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Kate and Pippa Middleton

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hellosally · 10/07/2022 07:42

I'm reading about Pippa's new £15 million home and another pregnancy. I am sure both sisters are lovely people but looking at their lives, it seems like neither ever had any intention of working and used school and university to get themselves mixing in affluent circles to bag a wealthy man to fund their lifestyles.
Do people like this still really exist? I know we all have choices but at times in my life when I have mixed in more affluent circles in university and London, men would spot gold diggers and women who would need to be financially supported a mile off and would not contemplate taking them seriously. I dont know any women who havent have some kind of career or any men that want someone who hasnt worked.
is there anyone bringing up their daughters(or sons) like this in this day and age? would you bankroll them if it all went wrong? just curious.

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Spencerfig · 11/07/2022 21:24

Just read Pippa & James have welcomed another baby girl! Lovely news! Wonder what they will call her, their other children are Grace & Arthur so I imagine it will be something traditional

JellyBellyNelly · 11/07/2022 21:28

Insertcreativenamehere · 11/07/2022 19:43

I think Catherine and William are truly suited and most definitely in love. It’s not in anyway a marriage of convenience/trophy wife/ gold digger woman - just a really great match.

Hear hear!

SheepingStandingUp · 11/07/2022 21:29

Exactly. Whatever excitement she might have felt at being the single hot sister the tabloids loved, she's settled down into generic wife, Mom, sister is pretty famous so I get cool seats at Wimbledon.
. I'm curious about the three kids status symbol comments Tho. Surely in those circles EVERYONE can afford three kids.

So if you're v rich 3 is a status symbol, if your low income 3 is irresponsible - based on general MN stuff. Presumably 3 for the MC is just bad for the environment

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SheepingStandingUp · 11/07/2022 21:32

Spencerfig · 11/07/2022 21:24

Just read Pippa & James have welcomed another baby girl! Lovely news! Wonder what they will call her, their other children are Grace & Arthur so I imagine it will be something traditional

So will that cure Katie's broodiness or send it into overdrive!

TreePoser · 11/07/2022 21:35

Jane after his mother, or Eve because it fits in. (guesses!)

Spencerfig · 11/07/2022 21:56

I'm thinking Caroline or Carolina after her mum!

Spencerfig · 11/07/2022 21:58

TreePoser · 11/07/2022 21:35

Jane after his mother, or Eve because it fits in. (guesses!)

Her other girl already has Jane as middle name she's Grace Elizabeth Jane

ivorthengine · 11/07/2022 21:59

Pippa is no different to any of the made in chelsea types who are
famous for being famous

her in laws vogue williams and spencer

Perhaps pip can get a job advertising laundry tabs too

SheepingStandingUp · 11/07/2022 22:28

ivorthengine · 11/07/2022 21:59

Pippa is no different to any of the made in chelsea types who are
famous for being famous

her in laws vogue williams and spencer

Perhaps pip can get a job advertising laundry tabs too

Except it isn't really her fault her sister married someone really famous and that made her famous by association. Entirely different to living your life on telly. She's barely in the press, and when she is it's for doing something ordinary like taking the baby for a walk

StartupRepair · 11/07/2022 22:34

I think the asset that Kate brought to William's life was having a close and stable family which he had not experienced. Don't think that can be faked.

TheWheeledAvenger · 11/07/2022 23:41

They were already loaded in school, their dad has a major trustful and their mum is massively successful. The idea that they stood out as "nouveau riche" makes my eyes roll.

That's just made up. They were comfortable by middle class standards but never wealthy, and certainly not even on the same planet as the aristo set the girls hung out with. The dad had a trust fund, yes (though likely not that big since it had to be shared between all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren) and Party Pieces is a small business run out of a single barn with a small handful of employees, that has struggled financially (financial information via Companies House is public record).

