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Teachers - most disliked profession on mumsnet?

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OhReally18 · 18/07/2022 22:31

In the last few days, I've seen a lot of teacher bashing on mumsnet. Even teachers giving other teachers a hard time. Seems like it could be one of the most disliked professions on mn. Is this a true reflection of how the rest of society feels?

I've been teaching in primary for a good few years and I have never experienced bad feelings towards teaching in real life, just on here and social media occasionally. Maybe the odd envious comment about holidays but that's it.

It's by no means harder than other professions but teachers are portrayed as lazy, moany, hard done by, ungrateful, the list goes on...
Is this fair? Surely it's no different to other professions?

OP posts:
Topgub · 18/07/2022 23:58

@echt

I've seen at least 10 threads about the nhs in the few weeks I've been on mumsnet

Probably more

echt · 18/07/2022 23:59

Topgub · 18/07/2022 23:56

Schools should never have been allowed to close in the first place

They weren't allowed to close down, they were instructed.

But then you know that. Hmm

echt · 19/07/2022 00:01

Topgub · 18/07/2022 23:58

@echt

I've seen at least 10 threads about the nhs in the few weeks I've been on mumsnet

Probably more

Threads about the NHS are not threads about staff. Threads about teachers are specific.

The threads about the education system are invariably posted by teachers.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Bobbybobbins · 19/07/2022 00:02

SweetSakura · 18/07/2022 23:35

I think a fair number of working parents lost respect for the teaching profession during the pandemic .

For instance, while I carried on working full time and caring for and educating my children at home in the first lockdown, the only contact we had from school was a weekly email filled with photos of the teachers enjoying gardening /teaching their own children etc. It was astonishingly tone deaf. And yes I know "not all teachers" etc but it didn't reflect well on the profession.

In contrast the children's hobbies were all up and running delivering online classes within a couple of weeks.

I am a teacher. I was working full time and teaching my own children too. Your school was tone deaf. Not all schools were.

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:03

@echt

Of course they're about staff

My treatment in A+E

Seen that 1 10 times alone

Aibu about my gp

Its endless

Bobbybobbins · 19/07/2022 00:04

PearTree120 · 18/07/2022 23:51

I think the first lockdown (along with the teaching unions) has damaged the reputation of the profession, to be honest. I know the vitriol has always been there but that for many was I think a turning point.

I taught online full time, went into school to look after vulnerable children and looked after my own two disabled children at home. I don't know what more I could have done.

PeppaPigIsAnnoying · 19/07/2022 00:04

The only issue I have with teachers is that they seem to have to tell everybody that they're a teacher. Why? I don't care!

We sold a pushchair last year and the couple that bought it were both teachers. How do I know, because somehow they managed to tell us whilst picking up the pushchair. It wasn't in the slightest bit relevant but it had to get mentioned

I put teachers on par with vegans. How do you know somebody is one? They'll tell you

spanieleyes · 19/07/2022 00:04

We didn't close at all, we stayed open during Easter holiday and summer half term, as did the majority of schools locally.

CallMeBubbleDarling · 19/07/2022 00:05

MN is pretty much why I don’t talk about my job in real life if I can help it. I don’t generally come across teachers that talk about how stressful the job is in comparison to other jobs. We may have the odd moan ‘I’ve got so much to do this week’ etc but nothing compared to what I see on here which can often make me cringe as I know how it comes across. I love my job, and yes it can be hard work, but it’s not that bad. I wouldn’t do it if it was. I just hope most people know the voices of the few don’t always speak for the many.

Itstank · 19/07/2022 00:07

lbab1702 · 18/07/2022 23:11

Teachers should be given the highest respect, in my opinion. So much is expected of them and their salaries aren’t great and all the admin stuff they are expected to do, plus parents evenings ( dealing with parent etc). They are not just teachers, they are doing admin, welfare of kids, report writing ……….the list goes on. I work in IT, earn a good salary, and do NOT have to have all the flexibility and skills teacher need to have ( and aren’t paid for). In my opinion, teacher should be paid more then me.

But they probably are once you take the pension into account. Teachers' pension is worth £1 million to buy in the private sector.
www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1562049/pension-retirement-income-teachers-public-sector-workplace-MPs-politicians

echt · 19/07/2022 00:09

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:03

@echt

Of course they're about staff

My treatment in A+E

Seen that 1 10 times alone

Aibu about my gp

Its endless

That isn't what you said. You said threads about the NHS, which is a system. Had you said threads complaining about GPs/nurses, I'd have known what you're referring to.

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:10

@spanieleyes

To a greatly reduced number of children being given the same shit resources the kids at home were getting

Our LA made it practically impossible to get a place.

There were hardly any kids in. Most of the teachers were off.

Itstank · 19/07/2022 00:10

Good on them though as we could all swap for the pension if we wanted. Just pointing out its not really low paid!

echt · 19/07/2022 00:10

PeppaPigIsAnnoying · 19/07/2022 00:04

The only issue I have with teachers is that they seem to have to tell everybody that they're a teacher. Why? I don't care!

