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Ukraine Invasion: Part 29
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MagicFox · 18/07/2022 08:11

Welcome all, part 29

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minsmum · 18/07/2022 10:08

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SEJ1789 · 18/07/2022 10:39

Thanks for the new thread. I’m a lurker but really appreciate those who post regularly

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LoveLarry · 18/07/2022 10:42

Thank you. Checking in

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/07/2022 11:16

Thank you. Checking in.

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cloudberry · 18/07/2022 11:25

Thank you @MagicFox for the new thread and all of you who contribute…..

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Fladdermus · 18/07/2022 11:25

pmk

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blueshoes · 18/07/2022 11:34

@MagicFox thank you for the new thread and for all contributors and lurkers.

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minsmum · 18/07/2022 14:30

mobile.twitter.com/myroslavapetsa/status/1548983222444384256 started as a sad story about a Russian soldier killed in Ukraine.

thank you@MagicFox

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dibly · 18/07/2022 15:21

Thanks for the new thread, still lurking.

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MissConductUS · 18/07/2022 18:02

Checking in, and I also wanted to say thanks. It's been really interesting and informative for me to hear views about the war from outside the US.

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blueshoes · 18/07/2022 18:20

minsmum · 18/07/2022 10:08

Strangely catchy ...

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blueshoes · 18/07/2022 18:22

minsmum · 18/07/2022 14:30

mobile.twitter.com/myroslavapetsa/status/1548983222444384256 started as a sad story about a Russian soldier killed in Ukraine.

thank you@MagicFox

Russian soldier died for a looted Ukrainian fridge for his family. So sad but at least it was not all in vain.

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blueshoes · 18/07/2022 18:38

@Ijsbear

Copying your takeaways for the benefit of the new thread

fucking hell

⚡️Swiss Info: Switzerland refused NATO's request to help wounded Ukrainians as the country wants to maintain its neutral status.

⚡️ Ukraine has completed the ratification of the Istanbul Convention, depositing the relevant documents with the Council of Europe
The document will enter into force on November 1, 2022.

📌 The Russian invaders deported 2 million residents of the temporarily
occupied territories of Ukraine to the Russian Federation, including several hundred thousand children.|

⚡️Bloomberg: Putin says sanctions cause ‘colossal’ problems in Russian tech industry.
Russian dictator Vladimir Putin told officials during a video conference on strategic development goals that Russia is facing "colossal problems" in the high-tech sector due to international sanctions, but that Russia will not allow its economy to fall back decades and will look for solutions by relying on domestic resources, Bloomberg reports.

⚡️Media: Putin to visit Iran on July 19.

⚡️Reuters: Gazprom declares force majeure on some gas supplies to Europe.

⚡️Russia fines Google $382 million for not removing content banned in Russia.
A Moscow court imposed a fine of 21.77 billion rubles ($382 million) on Google for repeated failure to remove “information prohibited in Russia” from YouTube.

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MagicFox · 18/07/2022 18:42

Ah yes, Russia and Iran are cosying up at a time when tensions between the US and Iran are at crisis point. Another front to worry about

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2022 18:48

Thank you for this new thread, MagicFox.

@Ijsbear · Today 17:39

(Re: Switzerland not accepting Ukrainian wounded for fear of including soldiers and them being deemed un-neutral.

^All over I think. Poland, Estonia, etc.*

But not Switzerland. Is is wrong to hope that one day they get invaded and no one lifts a finger.

Medicine is always neutral I thought in that saint and sinner alike should be treated.

Here is the relevant part of The Declaration of Geneva doctors’ oath:

I WILL NOT PERMIT considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;

www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-declaration-of-geneva/

I couldn’t help a few thoughts along the lines you mention.

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2022 18:51

@MissConductUS nductUS · Today 18:02
Checking in, and I also wanted to say thanks. It's been really interesting and informative for me to hear views about the war from outside the US.

The feeling from the U.K. is reciprocal regarding your informed posts MissConductUS.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 18/07/2022 18:55

Thank you

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Ijsbear · 18/07/2022 19:04

ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2022 18:51

@MissConductUS nductUS · Today 18:02
Checking in, and I also wanted to say thanks. It's been really interesting and informative for me to hear views about the war from outside the US.

The feeling from the U.K. is reciprocal regarding your informed posts MissConductUS.

Yes, very much so @MissConductUS

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Ijsbear · 18/07/2022 19:08

Did someone post this upthread already? sorry if so!

