Teachers - most disliked profession on mumsnet?

[OhReally18]

In the last few days, I've seen a lot of teacher bashing on mumsnet. Even teachers giving other teachers a hard time. Seems like it could be one of the most disliked professions on mn. Is this a true reflection of how the rest of society feels?

I've been teaching in primary for a good few years and I have never experienced bad feelings towards teaching in real life, just on here and social media occasionally. Maybe the odd envious comment about holidays but that's it.

It's by no means harder than other professions but teachers are portrayed as lazy, moany, hard done by, ungrateful, the list goes on...
Is this fair? Surely it's no different to other professions?

Nobody actually says any of that though. It's in your head. And proves the OP's point.

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cumbrialass

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OK. Here you go, here's another reality for you :

£5 million pound quote due. Info received from finance the day before it's due. 100 page document to review. If there's an extra zero anywhere it's my fault.

Yes I get teaching is stressful etc, but you're not the only one's under pressure.

That's I tersstjg. @MsFrenchie because my management have never been disappointed in me. It's not heat to personally insult someone with a lie using a quote from another thread. I'll be reporting that.

Any normal person would have a moment of self-reflection if they noticed how unhappy people were with the service that they were providing. For some reason though in your opinion everyone else is wrong, you are above criticism, and it’s all so unfair.

No. I think this thread proves what I’m about to say. You will have a vocal minority. It’s the same posters which rock up every time, posting dozens of anti teacher posts repeatedly. Often misquoting other posters. It’s a bit weird to be honest as teachers don’t actually have time to read it as they are erm…teaching. It’s an echo chamber.

The vast majority of our parents are lovely but just one or two aren't. Just like teachers, I suppose!

I don't think so but I do sometimes think people (ie the government) use sites like this to stir up anti-teacher sentiment in the same way that they use the media.

I work in education going into a few schools over the course of a week and I haven't heard anyone even considering not working in the heat. The only discussion I've heard relating to it is male teachers discussing whether they can wear shorts and still look professional. Yet there are a few threads on here of teachers considering calling in sick. Likewise during covid I don't know anyone who wanted the schools closed. There were too many vulnerable children who we worried about yet according to the press and threads on here, teachers were calling out for it.

Teachers should be given the highest respect, in my opinion. So much is expected of them and their salaries aren’t great and all the admin stuff they are expected to do, plus parents evenings ( dealing with parent etc). They are not just teachers, they are doing admin, welfare of kids, report writing ……….the list goes on. I work in IT, earn a good salary, and do NOT have to have all the flexibility and skills teacher need to have ( and aren’t paid for). In my opinion, teacher should be paid more then me.

For god’s sake, that quote was a response from you to criticism. You were so incensed at the criticism that you resigned your position.

This is exactly the sort of thing that this thread is about, the outright refusal to accept when you have fallen short.

And what insult?

Near the top has to be the ridiculous claim that they work harder than other jobs.
And again with the lying @MsFrenchie Teachers don't say this. Other people say they are lazy. Liars like you, for example, and teachers say no, we aren't, we actually work very hard. That's all.

@mackthepony

Of course other jobs are stressful, who has said otherwise? But that doesn't mean teaching isn't!

This is true. The really annoying teachers seem to congregate on MN, or maybe the sensible ones don't admit they're teachers because they don't want to be lumped in with their embarrassing colleagues.

@Arenanewbie To be honest, I was under the impression that mumsnet was less of a parenting forum now so I'm not sure if it is always parents giving teachers a hard time on here.
My children are only at pre school so I am yet to experience being a school parent myself.

That's two separate things. Did they perhaps say they weren't in holiday in the pandemic but worked every day? Because I'm fed up of hearing that we sat at home on holiday for the whole thing.

It's certainly not harder than other jobs but it can be as described above. Just crazy basically.

But it is part of the job you signed up for, every job has unique characteristics and yet there isn't a cohort of posters who will inevitably post 'pity me' type OP's after a couple of threads complaining about the local council/doctors/shop assistant/you name it.

MN is in a unique position where someone like the OP can genuinly think they are targetted and to highlight the lack of critical thinking it usually decends into reply's that are just anti current gov.

Most of the forums I frequent that are populated by mid level teachers would make MN blush and would really bring on the level of resentment that the OP is wanting to prove her point whilst not acknowledging what is being said.

It's part of the job, it isn't unique, and the 'pity me' type posts that always end up on mn highlights why critism is needed

Teachers don't say this.

You do realise we can all read and have seen MN teachers say this time and time again?

It seems to be the only profession on MN where there is always talk about how they don’t get paid enough, work for free, work 50 hrs a week, don’t get paid for holidays, work more than 39 weeks a year etc.

There is a recruitment issue in teaching, just the same as in planning, accountancy, env health officers and solicitor in the public sector. People just don’t want to work in the public sector not just teaching.

For god’s sake, that quote was a response from you to criticism. You were so incensed at the criticism that you resigned your position.
No @MsFrenchie that isn't what happened or what I said. I think you need to work on your comprehension or people skills or something.

I know several teachers and come from a family of teachers and they are all extremely hard working and take a pride in their job and I’ve never heard them have the negative, moany, hardest job in the world attitude that some posters on here have.

Literally never seen this. I've seen it thrown at teachers as an assumption they feel this way.

I would say we’re definitely slated on mumsnet at every opportunity but I feel like people on mumsnet tear apart people on every post I read, it’s just a horribly harsh place to be. There’s lots of nice people on here too but I think there’s obviously people on here with too much time on their hands who get some sort of joy out of just being really horrible about everything/everyone 🤔

Although I have experienced a few parents like this in real life at school, often those who don’t work and their entire life’s purpose is just to analyse what you’re doing wrong as a teacher when you’re literally bending over backwards and paying for the majority of their child’s education out of your own pocket 🤦🏼‍♀️I’m returning from mat leave this year but treating it the same as I would with my previous jobs this time. I’ve gone part time and I’ll do my best while I’m there but I’m not putting my hand in my own pocket when I now have a child of my own to buy things for. I won’t be doing all the extra hours just for the sake of it and things will be planned and marked within the time I have available rather than just continually allowing it to eat into my evening or weekend. I’m not even physically back yet but have had my job share contact me on 5 days of the summer holidays so far to ask when I’m coming in to set up the class. I’ve wasted every summer in there and now I have a little person to spend it with so I won’t be going in, the walls will have displays put up on them when I get a chance after school on days I’m actually paid to be there. I think that’s the job people presume teachers do when actually most do all the extra stuff just to make themselves look like they’re doing their job to a satisfactory level, it’s impossible to ever do enough.

@cardibach

No.

They said they gave up their holidays to look after kids while their parents sat at home and they never got a day off in the pandemic (except every weekend, natch)

Lots of teachers did sit at home further whole thing while parents were guilt tripped into not sending their kids in.

You might not have but lots did. especially in the first lockdown.

I cant help the way some teachers come across and the impression they give.

Telling people they're making stuff up really isn't helping you.

Teachers are like any other profession, 10% of them are fantastic, 80% of them are ok, 10% of them are terrible and give the other 90% a bad name.

Mumsnet is a site for mums so teachers will have a presence in just about every members life, unlike just about any other profession.

I have to ask, after you failed at teaching, what career did you find where being so angry and precious worked better for you?
You are really unpleasant aren't you @MsFrenchi? I didn't fail at teaching, thanks. I was very successful for 33 years and resigned permanent posts to do supply, in which I've also been successful with many re bookings, because the system in education is hostile these days and makes a contract unpleasant.
How many years have you been very successful in one profession with your aggression and lies?