Three separate vets advised otherwise. As for being legal? Perhaps you need to read Section 4 of the Animal Welfare Act 2006.

tenbob · 02/08/2022 21:45

This has got some striking parallels with Belle Gibson in Australia…

it didn’t end well for Belle once people
started piecing together the gaps in the narrative, especially around the origin story and the self-diagnosed serious illnesses

A580Hojas · 02/08/2022 21:45

I don't know if it's considered "unkind" to say this but for JM to still be pleading poverty after however many years it is she's been in the public eye - it's just nonsense. With her public profile and contacts she could have made and saved a huge amount of money.

KarlWrenbury · 02/08/2022 22:09

Anyone who asks for money on twitter is invariably a grifter.

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ScreamingMeMe · 02/08/2022 22:22

potniatheron · 02/08/2022 17:01

Jack's partner left her. Jack bought a kitten that had congenital deformities and was too young anyway to be removed from its mother, and named the kitten after her ex's beloved childhood pet. she took the kitten to 3 different vets who all said its deformities were too severe, it was liekly in a lot of pain and the kindest thing was to put it down. Jack did not put it down but paraded it over social media, placed it with her adult, very large and territorial cat, showed videos of her forcing it to walk etc (it had deformed hips amongst other things). It was a little creepy because the kitten's eyes were so glazed and pained. She gave the kitten a shower / bath for social media, and relatively soon after that the kitten died on its own. Jack made a eulogy for it on a monetised youtube vid. she may also have accepted donations for the kitten's treatment, can't recall.

it was very unpleasant episode and difficult to understand tbh. I think she was upset because her ex had left.

That's horrible! That poor kitten.

JohnsShirt · 02/08/2022 22:29

ScreamingMeMe · 02/08/2022 22:22

That's horrible! That poor kitten.

She did ask for money for the kitten's vet bills.
I followed that whole episode, it was really upsetting.

Univalve · 02/08/2022 22:43

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 02/08/2022 18:33

Having been the daughter of someone who suffered from it and experienced the exhausting drama of it, maybe this whole thing is more about NPD?

Absolutely yes. Definitely a PD. Probably none of any of the other things she claims.

EarringsandLipstick · 03/08/2022 07:18

Yes, the kitten episode was really upsetting - I'm not a pet owner & don't know much at all about what's best for cats but even j could see this was not tenable. I found JM's near-hysteria & excitement over the poor deformed kitten & cataloguing its ailments, nearly glorifying them, beyond repugnant.

ReneBumsWombats · 03/08/2022 07:22

I knew there had been some dispute over her back story but that was the first I knew about the kitten. If it's true, it's beyond appalling and will surely end her career. I don't think most people care if she hammed her past a bit to be marketable, but that's another level.

EarringsandLipstick · 03/08/2022 07:26

ReneBumsWombats · 03/08/2022 07:22

I knew there had been some dispute over her back story but that was the first I knew about the kitten. If it's true, it's beyond appalling and will surely end her career. I don't think most people care if she hammed her past a bit to be marketable, but that's another level.

The kitten was ages ago. All over Twitter.

Hasn't ended her career.

Although I think most TV producers would be wary of going near her & I sense there's a general feeling of her not being reliable but no-one media-wise will say it publicly & draw her on them (legal action etc)

ReneBumsWombats · 03/08/2022 07:41

EarringsandLipstick · 03/08/2022 07:26

The kitten was ages ago. All over Twitter.

Hasn't ended her career.

Although I think most TV producers would be wary of going near her & I sense there's a general feeling of her not being reliable but no-one media-wise will say it publicly & draw her on them (legal action etc)

The accounts from the time seem to be claiming she was a good owner and the poor thing died while resting on her?

If it's true, it seems someone has now said it, albeit anonymously. If she sues, can Twitter be compelled to give the details of the account?

EarringsandLipstick · 03/08/2022 07:46

The accounts from the time seem to be claiming she was a good owner and the poor thing died while resting on her?

Not sure what accounts you mean? I followed her own Twitter posts.

JM was saying she was being kind to the kitten etc but it was clear the poor thing was not going to be able to live long, and JM ignored all the professional advice.

There's nothing 'new' - it was all there on her own account at the time.

ReneBumsWombats · 03/08/2022 08:18

EarringsandLipstick · 03/08/2022 07:46

The accounts from the time seem to be claiming she was a good owner and the poor thing died while resting on her?

Not sure what accounts you mean? I followed her own Twitter posts.

JM was saying she was being kind to the kitten etc but it was clear the poor thing was not going to be able to live long, and JM ignored all the professional advice.

There's nothing 'new' - it was all there on her own account at the time.

I don't follow her closely, I missed this completely when it happened, so obviously I could be very wrong. I looked back on her Twitter and saw a couple of articles from the time that all gave a positive spin to her image on the story and nothing about being shut in a bathroom...though they did mention that more than one vet had recommended putting the poor thing down, which I believe would have set my alarms off at the time had I seen it. Vets don't recommend euthanasia for shits and giggles.

NashvilleQueen · 03/08/2022 08:31

She carried the poor thing about in a baby sling type contraption calling it 'kitten wearing'

EarringsandLipstick · 03/08/2022 09:27

NashvilleQueen · 03/08/2022 08:31

She carried the poor thing about in a baby sling type contraption calling it 'kitten wearing'

God yes I remember that 🤢

It was all about her own gratification. That's the awful part of it.

Ohshitiveturnedintomymother · 03/08/2022 10:17

I’m really pleased that this has all come out. I’ve followed the tattle threads for a while and it’s incredible the contradictions and inconsistencies she gets away with.