The Benefits of Having A Son in Ukraine, on a Russian news report.

twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1548992984946974720

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TiddyTidTwo · 18/07/2022 19:10

I'm still here! Need to catch up. Thanks all

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DuncinToffee · 18/07/2022 19:18

Still reading, occasionally posting 🌻

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PerkingFaintly · 18/07/2022 19:36

Brew for all.

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blueshoes · 18/07/2022 20:09

Switzerland, shame on you. Utter disgrace to put politics above humanitarian and medical relief to Ukraine. You are far from 'neutral'.

Switzerland is a strange one. Lots of conflicts of interests and links with Russia elites which potentially weaken their resolve against Russia.

www.wsj.com/articles/switzerland-playground-of-russian-oligarchs-emerges-as-weak-link-on-sanctions-putin-ukraine-war-11657624783?mod=series_rusukrainenato

"Switzerland, Playground of Russian Oligarchs, Emerges as Sanctions Weak Link
Ownership shuffles and tradition of secrecy thwart efforts by Alpine financial haven to punish billionaire allies of Vladimir Putin
July 12, 2022

ZUG, Switzerland … The streets are clustered with the offices of companies founded by Russia’s wealthiest men, along with the headquarters for landmark natural-gas pipelines Nord Stream 1 and 2 and the energy-trading department of Gazprom PJSC.

So many Russian billionaires have homes or businesses here that the local opposition party had begun taking sightseers on an Oligarch’s Tour. Swiss newspapers nicknamed Zug “Little Moscow” and joked that local leaders wanted to build a Kremlin wall around the town.

Zug’s slow start is emblematic of the country as a whole. Switzerland has pledged to punish Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. So far, that promise hasn’t triggered much action against Russian companies doing business there, bolstering concerns in world capitals that the Alpine financial hub isn’t doing enough to forestall the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin’s allies.

Eighty percent of Russia’s commodities are traded through Switzerland, mostly through Zug and the lakeside city of Geneva. Swiss banks manage an estimated $150 billion for Russian clients, according to the country’s banking association. Thirty-two of the oligarchs closest to Mr. Putin have property, bank accounts or businesses in Switzerland, according to Zurich-based transparency group Public Eye.

Despite Switzerland’s status as a global financial hub, the country’s regulators are hamstrung by limited resources—SECO had just 10 officials fully dedicated to sanctions until recently, when the government hired five more. Their work is also frustrated by an old structural problem: The business of registering companies remains a hive of secrecy, making it difficult to identify ultimate ownership of assets, according to Western diplomats.

Swiss bankers and transparency campaigners say billions of dollars of Russian clients’ assets have been transferred to the names of spouses and children in recent years—a phenomenon that accelerated in the run-up to the war, they say.
The Putin regime’s presence in Zug can be traced to the early days of his presidency, and a ceremony in the canton’s sprawling art nouveau palace, Theatre Casino.

While Russia’s military was bombing the restive republic of Chechnya, Mr. Putin was awarded the 2002 “Zug Peace Prize” by the Nuclear Disarmament Forum, an organization of influential local businessmen that has since disbanded. The meeting, attended by business and political leaders close to the Kremlin and serenaded by the Russian National Orchestra, heralded the flourishing of Russian commodity trading in the town, according to local politicians.

Many oligarchs have businesses in Zug that remain untouched by sanctions. They include Mr. Abramovich, the largest shareholder of Evraz PLC, a Russian steelmaker and mining company that has a trading arm in the canton. Evraz was sanctioned in the U.K., where it traded on the London Stock Exchange, but hasn’t been sanctioned in Switzerland or the EU, even though Mr. Abramovich has.

Not far from Zug, in Winterthur, is the headquarters of Sulzer AG , an engineering company that is 48.8%-owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who is sanctioned by the U.S. and the U.K. When Poland sanctioned Sulzer’s operations, the Swiss embassy in Warsaw unsuccessfully lobbied the Polish government to reverse the move, according to a Polish government official and the Swiss department of foreign affairs."

Wasn't Putin's gymnast mistress Alina Kabaeva rumoured to be holed up in Switzerland when the invasion first started.

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blueshoes · 18/07/2022 20:12

MissConductUS · 18/07/2022 18:02

Checking in, and I also wanted to say thanks. It's been really interesting and informative for me to hear views about the war from outside the US.

@MissConductUS, like-wise, particularly your HIMAR-lerve pick-me-ups.

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Hillsmakeyoustrong · 18/07/2022 20:50

Those who are not for Ukraine are against Ukraine.

I'm looking at you Switzerland.

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