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If you're in a "RED ZONE" are you considering keeping your dc off school?

217 replies

SnBLurker · 15/07/2022 13:36

Hi,

Just that really. Our area is likely going to be in the high 30's, possibly 40 on Monday/Tuesday and I'm not sure what to do.

What are your thoughts?

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Xtraincome · 15/07/2022 18:11

We live across the road from school so I will send my DD7 in. DD4 will stay in with me all day, although we do like a little drive so might have an early morning one. If Monday is awful and Tuesday predicted the same then I won't send her in on Tuesday IYSWIM.

The school are doing well and keeping us informed on changes as more news comes to light. Sports Day cancelled which is good.

SockFluffInTheBath · 15/07/2022 18:11

Silverswirl · 15/07/2022 17:41

So the kids who don’t have family help just have to boil in school then? Or the schools shut and I lose 2 days wages and we don’t have enough food for the following week.
Seems sensible.

What would you like the solution to be?

MappyDappy · 15/07/2022 18:13

I'm keeping mine off. My youngest is very prone to heat related illness when it goes above 25 degrees never mind 35, and my eldest has a one mile walk each way to her school. There is no way I'm risking their health, when it's end of term and they won't be doing any real work anyway.

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SockFluffInTheBath · 15/07/2022 18:13

WhiteCatmas · 15/07/2022 18:10

Maybe this is a sign that the English term dates need to change? I don’t understand why the children are still in school in July when schools elsewhere in the UK broke up weeks ago.

Possibly, but when the Scottish schools go back in August it’s frequently hot in England. Though heatwaves do tend to happen this time of year (just before our schools break up).

Teatotally · 15/07/2022 18:14

My daughter's D of E expedition was finally cancelled at 3.30 today due to the red weather warning and predicted temperatures of 39. They were planning to go ahead yesterday with modifications as the temperature even though there was an Amber warning and temperatures were expected to be 35 degrees! Ridiculous. I was going to pull my daughter out as we were given the option to individually do this but lots of peer pressure as many of the team wanted to do it and she didn't want to be the odd one out. School is now closed as well for online learning. Agree with a pp about us not taking hot warnings as seriously as other warnings.

WiddlinDiddlin · 15/07/2022 18:18

Why is everyone baffled about how brits don't cope with the heat though?

1/ We are not acclimated to it, our bodies have to work much harder in temps we're not used to, to function, to stay warm or cool down.

2/ Heat isn't the only factor, hot weather in the UK is usually accompanied by high humidity - humidity is currently around 60% in my area, going outside from an air con area currently feels like someones dumped a heavy sopping wet duvet on you. It makes sweating ineffective at cooling you down, and humidity plus heat plus no air movement is incredibly energy sapping.

3/ Routinely hot places typically have air con in homes and work places - we do not. It is mainly businesses that have air con and even then, only bigger companies. This means there is NO respite, we're too hot 24 hours without a break, we can't sleep, on top of the fatigue that the unaccustomed heat and humidity causes.

4/ Our buildings, our homes, workplaces and schools are NOT built to keep out heat, they're built to keep IN warmth and often, to let in as much light as possible. This makes them very very bad at keeping out heat!

That is why we bitch and moan, that is why we panic and that is why we take off all our clothes!

3WildOnes · 15/07/2022 18:20

saleorbouy · 15/07/2022 17:29

If you keep them off school and at home will the temperature be any less? What's the point of keeping them at home and not being able to go work the ambient temperature outside will remain the same.

For me the point would be so that they don't have to walk for half an hour in 40 degree heat and so I don't have to take my little one out for an hour round trip in the 40 degree heat.
At home I can put up the paddling pool in the shade and we can spend the day eating ice creams and cold drinks.

knittingaddict · 15/07/2022 18:27

DyingForACuppa · 15/07/2022 13:59

I am from a much hotter country and I find the UK attitude of 'the sun is very hot so let's strip off and expose as much of our skin as possible to the dangerously hot rays' baffling!

So many parents here think protecting your kids from the sun is somehow cruel, and you 'must' wear non-covering clothes in summer instead of cool loose and covering clothes.

School uniform in most cases I've seen is not going to be great in a heatwave, but I've seen parent choices that are worse so I sympathize with the schools position!

I doubt the children are going to spend much, if any, time outside in the hot sun. They will need cool clothes for inside or maybe in the shade.

ApplesandBunions · 15/07/2022 18:27

WiddlinDiddlin · 15/07/2022 18:18

Why is everyone baffled about how brits don't cope with the heat though?

1/ We are not acclimated to it, our bodies have to work much harder in temps we're not used to, to function, to stay warm or cool down.

2/ Heat isn't the only factor, hot weather in the UK is usually accompanied by high humidity - humidity is currently around 60% in my area, going outside from an air con area currently feels like someones dumped a heavy sopping wet duvet on you. It makes sweating ineffective at cooling you down, and humidity plus heat plus no air movement is incredibly energy sapping.

3/ Routinely hot places typically have air con in homes and work places - we do not. It is mainly businesses that have air con and even then, only bigger companies. This means there is NO respite, we're too hot 24 hours without a break, we can't sleep, on top of the fatigue that the unaccustomed heat and humidity causes.

