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If you're in a "RED ZONE" are you considering keeping your dc off school?

217 replies

SnBLurker · 15/07/2022 13:36

Hi,

Just that really. Our area is likely going to be in the high 30's, possibly 40 on Monday/Tuesday and I'm not sure what to do.

What are your thoughts?

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SpindleInTheWind · 16/07/2022 11:36

More alerts and alarms coming through by the day, especially around travel. I really don't remember anything like it, and I'm fecking ancient.

LadyApplejack · 16/07/2022 11:39

No, they'll be going in. It won't be cooler at home and I'm working anyway. School is letting them go in PE kits which I think is very sensible.

wonkylegs · 16/07/2022 11:45

My kids, secondary and primary wear polo shirts in summer, primary can wear shorts.
The youngest also has a hat
Both schools have issued statements about how they will deal with it and have cancelled some activities and are going to utilise school grounds.
I'm sending secondary aged one in with a bottle of frozen water.
I think they will be fine and for some kids school may well be a better place to be than home.

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RockandRollsuicide · 16/07/2022 12:00

Spindle what around travel?

ThreeRingCircus · 16/07/2022 14:04

I'm sending DD in as long as they're open. At the moment they've said they'll be keeping the children inside with plenty of water and they are allowed to wear PE kit.

School is a 10 minute walk away so I think DD will be fine.

SpindleInTheWind · 16/07/2022 14:25

RockandRollsuicide · 16/07/2022 12:00

Spindle what around travel?

Hi, Rock - it's for the red zone between London and Manchester, on Monday and Tuesday. More details to follow from this afternoon's Cobra meeting.

Guardian already reporting:

Transport for London (TfL) is advising passengers to travel only for essential journeys.

The firm’s chief operating officer, Andy Lord, said: “If customers do need to travel, they should check before they travel, as we are expecting there to be some impact to tube and rail services as a result of temporary speed restrictions we will need to introduce to keep everyone safe.”

Very hot temperatures can affect rails, overhead power lines and signalling equipment, and TfL says it would work to keep as many services running as possible using “enhanced” inspections to mitigate the impact of the extreme weather.

Track temperature checks would be carried out regularly across the tube and rail networks to ensure they remained safe and that the track was not at risk of bending or buckling, TfL said in a statement.

It added it was also inspecting the air conditioning units on the trains that cover 40% of the tube network, the trains on the Elizabeth Line and London Overground, as well as the air cooling units on double-deck buses to ensure they were functioning well.

Transport for Greater Manchester has also urged its passengers to travel only if necessary.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/16/londoners-urged-not-to-travel-on-monday-and-tuesday-because-of-high-temperatures

mum2jakie · 16/07/2022 14:27

Both schools allowing PE kit next week. I think they'd be safer at school!

SpindleInTheWind · 16/07/2022 14:31

A lot of it's about (a) how they get there - i.e. if they have to travel by train or bus, or have a short walk - and (b) what they'll be expected to do and wear when they get there.

Mixed bag, by the posts on the thread.

VerifiedBot2351 · 16/07/2022 14:34

It’s business as usual at the school I work in. That means normal business dress for staff and usual uniform for pupils. The usual rules about having to have jumpers will, annoyingly, still apply. As will the rules about not going to the loo in lesson time, so pupils won’t be drinking a lot of water. I have a classroom with windows that don’t open and I am not looking forward to it.

Remaker · 16/07/2022 14:42

Not from the UK so I have to say the people talking about ‘temps over 30’ are making me laugh. If we kept kids off school when the temperature was over 30 they would miss a A LOT of school. And nope our schools aren’t all air conditioned either.

If you’re in an area that is going to get to 40 then your school should have plans in place. If you’re talking about temps of 30-ish then it’s ridiculous to kerp them off school. Use sun cream and send 2 x drink bottles.