If Michael had such a huge trust fund and comes from inherited wealth, how come they lived in a tiny flat in Slough working as a pilot and air stewardess? They lived in an ordinary modest house in a rural area until well after Will and Kate got married, people who are "seriously loaded" don't live like that. Proper rich people have multiple houses, and their houses are enormous.

I've literally never even heard any claim about them being super loaded before this thread.

Honeysuckle9 · 11/07/2022 23:43

@TheWheeledAvenger Then where does their lifestyle come from - from private school fees to holidays to manor houses

TheWheeledAvenger · 12/07/2022 00:03

There's a difference between comfortable and super wealthy. Clearly they were comfortable.

Plenty of people manage to send their kids to private school. Probably paid for via a combination of the trust fund, other family support, their earnings which as a pilot was probably pretty decent, income from Party Pieces, and scrimping and saving. I don't think a 5-bed house is anything out of the ordinary for a family with 3 kids, and they stayed in that house till after Will and Kate got married. The Middleton kids had to work summer jobs, they didn't drive the same kinds of fancy cars or live in the same expensive post-uni accommodation as most of their peers. Yes unfortunately that would have stood out in those circles, where extreme wealth and generational wealth tied up in land is common.

The gulf between comfortable middle class and the truly rich is staggering once you see it up close.

nouveau riche

The whole nouveau riche thing in general is just snobbery, but those circles are very snobbish. That's the world they chose to pursue. Does anyone really think the aristo/public school crowd would consider the daughters of a pilot and a former air hostess who was raised in a council house and sold decorations out of her kitchen to be anything other than nouveau riche? Look what a big deal the press made about it. Do you think the press are more snobby than the aristo crowd?

Spencerfig · 12/07/2022 00:14

TheWheeledAvenger · 11/07/2022 23:41

They were already loaded in school, their dad has a major trustful and their mum is massively successful. The idea that they stood out as "nouveau riche" makes my eyes roll.

That's just made up. They were comfortable by middle class standards but never wealthy, and certainly not even on the same planet as the aristo set the girls hung out with. The dad had a trust fund, yes (though likely not that big since it had to be shared between all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren) and Party Pieces is a small business run out of a single barn with a small handful of employees, that has struggled financially (financial information via Companies House is public record).

If Michael had such a huge trust fund and comes from inherited wealth, how come they lived in a tiny flat in Slough working as a pilot and air stewardess? They lived in an ordinary modest house in a rural area until well after Will and Kate got married, people who are "seriously loaded" don't live like that. Proper rich people have multiple houses, and their houses are enormous.

I've literally never even heard any claim about them being super loaded before this thread.

Do you know what you're talking about?!!
They bought a flat for Kate & Pippa when they moved to London when they were young... That's mega wealth to me not "modest" like you're making out!

EssexSerpent · 12/07/2022 00:37

There are some really unpleasant posters
on here that show women are every bit as bad as men with regards to judging females.

I’d hazard a guess no one on this thread knows either of them well, in which case this is all
speculative nonsense.

From what I see in the press at least which is all any of us can really judge, Carole & Michael (?) have a lovely family. They appear hardworking and have raised 3 nice fully functioning children which frankly is more that her Maj has done (no offence Ma’am). I wouldn’t want Kate’s job for all the money in England but I like respect her and have nothing bad to say about Pippa either. Why would I.

Leave them alone.

Mercyovermerit · 12/07/2022 07:50

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 10/07/2022 08:03

Catherine sent a lovely letter to my friends parents after he died this year, they were at school together. So I love her just for that.

My mum seemed to think that when I was planning to go to uni (to study nursing) it was with the sole intention of meeting a nice Dr/student Dr. Hmm

This made me tear up , for some reason. That’s really kind of her & I hope the parents are keeping strong. Bless them.

user1468761869 · 12/07/2022 07:58

William wanted someone meek and not prominent so she fits the bill. ( Probably why he can't stand Meghan) Her role takes back woman's rights 50 years: judged mostly by her appearance and the price of her clothes. Personally, I would hate her life. Living in a gilded cage with a vacuous mind.