4/ Our buildings, our homes, workplaces and schools are NOT built to keep out heat, they're built to keep IN warmth and often, to let in as much light as possible. This makes them very very bad at keeping out heat!

That is why we bitch and moan, that is why we panic and that is why we take off all our clothes!

Yeah, it is pretty daft. No doubt in desert cities, the sort of rain that people in the UK barely even bother about would cause all kinds of consternation too, but nobody would be surprised at that.

YingMei · 15/07/2022 18:30

No my DC school have emailed out a plan for the hot weather. They encouraged all parents to put lots of sun cream on the children, make sure they have a hat and a water bottle. They said they won't do PE outside and blinds will be down. If I kept them at home it would still be hot, so they might as well go to school. I say this from the perspective of spending 8 of the last 9 years in a very hot country - the children always went out to play as long as they had a hat.
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ApplesandBunions · 15/07/2022 18:30

Silverswirl · 15/07/2022 17:41

So the kids who don’t have family help just have to boil in school then? Or the schools shut and I lose 2 days wages and we don’t have enough food for the following week.
Seems sensible.

As a pp asked, why are you reacting like this is my fault? I don't control the weather or the economy. They'd both look a sight fucking different if I did.

RhubarbStrawberry · 15/07/2022 18:32

ApplesandBunions · 15/07/2022 18:30

As a pp asked, why are you reacting like this is my fault? I don't control the weather or the economy. They'd both look a sight fucking different if I did.

What do you want to happen SilverSwirl?

Marmite17 · 15/07/2022 18:40

From bitter recent personal experience, be especially careful if you have melasma. A dull smudge for me turned into a very noticeable brown stripe. Plus strongest UVA and B filter possible if in a car with the windows open.

NeedAHoliday2021 · 15/07/2022 18:59

No, I’ll send them with sun cream, hats and water then I’ll go to work in the hospital. They’ll then get in from school and jump in the paddling pool then eat ice cream. Like they would of on holiday somewhere hot.

OhmygodDont · 15/07/2022 19:04

saleorbouy · 15/07/2022 17:29

If you keep them off school and at home will the temperature be any less? What's the point of keeping them at home and not being able to go work the ambient temperature outside will remain the same.

Mine would be due to the public transport being an hour each way and the fact it’s often over crowed and late. Also the windows don’t open at the school there is no air con and they are only allowed to remove tie and blazer. However this will be decided on the day if we decide to let him stay home.

my house however gets an amazing though breeze if there is one, we have a pool set up, sun shades and trees and bushes at the very bottom of the garden making it much cooler than inside his school or even in the house. Free access to chilled water, ice maker, shower and lack of having to wear formal clothes. His also an fainter and known nose bleeder in high temps. No we don’t holiday abroad.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 15/07/2022 19:10

I wasn't - but we were at a funeral on Tuesday in London and my son collapsed in the heat and barfed everywhere. At that point we'd been in the church for an hour, in the air conditioned car for about 20 minutes and about 20 minutes in a shady cemetery. It was stiflingly hot. If that hadn't happened I would be sending him in no doubt (although probably driving him there and back - normally he walks with dad).

We are apparently not going to be in the red zone so I'll be making a decision on the day.

SunflowerSmith · 15/07/2022 19:12

I'm probably keeping mine at home, yes it'll be hot here but not as hot as being in a room with 30 others.

I've already filled the paddling pool so they can be in and out of that or lie around naked if they wish, it'll be much more comfortable for them than being at school doing crafts or watching films as they always do on the last few days of summer term.

Pikafuckingwho · 15/07/2022 19:24

The teacher has reassured me that he understands my concerns and he is taking it seriously.

Fucking cancel it then!!

BlackeyedSusan · 15/07/2022 20:11

Pikafuckingwho · 15/07/2022 15:48

My daughter has to do her d of e hike!!

she has been told if she pulls out she is letting the team down as no one to replace her. It’s ridiculous.

Fucking hell. Have they learned nothing from those soldiers dying while training?

Let her pull out. Better that than get really ill.

ReneBumsWombats · 15/07/2022 20:47

Pikafuckingwho · 15/07/2022 19:24

The teacher has reassured me that he understands my concerns and he is taking it seriously.

Fucking cancel it then!!

Don't let her go. That's monumentally irresponsible and completely against the spirit of DoE. It's not supposed to be an endurance test against a red warning heatwave.

Lilbunnyfufu · 15/07/2022 20:55

Our school will be opening Monday morning and said the will access through the day and close early if they need too.
DS only goes in for afternoons so by then school may be closed already.
Tuesday they say they are closing at 12.30 so DS won't be going in

FrippEnos · 16/07/2022 11:03

Pikafuckingwho · 15/07/2022 19:24

The teacher has reassured me that he understands my concerns and he is taking it seriously.

Fucking cancel it then!!

Alternatively, take responsibility and don't let your child go.

onmywayamarillo · 16/07/2022 11:11

I'm keeping my son home I think a lot of parents are if the can

I'm sure the teachers would appreciate less kids in school?

ReneBumsWombats · 16/07/2022 11:12

The DoE office has issued a warning. They can't stop people from doing it but it's clear what they're implying.

www.dofe.org/thelatest/red-warning-issued/

FrownedUpon · 16/07/2022 11:15

Mine are going in. I don’t see the need to keep them at home. I can’t keep them any cooler here.