StEthelburgaRose · 16/07/2022 14:48

We get 30 degree temps sometimes and people don't keep their kids off school. It's upper 30s that are unusual for us. It can be humid here too and without the Mistral breeze some areas of europe get

VerifiedBot2351 · 16/07/2022 14:48

@Remaker what are your secondary school uniforms like, just out of interest?

BreezingIn · 16/07/2022 15:38

Remaker · 16/07/2022 14:42

Not from the UK so I have to say the people talking about ‘temps over 30’ are making me laugh. If we kept kids off school when the temperature was over 30 they would miss a A LOT of school. And nope our schools aren’t all air conditioned either.

If you’re in an area that is going to get to 40 then your school should have plans in place. If you’re talking about temps of 30-ish then it’s ridiculous to kerp them off school. Use sun cream and send 2 x drink bottles.

If you’re not in the U.K., you don’t really have to spend any time faux laughing over this. 🙄

Lots of the U.K. are predicted up to 40, not just over 30, if you googled before commenting, you would know that. We have had temperatures of 30/32 before and although hot, people deal with it and don’t mention keeping kids off school.

And whilst you can say school ‘should’ have plans for temperatures getting up near 40, their plans for our school are to say no ties or blazers and to advise suncream. That’s it. Sports day, PE, cooking are still happening. Oh, and blazers still have to be in their bags at some schools.

Many of our schools are very poorly maintained, windows don’t open (if there happened to be a breeze) and many rooms at my child’s school don’t even have a fan. Some classrooms are extremely small and cramped, barely fitting 30 children in which adds to the heat.

Uniforms are cheap, hot material here, very different to those in countries that regularly get hotter temperatures. Some head teachers still insist on blazers unless it goes over 30. Some teachers still don’t let children have access to water in lessons.

And also, many of the parents I know that are concerned, have children with SEN or other health issues or they are actually more concerned about the travelling to/from school rather than the school day itself. The tube isn’t fun in 32 degrees, I dread to think at 40.

So hold your faux laughs in and let people here in the U.K. decide what is best for their children. The fact that we don’t get this often means that we can choose to not send our children, because missing a couple of days really won’t make any difference to their education. If the U.K. had these temperature more often, there would be actual real plans in place, at the moment for secondary schools especially, the plan is ‘just deal with it’, because it’s a nuisance to change any lessons, clothing, etc and attendance matters because of Ofsteds ridiculous demands.

GorgeousLadyofWrestling · 16/07/2022 15:40

TfL give that warning about the tracks buckling every summer. There’s nothing new about that, especially if you live in south London and are used to the chaos of Southern and Southeastern trains. It’s always cold temps/ ice in winter, leaves in autumn and hot temps in summer - they have a hard time coping with any kind of weather, it seems 😳

RoundaboutRacer · 18/07/2022 10:16

@Remaker "If you’re in an area that is going to get to 40 then your school should have plans in place."

There are lots of areas that are going to get to near 40 today.

Schools don't have plans in place.

That's why people are considering keeping their kids off.

Read the fucking thread before commenting. Confused

RoundaboutRacer · 18/07/2022 10:17

DCs primary is open today.

I've sent them in with the coolest summer uniform they have. Lots of sunscreen, frozen water bottles, hats, fans and cooling towels.

Pool ready for the second they get home.

Keeping phone near me incase they say we can collect early.

Bigmouthshouthotair · 18/07/2022 10:22

Remaker · 16/07/2022 14:42

Not from the UK so I have to say the people talking about ‘temps over 30’ are making me laugh. If we kept kids off school when the temperature was over 30 they would miss a A LOT of school. And nope our schools aren’t all air conditioned either.

If you’re in an area that is going to get to 40 then your school should have plans in place. If you’re talking about temps of 30-ish then it’s ridiculous to kerp them off school. Use sun cream and send 2 x drink bottles.

Have you ever lived in the UK?

DH and I have lived in many hot countries where temperature were often higher than you are talking.

At times it was hard but we managed.

We are both struggling with this heat.

Maybe stop sneering from afar and commenting on something you have no knowledge of.

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