Walkaround · 12/07/2022 08:03

There’s nothing whatsoever to show she has a “vacuous mind.” As for women’s rights, what does her husband do that is any different from what she does?

Spencerfig · 12/07/2022 08:05

user1468761869 · 12/07/2022 07:58

William wanted someone meek and not prominent so she fits the bill. ( Probably why he can't stand Meghan) Her role takes back woman's rights 50 years: judged mostly by her appearance and the price of her clothes. Personally, I would hate her life. Living in a gilded cage with a vacuous mind.

I don't know Kate or her family but I very much doubt she is meek, she plays her role as future queen extremely well. She is demure not meek. She has a very strong successful mother as her role model I'm sure the Kate behind closer doors is very different.

derxa · 12/07/2022 08:36

user1468761869 · 12/07/2022 07:58

William wanted someone meek and not prominent so she fits the bill. ( Probably why he can't stand Meghan) Her role takes back woman's rights 50 years: judged mostly by her appearance and the price of her clothes. Personally, I would hate her life. Living in a gilded cage with a vacuous mind.

I wonder how many posters will rise to the bait😆

Shallistayorshalligo · 12/07/2022 08:43

rocketfromthecrypt · 10/07/2022 08:03

I'd kill for Pippa's life. I don't think she does have a job or that she's on Mat leave. She's fabulously wealthy and has nothing to do but work out, go on holiday and waft around her giant houses. I couldn't be arsed with Kate's life, not because she works hard (she absolutely doesn't - she'd fall apart if she had to do a proper 40 hour week) but because she has no space for spontaneity.

This😁

PlntLady · 12/07/2022 09:00

I loved in Canada for a while and went to uni over there. I remember a conversation with my group of Canadian female friends about what they were hoping to do after uni when I started. All of them told me they had gone to uni to meet the best man they could and intended to have children and become a house wife.
I also dated a few men while I was at uni. It didnt work with any of them - the key reason being that they wanted a house wife in their future and couldn't se a future for us where I went out to work even 3/4 days a week.
It's just a different way of living. I see your point but consider that there are also men out there who want their wife at home and not working. If it works for both parties then what's the harm. 🤷‍♀️

Islandgirl68 · 12/07/2022 09:11

Nothing wrong with being a SAHM, best job I ever did. May not have a degree or a fancy job, but so glad I was one. Time flies by and now 16 and 19 and so glad I was there spending time with them. And had plenty professional mums that worked partime to be with their kids and once older went back full time. Mum's from all walks of life are full time or part time SAHM. My DD says she is glad I stayed home with her. It is actually a job you just don't get paid for it.

MsTSwift · 12/07/2022 09:36

I had a degree and a top job it was bloody hard work I loved being a sahm for 6 years looking back it was the best decision I ever made.

JellyBellyNelly · 12/07/2022 09:48

TheWheeledAvenger · 11/07/2022 23:41

They were already loaded in school, their dad has a major trustful and their mum is massively successful. The idea that they stood out as "nouveau riche" makes my eyes roll.

That's just made up. They were comfortable by middle class standards but never wealthy, and certainly not even on the same planet as the aristo set the girls hung out with. The dad had a trust fund, yes (though likely not that big since it had to be shared between all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren) and Party Pieces is a small business run out of a single barn with a small handful of employees, that has struggled financially (financial information via Companies House is public record).

If Michael had such a huge trust fund and comes from inherited wealth, how come they lived in a tiny flat in Slough working as a pilot and air stewardess? They lived in an ordinary modest house in a rural area until well after Will and Kate got married, people who are "seriously loaded" don't live like that. Proper rich people have multiple houses, and their houses are enormous.

I've literally never even heard any claim about them being super loaded before this thread.

Michael Middleton wasn’t a pilot. He worked in operations and was probably on his way to being very senior management in BA.