We sold a pushchair last year and the couple that bought it were both teachers. How do I know, because somehow they managed to tell us whilst picking up the pushchair. It wasn't in the slightest bit relevant but it had to get mentioned

I put teachers on par with vegans. How do you know somebody is one? They'll tell you

You see. There you go. The generalisation.

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:12

@echt.

Doctors and nurses work in the nhs.

I've seen countless threads complaining about treatment by staff in the nhs and lots of threads complaining about the actual organisation

So your post that its only teachers who are bashed regularly is rubbish.

Fizbosshoes · 19/07/2022 00:12

I think some people unfairly think teachers work 8.30- 3.30
I think some teachers seem unaware of the stresses and long hours of other jobs.
Most teachers I know in RL seem quite happy with their jobs, have time for hobbies, weekends away, going out for drinks in the evening (nor every day of course) and don't seem any more stressed than anyone else.
Most teachers on MN are burnt out, on the verge of leaving, work 700 hours a week and only have time to go to the loo once a week.

Landlords or holiday let owners are also very unpopular!!

spanieleyes · 19/07/2022 00:15

@Topgub

But that wasn't the teachers choice! We were told the number of children we could have in, depending on the size of the classroom and the work ( or lack of it) we could provide. This wasn't down to individual teachers, or indeed even Heads, it was on the instructions of the local authority.

echt · 19/07/2022 00:15

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:12

@echt.

Doctors and nurses work in the nhs.

I've seen countless threads complaining about treatment by staff in the nhs and lots of threads complaining about the actual organisation

So your post that its only teachers who are bashed regularly is rubbish.

Please read my post.

Carmene · 19/07/2022 00:16

I don't dislike teachers. But - many, many teachers on here will not be shaken from the belief that they have the hardest job in the world. And they don't.

It might be quite hard, sometimes very hard, but it's NOT the hardest, most stressful etc. etc. job in the world. But they will relentlessly try to convince that it is, and that you must 'hate' teachers if you don't fall in line with that opinion. So yep, that's annoying.

In real life, I'm surrounded by them. Friends and family, loads of teachers. One friend is really positive about her job and her work. She works really hard and is rewarded by it in lots of ways. The others? They never stop moaning. It's a constant monologue of why the head is shit, why the kids aren't doing whatever they should be, how hard done to they are etc.

I know this post will attract teachers now explaining WHY their job IS the hardest in the world, and I still won't believe them. That is apparently 'putting teachers down.' It's not. It's just that I know that some people have harder, more stressful jobs that teachers. It doesn't make teaching less hard. Both things can exist at the same time.

And yep, in this heatwave, classrooms are hotter than furnaces and no one else will ever be hotter than teachers because teachers teachers teachers.

I spend too much time around teachers.

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:16

@spanieleyes

I didnt say it was their choice but the denial it happened and the insistence that every teacher continued to work exactly as before is galling at best

echt · 19/07/2022 00:17

So your post that its only teachers who are bashed regularly is rubbish

I never said this. My point was far more nuanced. Do read it.

Topgub · 19/07/2022 00:19

@echt

I did

'It's not that GPs, GPs' receptionists, nurses, etc. don't get a hammering.

They just don't get several threads a year about how shit they are. Year on year on year'

I've seen several threads about how shit nhs staff are this week

scorpiogirly · 19/07/2022 00:19

sst1234 · 18/07/2022 22:48

Re doctor receptionists, so many people can’t be wrong.

Some of the receptionists at my doctors surgery are so rude, which is why I don't like them.

echt · 19/07/2022 00:21

I didnt say it was their choice but the denial it happened and the insistence that every teacher continued to work exactly as before is galling at best

Denying what? All schools were required to have designated pupils on -site, so no, they never closed.

No-one has ever said that all teachers worked exactly as before. How could they? Conditions for individual staff would differ. Teaching online is different.

Sherrystrull · 19/07/2022 00:21

Carmene · 19/07/2022 00:16

I don't dislike teachers. But - many, many teachers on here will not be shaken from the belief that they have the hardest job in the world. And they don't.

It might be quite hard, sometimes very hard, but it's NOT the hardest, most stressful etc. etc. job in the world. But they will relentlessly try to convince that it is, and that you must 'hate' teachers if you don't fall in line with that opinion. So yep, that's annoying.

In real life, I'm surrounded by them. Friends and family, loads of teachers. One friend is really positive about her job and her work. She works really hard and is rewarded by it in lots of ways. The others? They never stop moaning. It's a constant monologue of why the head is shit, why the kids aren't doing whatever they should be, how hard done to they are etc.

I know this post will attract teachers now explaining WHY their job IS the hardest in the world, and I still won't believe them. That is apparently 'putting teachers down.' It's not. It's just that I know that some people have harder, more stressful jobs that teachers. It doesn't make teaching less hard. Both things can exist at the same time.

And yep, in this heatwave, classrooms are hotter than furnaces and no one else will ever be hotter than teachers because teachers teachers teachers.

I spend too much time around teachers.

Who made you the decider of who has the most or least stressful job?

Oh the arrogance in your post.

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