Kate and Pippa Middleton

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I'm reading about Pippa's new £15 million home and another pregnancy. I am sure both sisters are lovely people but looking at their lives, it seems like neither ever had any intention of working and used school and university to get themselves mixing in affluent circles to bag a wealthy man to fund their lifestyles.
Do people like this still really exist? I know we all have choices but at times in my life when I have mixed in more affluent circles in university and London, men would spot gold diggers and women who would need to be financially supported a mile off and would not contemplate taking them seriously. I dont know any women who havent have some kind of career or any men that want someone who hasnt worked.
is there anyone bringing up their daughters(or sons) like this in this day and age? would you bankroll them if it all went wrong? just curious.

‘Bagging’! Jesus Christ. So much misogyny I don’t even know where to start.
This idea thar CM is a scheming manipulative social climber, using her daughters to further her own ends is completely baseless and just gossip.
The desperation of some people on this thread to see Kate as setting out to entrap William with her wicked wiles is really quite pathetic . Perhaps she actually loved him. Is that so hard to believe?

But I like being able to do something stupid. Or just hang out with my mates doing a middle of the day pub crawl, leave the house dressed in whatever I grab, have my kids have a meltdown without it being across the newspapers etc.

Gilded cages still hold you in.

She gets the best designers,nannies,chefs and gardeners.
But she still had to ask the Queen permission on her choice of kids names.
Imagine that thread on MN😂

I think i would just take my chances in the real world,than live in a fishbowl like her.

I wouldn't marry a royal for love or money, but that's the life Kate has pursued with steely dedication since she was a teenager. She stalked William across two continents and two universities, and hung in for grim life through ten years of being stalked and smeared by the press, William dumping her and chasing him to try to get back together. She decided her goal was the ring and the crown and never wavered from it.

As for George, Will and Kate don't have to pimp their kids out so aggressively. Feels like barely a week goes without the Cambridges either releasing photos, releasing videos like the recent baking one, or taking one or more of the kids to do a public engagement. Any time they have bad press or certain other royals are in the news, they trot out the kids. They've chosen to put the kids in the public eye so much so young. They could easily have chosen to let them have more privacy and instead introduce the children to the public eye and get them used to doing public engagements more slowly and when older.

omg, what nonsense, they moved in swish circles and are FAR better looking than average. They were never going to marry broke fat blokes who work in woodies.
Oh come on, the Middletons were a very ordinary middle class family, not super wealthy or well-connected, who sent their kids to a posh school. Most girls from that background end up married to solicitors or doctors, not the future King. The only reason they're wealthy and connected is because they chased royals and aristos so relentlessly and ignored all the years of jibes about being clingers and social climbers.

Perhaps she actually loved him. Is that so hard to believe?

Not at all. Nowhere is it mentioned that she didn't/doesn't love him. True love can co-exist with a well-defined plan to marry someone, wealthy or otherwise. I assume that she does love him and she seems happy.

And, I don’t see misogyny but reality. I wish feminists would tell young women that there's a reason that work is called work, that it is incredibly hard and will likely destroy both physical and mental health. This is especially true if you are doing it on top of domestic or caring responsibilities, as most women do. So, plan your life accordingly. It's the advice I would have liked to hear - from a feminist.

My kids take lessons. They are older than George and would not be excited by watching live.
Kate was photographed wiping perspiration from the boy's face. It did not look like he was having fun.

She stalked William across two continents and two universities, and hung in for grim life through ten years of being stalked and smeared by the press, William dumping her and chasing him to try to get back together.

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You know he was always going to marry someone, right? And that if anyone was ever in a position to pick and choose, it would be the young and handsome future King?

I don't think this is right at all... Those circles they moved in are ridiculous to try to break into.. The girls obviously had something that got them in money, they had similar pursuits, were very sporty & outdoorsy so they fitted in... They didn't get in by stalking the upper class & aristocrats who would have spotted them & ghosted them a mile off.

And these men had no choice in the matter, I'd that right? They were hopelessly and stickily ensnared into the powerful web the Middleton girls (and their parents) wove, which was planned before conception. Bwah ha ha ha.

Misogyny from women about other women. You know some of the absolute crap on here about the Middletons is so offensive and ridiculous. There are men in that family but no, it's all about CM a woman, scheming. Utterly disgusting and fantasising.

As I mentioned upthread the UK is full of pushy, ambitious & aspirational parents..Carole & Michael are no different. I think they are wonderful, supportive parents & grandparents.
I would have loved if my parents had been ambition & had aspirations for me but they never wanted us to get above our station unfortunately & I grew up with an inferiority complex which I still have.

The sad thing is that some idiot will trot out comments from the above post as fact.

Where is the evidence of Kate's 'steely dedication' to pursuing William as teenager? Not gossip, fact.

Is it scheming or planning? In Western countries, we only seem to accept as valid a marriage model that is based on falling in love immediately with “The One”. However, our high divorce rate suggests that the happily ever after that supposedly follows may be quite elusive.

Men ‘scheme’ as well to get a nice life, just in different ways. For example, politicians the world over use politics for exactly this purpose but I have seen few threads on how the Clintons, the Obamas, the Blairs, the Camerons, and, soon to follow, the Johnsons, will use politics to rake in millions. Women have historically been limited by patriarchy in their activities such as owning property and earning their own money, so what else could they do? Trouble is, now that those restriction are removed, many are realising that the work that buys that nice life will likely destroy them first. There are no easy answers, but, in my view, work loses every time.

She stalked William across two continents and two universities, and hung in for grim life through ten years of being stalked and smeared by the press, William dumping her and chasing him to try to get back together

Your mind is like a chess pit.

Cess pit. Obviously.

Why can't people understand the Middletons were extremely wealthy folk & therefore had a very good lifestyle enabling them socialise with like minded folk?
I have never really come accross any articles which say the girls & James were bad mannered, rude or anything of the like... Carole was ridiculed for being too perfect at one school in that the kids were always immaculately turned out, beautifully presented picnics on sports days & brand new kit & equipment for sports... If that's the worst that can be said there can't be too much wrong with them!
Kate had to leave Downe House due to bullying....

Why can't people understand the Middletons were extremely wealthy folk & therefore had a very good lifestyle enabling them socialise with like minded folk?

Because they're jealous they had no chance of marrying William and there remains this idea that nobody who wasn't born titled should have any right to either. MN is class obsessed.

He was always going to get married and have kids. It's his job and literally the reason he was born. He was trying to modernise the RF a bit, relatively speaking. Obviously he was never going to marry anyone THAT far from nobility.

Kate is good at the job and they seem happy together. If he is bonking that Marchioness or whoever she is, that doesn't seem to be a problem for either of them.

The beers were flowing last night I think!

In my defense I’m rather unwell with Covid.

This is the bottom line. He was freer than most to make his choice and i think he made a good one. I think she is a strong, warm person.

I don’t know, the mental gymnastics and convoluted thought process might make chess appropriate

If he is and they are "both happy with it" I have lost any respect for Kate Middleton and the OP has a point. I'd rather LTB as is so often said, than put up with this so I can call myself a Duchess. Even if my children are in line to the throne. No, no, no.

Would you really though? I mean come on there’s plenty of women that won’t walk away from a three bedroom semi in Wolverhampton when her childrens father is screwing somebody else never mind look what happened to poor Sarah Ferguson when she took a stand against the behaviour allegedly.

Not really. It’s just what all the tabloids were saying at the time. Doesn’t necessarily make it true of course but hardly required a huge leap of imagination or a cess pit mind to report what’s already been said many times.