Kate and Pippa Middleton

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I'm reading about Pippa's new £15 million home and another pregnancy. I am sure both sisters are lovely people but looking at their lives, it seems like neither ever had any intention of working and used school and university to get themselves mixing in affluent circles to bag a wealthy man to fund their lifestyles.
Do people like this still really exist? I know we all have choices but at times in my life when I have mixed in more affluent circles in university and London, men would spot gold diggers and women who would need to be financially supported a mile off and would not contemplate taking them seriously. I dont know any women who havent have some kind of career or any men that want someone who hasnt worked.
is there anyone bringing up their daughters(or sons) like this in this day and age? would you bankroll them if it all went wrong? just curious.

You are quite right. I should have been more specific about being influenced by the feminism that encourages women to be financially independent by working outside of the home. There are other feminisms that focus on different issues and some are clearly very important. Some, though, are not the solution that we expected.

Agree.

I should have been more specific about being influenced by the feminism that encourages women to be financially independent by working outside of the home.

Yes, so much better for women to be dependent on a man for food and a roof over their heads.

That's what I thought too once. Turns out, you can have a professional persona, self-esteem, a confident identity, your own money, an adoring husband, lovely children, all the food, gym sessions and holidays you want without having to work.

You are right. It’s better to work 37 hours a week, do the majority of the housework, do the majority of the childcare, organise children’s clothes, appts, school requirements, school absences, and try to progress in a job to avoid being left behind by younger colleagues who don’t have so many of these commitments.

A supportive network is the most important thing for a woman.

You are right. It’s better to work 37 hours a week, do the majority of the housework, do the majority of the childcare, organise children’s clothes, appts, school requirements, school absences, and try to progress in a job to avoid being left behind by younger colleagues who don’t have so many of these commitments.

If you're married to such a lazy and inconsiderate man then yes, definitely better not to make yourself and your children completely dependent on him.

That's what I thought too once. Turns out, you can have a professional persona, self-esteem, a confident identity, your own money, an adoring husband, lovely children, all the food, gym sessions and holidays you want without having to work.

That's only true for a tiny percentage of the population.

And what if your 'adoring husband' decides he doesn't adore you anymore?

Chelsey only worked as a lawyer for a few years before jacking it all in to sell jewellery or something

@luckylavender Pippa has just done a Masters. As for Kate, she may have pots of money but being in the public goldfish bowl like she is, having every single move analysed wouldn't be for me. This is a horrible thread actually. Let's bash women.

Yes, in exchange of being financially and socially set up for life she has to dress pretty in expensive clothes, smile to the camera and not do anything stupid. What a tough life innit?

@WisteriaLodge - I was around then too and there was certainly no talk of Diana being a commoner because she wasn't. She was a bona fide aristocrat. She grew up on the Sandringham estate. The marriage was practically arranged.

I think it is hard actually in some ways and in a different way from many other people. No financial pressures obviously. But a life of constantly being on your guard, not trusting anyone, knowing your children will always be security risks.

Agree 💯 and no, I wasn't confusing being 'common' with being 'a commoner'.

Diana may not have been royal but no one ever doubted the Spencers' aristocratic credentials.

Your life is really not your own. I watched poor little George in a suit on a sheltering day having to sit through a tennis match today. Both parents must be so tense that he will pull a face/yawn/complain whatever. I would be a wreck.

I have to say I felt sorry for George today.

I don’t know what possessed them to have him dressed in a suit today.

Was the roof open or shut?
There is an article in the telegraph which says it is adjusted to keep the sun out. I can’t read it as I don’t subscribe.
I do know that when it’s closed there is Air con/climate control to stop it turning into a hot house.

Suit, tie & shirt is the dress code.

How many children his age would enjoy such an event?Never mind in a suit.

I saw someone comment re George’s attire on a different thread that it may well be how he associates behaving like Prince George rather behaving like George the child. I thought that was very astute.

That's exactly how it happened. I always thought that Carole's genius lay in her ability to understand the male psyche and gender stereotypes. She worked out that men, when all is said and done, aren't actually that fussed about who their girlfriend is or mind that much being shuffled around by them (as long as they don't push boundaries). She knew that if she placed her pleasant-in-appearance-and-behaviour daughter in front of William for a length of time, he'd grow to appreciate the value in being with a demure, nice, smiling, supportive girlfriend. It worked. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kate and Pippa had extensive coaching from Carole. It doesn't just happen, this bagging a rich man. Feminism did quite a number on many of us <sigh>.

omg, what nonsense, they moved in swish circles and are FAR better looking than average. They were never going to marry broke fat blokes who work in woodies.

Not that it really matters, but I don't think the Middleton sisters are exceptionally attractive. Kate maybe, but a lot of that is down to being tall and thin, with access to the best designers, hairdressers, make up artists and so on.

I would put Pippa at only slightly above average in terms of looks.

Well Diana was nothing special and you constantly hailed is the most beautiful woman in the world I’m a lot more attractive to be honest

What the hell am I reading.

The usual shite.

My friends son is taking tennis lessons, I'd imagine he'd love to see it live esp with a good atmosphere and all the excitement of doing something the sibs are too young for. He's two years younger than George. It isn't impossible that kids enjoy sports