She claims poverty but also has had lucrative tv and brand deals in the last year or so, Hellman’s, Linda Macartney, De Monte to name a few. She also had her Daily Kitchen stint (haha) and numerous tv appearances as a talking head. She has a huge house full of expensive furniture from the Cotswold Co. She buys all manner of crap and plasters it all over social media e.g the spoons she bought for over £100.

she rattles her bloody tip jar at every opportunity, I remember when covid hit and she was wow is me-ing all over twitter claiming she was going to starve and getting her followers to give her money when her followers are those who would have been hit hardest by covid, lack of work, inability to get to shops etc to feed themselves.

Somehow she has convinced people that she is a saint and is the only one providing recipes for free online. Her whole online presence is monetised to the hilt.

I can’t understand why people can’t or won’t see through her. It’s maddening and tbh damaging to her followers who talk about going without so they can donate to her instead. Any one with a shred of decency would refuse and get a bloody job.

PollyDarton1 · 03/08/2022 11:14

I think in regards to the kitten the majority of the most contentious tweets (as they always are) were deleted, especially when vet professionals got involved (quite rightly). There was talk of them engaging (and paying for, via donations as her followers were offering rather than JM specifically or overtly asking) the Supervet as they seemed to think that he would take over medical care of the kitten, with a bunch of their followers repeatedly tagging him/the clinic into tweets.

I'm almost certain at least 3 qualified professionals, plus two in person professionals, told JM that the kitten wasn't compatible with life due to the deformities and general illness. There was major issues with this at the time over on Twitter (although not to the viral sense it is now) but JM very rapidly deleted the angry and hostile tweets, as well as most of the ones that referenced the advise they had been given.

I have no doubt that the kitten was absolutely something JM felt they needed post split with Louisa and mid pandemic, much like the current puppy (not JM's son) is saving her from "killing themselves". A lot of people adopt, rescue or purchase pets to help alleviate MH in particular so from that perspective there wasn't anything notably problematic with JM bringing the kitten home. It was more the subtle tin rattle for donations (the vets bills were very expensive) and the steadfast refusal to a) take the advice of numerous professionals, b) if anyone questioned JM on why they were prolonging the kittens life (even in very gentle terms) they instantly became hostile, angry and blocked the user (even goes so far as to search out users who had liked or responded to other users and not JM directly) and c) subsequently made a monetised tribute video to the kitten. All of the above left a very bad taste in many peoples' mouths, as it would if I (or others) were to witness anyone behaving in a similar manner. The fact that it was yet another "incident" that preceded multiple "incidents" just gave further weight to my opinion.

AspireMe · 03/08/2022 11:26

ReneBumsWombats · 03/08/2022 07:22

I knew there had been some dispute over her back story but that was the first I knew about the kitten. If it's true, it's beyond appalling and will surely end her career. I don't think most people care if she hammed her past a bit to be marketable, but that's another level.

She gave it the hilarious name 'Pretzel' (because of its twisted limbs).

scottishgirl69 · 03/08/2022 11:34

She also tweeted that she had a stalker and I believe she gave out enough information on twitter to identify the person and then deleted all the tweets saying she was in a fugue state. She's also claimed to have been sent graphic threats on twitter.

The kitten wasn't just called pretzel. It was called Sophie Ellis Pretzel. I believe Sophie was the name of Louisas childhood dog

Her twitter is a bin fire but the more chaotic she is the more people seem to support her

darisdet · 03/08/2022 11:59

I think it's all a bit chaotic. I first noticed something off on Instagram, ages ago, where there was some book a couple of people hadn't received, and they asked her about it.

It must be disheartening for some of her followers that an influencer/writer/occasional TV appearances is still in poverty, so what chance do some of them have. So transparency is important, in my opinion, and if she is being dishonest about her financial situation then obviously that's not good at all.

ComtesseDeSpair · 03/08/2022 12:06

darisdet · 03/08/2022 11:59

I think it's all a bit chaotic. I first noticed something off on Instagram, ages ago, where there was some book a couple of people hadn't received, and they asked her about it.

It must be disheartening for some of her followers that an influencer/writer/occasional TV appearances is still in poverty, so what chance do some of them have. So transparency is important, in my opinion, and if she is being dishonest about her financial situation then obviously that's not good at all.

Agree that it must be disheartening; and I also think she’s taking the piss out of her supporters - many of whom will be ordinary people working ordinary jobs and just getting by - with her latest whining blog post about the horrific hardship of being in the position of having to look for a full time employed job and think about downsizing from a large house to a small flat. When working for a living and having a home which is within your means are the day to day reality for most of us.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 03/08/2022 12:42

Branleuse · 02/08/2022 20:48

Oh really. So someone only becomes autistic upon diagnosis?

The thing about her being autistic is that she's spend years peddling the story about how she was diagnosed by "an educational psychiatrist" as being autistic when she was 11 and her parents refused to let her get any kind of help. Then she suddenly wrote an article that involved her going to see a GP and the GP being like "have you ever considered that you might be autistic?" and her being shocked, because the idea had never occurred to her before.

And somewhere along the line she's also claimed to be self-diagnosed.

Honestly there must be serious mental illness at play. The toaster thing. The TV/yelling at delivery driver thing. The antique cutlery incident. The bungalow with stairs. There are just hundreds of incidents of her swearing blind that the sky is green then turning round and swearing blind the sky is purple and how dare you suggest she ever said it was green.

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